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13 hours ago, Stu4Lee said:

It's all very well folk here getting on their high horse giving their opinion on how it reads, that it couldn't be clearer, that there should be no confusion reading it, what it should be, what they think it should be or whatever. 

They can post what they like here, the fact is opinion is not what counts, as can be seen from the actual real life experiences of some posters.

 

 

Yes I like bold italic lol

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17 hours ago, Stu4Lee said:

It's all very well folk here getting on their high horse giving their opinion on how it reads, that it couldn't be clearer, that there should be no confusion reading it, what it should be, what they think it should be or whatever. 

They can post what they like here, the fact is opinion is not what counts, as can be seen from the actual real life experiences of some posters.

 

 

Yes I like bold italic lol

I think @bolin786 is missing the real point of concern that most people have with regards to the 1 year extension. 

 

It matters not if you have correctly interpreted the expiry date based on the wording of the letter. What matters most is the grief you will experience, if someone who holds your fate in his/her hands does not agree with your interpretation of it. 


If you want to undergo an exercise in frustration; try convincing the person at the DMV that the expiry date of the extension is 1 year from the issue date of the actual GC when he has already made up his mind that rather, it is 1 year from the issuance of the NOA 1 letter. (been there, done that, got the t-shirt). 

 

Something being ambiguous doesn't mean that you can't read it and not figure out the correct interpretation the first time. Indeed you can, but if it is ambiguous, another person can read that exact same item and get a different interpretation of it. 

 

The fact that there seems to be widespread disagreement/uncertainty about this issue, by definition highlights its ambiguity....

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Neither the guidance nor the law itself make this expiry business clear. I thank my lucky stars that the last time I went to the BMV they mistakingly gave me a four year driving license which sees me 2½ years past the date of my ROC application. Hopefully that will be long enough for them to adjudicate my case - hopefully.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/Static_Files_Memoranda/Archives 1998-2008/2003/crextensn120203.pdf

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15 November 2013: Sent I-129F Package 

21 November 2013: NOA1 

20 December 2013: NOA2

23 January 2014: Medical (London)

11 April 2014: Interview - Approved!

29 April 2014: POE Chicago

20 June 2014: Married in DC

AOS

7 July 2014: Mailed AOSEAD & AP forms via USPS

14 July 2014: NOA1 Text & E-Mails (x3) received at 23:52hrs (Received Date: 07/11/2014)

14 July 2014: Cheque cashed & I-485 transferred to Nebraska Service Centre

18 July 2014: NOA1 hardcopy received (x3)

22 July 2014: Biometrics Letter rec'd (Appointment 07/31/2014)

23 July 2014: Early Biometrics walk-in at Cincinnati office successful!

05 September 2014: EAD & AP approved! (texts rec'd 16:45hrs)

11 September 2014: EAD/AP card mailed

12 September 2014: EAD/AP card in hand (delivered 9:54am)

18 October 2014: Potential interview waiver letter rec'd (Dated: 10/15/2014)

19 May 2015: I-485 approved! (No interview) Welcome letter mailed!

23 May 2015: I-797 (NOA2) Welcome notice received

27 May 2015: Green card received

 

ROC

ROC filing window opens 18 February 2017

16 February 2017: ROC packet mailed to CSC

18 February 2017: USPS Tracking - Ready for collection from PO Box

25 February 2017: NOA1 received dated 02/21/2017

03 March 2017: Received biometrics appointment letter dated 25th February 2017. Appointment on 16 March 2017.

16 March 2017: Biometrics completed

08 March 2018: Case (allegedly) transferred to the National Benefits Center (presumably for a combo interview)

04 April 2019: ROC approved (as part of N-400 combo interview)

N-400

18 February 2018: N-400 Application submitted online

21 February 2018: NOA1 Rreceived

23 February 2018: Biometrics appointment letter received. Appointment 13 March 2018. 

27 April 2018: Interview notice received. Interview Date: June 5, 2018. Request to reschedule sent as out of the country at that time.

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I hate that this issue exists. It's so unbelievably dumb. My husband (letter date: October 31, 2016) spoke to a Tier 2 USCIS agent today and was told that the new version of the letter doesn't apply to him, and that his letter means one year from the date on the letter. He wants to hear it directly from USCIS that it extends one year from the date on the green card, but that's not happening. This would be a moot point if we could actually schedule an appointment at our local USCIS office. But that is proving impossible. Stressful times.

USCIS (Priority date April 1, Approval April 17, no RFEs)

March 28, 2014: I-130 sent via FedEx from Bogotá to Chicago Lockbox

April 1, 2014: Delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 10:29 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by J. CHYBA (date confirmed by My Case Status)

April 4, 2014: NOA1 e-mail received at 12:17 a.m.; case accepted and routed to CSC for processing. Check cashed.

April 17, 2014: Changed mailing address with USCIS Tier 2 representative. He also confirmed that our case had arrived to the CSC and that our NOA1 date is April 3.

April 18, 2014: NOA2 e-mail received at 12:30 a.m. Case status online changed to post-decision activity; date of "last updated" changed to April 17. Change of address e-mail received at 3 a.m. Status changed back to initial review on e-mail and online. Date of "last updated" now April 18. Called and spoke to two Tier 2 reps; both were useless.

April 21, 2014: Approval confirmed verbally by Tier 2 rep. Order put in to send second NOA2 hard copy to new address. Instructed to ignore online case status.

April 25 or 26, 2014: NOA1 hard copy arrives to old apartment in Bogotá. Priority date actually April 1. (April 3 was the notice date.)

May 16: USCIS change of address e-mail received

May 19: USCIS e-mail received saying a duplicate notice was mailed on this date. Case status now set to "Acceptance."

May 22: NOA2 duplicate hard copy arrives to U.S. address

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​May 22, 2014: Case number and IIN assigned. Asked operator about our move from Colombia to Argentina and received instructions.

May 24, 2014: E-mails about embassy change/address change sent to nvcinquiry@state.gov at 4:36 p.m. NVC time

​June 3, 2014: Payment portal message "This case is in the process of termination" appears. DS-261 appears, submitted. E-mails received from NVC concerning case number and AOS bill.

June 4, 2014: AOS payment invoiced, paid; DS-261 received by NVC

June 6, 2014: AOS payment shows as PAID in payment portal

June 17, 2014: Response received from nvcinquiry@state.gov. "The correspondence submitted is currently under review. An appropriate action will be taken once this review is completed."

June 24, 2014: AOS package sent via FedEx overnight shipping from Houston to NVC

June 25, 2014: AOS package delivered at 9:43 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by F.FNU

July 1, 2014: AOS package scanned

July 18, 2014: Checked payment portal and saw: "CASE NUMBER CHANGE: The applicant's case number, [bGT#], has been changed to [bNS#]." Called and confirmed. Also said today marked 30 business days since NVC received DS-261; operator said she would have that reviewed and make IV payment available ASAP.

August 5: E-mail sent to nvcinquiry@state.gov concerning changing our embassy BACK to Bogotá at 6:41 p.m. NVC time

August 6: IV invoice e-mail FINALLY received at 2:13 a.m. NVC time

August 7: IV payment made available on payment portal; paid

August 8: IV payment shows as PAID in payment portal; DS-260 becomes available

August 14: Checklist received; errors on sponsor's I-864 form and on joint sponsor's I-864A

August 15: DS-260 submitted

August 29: Checklist response and IV package sent via FedEx ground from Houston to NVC

September 4: Checklist response and IV package delivered at 11:21 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by GPETERS

September 8: Checklist response and IV package scanned

September 10: DS-260 accepted; false checklist received

September 17: E-mail response received from asknvc@state.gov (30 business days/43 calendar days later): Correspondence under review

September 26: Embassy change approved; new case number assigned

October 30: CASE COMPLETE

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On 3/15/2017 at 6:08 PM, JohnE said:

My answer is it extends the green card by one year and the state of Georgia agrees with that.  The reason I say is when my wife received her one year extension letter she had to get her Georgia drivers license renewed. The drivers license office looked at her green card and the extension letter and gave her a new licence that expired one year from the green card expiration date.  

 

You could also try to call USCIS and get a tier 2 officer and ask them but watch out what answers you get on the phone.  From what I understand you can request the info pass within 30 days prior to the expired date of your extension letter.  We were just approved for ROC on 2/28/17 and were waiting for the green card.  The extension letter/green card expires on 4/2/17.  We were worried the ten year green card would not arrive prior to 4/2/17 and my wife's license was about to expire.  We had the info pass appointment yesterday and got the 551 stamp with zero problems.  Guess what the green card arrived today!

 

Just my two cents

God bless

John

 

 

JohnE,

 

Just wanted to ask a follow up question: did everything go smoothly at the DMV? do they accept that passport stamp as a proof of residency? My extension letter (and the driver's license) are soon to expire and I am getting nervous...

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3 hours ago, Amelie123 said:

JohnE,

 

Just wanted to ask a follow up question: did everything go smoothly at the DMV? do they accept that passport stamp as a proof of residency? My extension letter (and the driver's license) are soon to expire and I am getting nervous...

Yes. They accept the passport stamp as proof of residency. (Again, sometimes you may have a DMV officer who hasn't seen one, but a manager will have, so calmly explain that you need to speak to a manager.

It might not hurt to go online and print out a copy of the "accepted ID" for your state - It looks like you're in Georgia, so here's a link:

http://online.dds.ga.gov/SecureID/accepteddocs.aspx

 

Near the bottom of this page, it says :

First Immigration Document (For Proof of Identity) :
I-551 Stamp
 

Second Immigration Document (For Proof of Lawful Status) :
Unexpired Foreign Passport

 

This is proof that they're supposed to accept the passport stamp (I-551 stamp is the official name of that stamp) in your unexpired passport. If they try to give you a hard time, you can show them the list.

 

Is your timeline updated?


Oath Ceremony Dec 14th, 2018 I am finally a citizen and done with USCIS for good!

 

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa:                            

Marriage: 2013-08-05                                   I-130 Sent: 2013-10-07                                                 I-130 NOA1: 2013-10-09                               

I-130 transferred to VSC: 2014-03-12        I-130 NOA2: 2014-03-24                                              NVC Received: 2014-04-07 

Case Number and IIN: 2014-05-05             Sent ENROLL email for EP: 2014-05-06                    Gave email addresses to NVC: 2014-05-08             

DS261 submitted: 2014-05-09                    AOS invoiced and paid: 2014-05-12                           DS261 re-submitted - GRRRR! 2014-05-21               

ENROLL conf. email: 2014-06-05               Submitted AOS documents:2014-06-08                    IV fee email received: 2014-06-23 

IV fee available and paid: 2014-06-24       DS260  submitted: 2014-06-26                                   Case Complete: 2014-07-31                                       

Interview: 2014-09-19 APPROVED!!!          Visa in Hand: 2014-09-24 (Loomis depot)                POE (Pac Hwy Crossing, BC) 2014-11-08 

SSN Card arrived (approx) 2014-11-26     Green Card arrived (approx) 2014-12-17 

Removal of Conditions - I-751:

I-751 Mailed (USPS) Aug 10, 2016             NOA: August 17, 2016 (received Aug 23)                  Biometrics Letter Sent: Sept 23, 2016

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: Sept 30, 2016     Walk-In Biometrics Oct 6, 2016                                    Infopass for I-551 stamp Aug 17, 2017   

Service Request: Dec 27, 2017                   SR Response: Jan 10, 2018 (no prediction)              Senator Inquiry: Jan 5, 2018

Senator Resp: Jan 8, 2018 (60 days)         Service Request 2: Mar 8 2018                                   Senator Inquiry 2: Mar 9 2018

SR 2 Response: Mar 12 (security checks) Senator Response 2: Mar 13, 2018                            Approval (via phone!): Mar 14, 2018

New Green Card Arrived: Mar 22, 2018

Naturalization - N-400: 

Submitted N-400 Online: Feb 4, 2018       Denied for Payment Failure: Feb 8, 2018                     Resubmitted N-400 Online Feb 8, 2018

NOA: Feb 8, 2018                                          Biometrics: Feb 26, 2018                                                Interview: Nov 2,2018 (approved)

Oath: Dec 14, 2018

 

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On 11/14/2017 at 3:10 PM, Glenn79 said:

My question to all here is, if its taking 15 months to get the roc card and the letter last's for only 1 year. Do we apply for another extension? I know as of August 2017 Cali is processing the roc forms from on or before July 15 2016.

They won't send another extension automatically, so what you do is make an Infopass appointment at your "local USCIS office" and get an I-551 stamp in your passport. That will serve as a new, temporary green card for as long as they choose to give you... usually another year, but different local offices seem to have their own rules sometimes. I've heard of 6mo and even 3mo (which is ridiculous, if you ask me, but there's no way to argue it).

 

Is your timeline updated?


Oath Ceremony Dec 14th, 2018 I am finally a citizen and done with USCIS for good!

 

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa:                            

Marriage: 2013-08-05                                   I-130 Sent: 2013-10-07                                                 I-130 NOA1: 2013-10-09                               

I-130 transferred to VSC: 2014-03-12        I-130 NOA2: 2014-03-24                                              NVC Received: 2014-04-07 

Case Number and IIN: 2014-05-05             Sent ENROLL email for EP: 2014-05-06                    Gave email addresses to NVC: 2014-05-08             

DS261 submitted: 2014-05-09                    AOS invoiced and paid: 2014-05-12                           DS261 re-submitted - GRRRR! 2014-05-21               

ENROLL conf. email: 2014-06-05               Submitted AOS documents:2014-06-08                    IV fee email received: 2014-06-23 

IV fee available and paid: 2014-06-24       DS260  submitted: 2014-06-26                                   Case Complete: 2014-07-31                                       

Interview: 2014-09-19 APPROVED!!!          Visa in Hand: 2014-09-24 (Loomis depot)                POE (Pac Hwy Crossing, BC) 2014-11-08 

SSN Card arrived (approx) 2014-11-26     Green Card arrived (approx) 2014-12-17 

Removal of Conditions - I-751:

I-751 Mailed (USPS) Aug 10, 2016             NOA: August 17, 2016 (received Aug 23)                  Biometrics Letter Sent: Sept 23, 2016

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: Sept 30, 2016     Walk-In Biometrics Oct 6, 2016                                    Infopass for I-551 stamp Aug 17, 2017   

Service Request: Dec 27, 2017                   SR Response: Jan 10, 2018 (no prediction)              Senator Inquiry: Jan 5, 2018

Senator Resp: Jan 8, 2018 (60 days)         Service Request 2: Mar 8 2018                                   Senator Inquiry 2: Mar 9 2018

SR 2 Response: Mar 12 (security checks) Senator Response 2: Mar 13, 2018                            Approval (via phone!): Mar 14, 2018

New Green Card Arrived: Mar 22, 2018

Naturalization - N-400: 

Submitted N-400 Online: Feb 4, 2018       Denied for Payment Failure: Feb 8, 2018                     Resubmitted N-400 Online Feb 8, 2018

NOA: Feb 8, 2018                                          Biometrics: Feb 26, 2018                                                Interview: Nov 2,2018 (approved)

Oath: Dec 14, 2018

 

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6 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

Yes. They accept the passport stamp as proof of residency. (Again, sometimes you may have a DMV officer who hasn't seen one, but a manager will have, so calmly explain that you need to speak to a manager.

It might not hurt to go online and print out a copy of the "accepted ID" for your state - It looks like you're in Georgia, so here's a link:

http://online.dds.ga.gov/SecureID/accepteddocs.aspx

 

Near the bottom of this page, it says :

First Immigration Document (For Proof of Identity) :
I-551 Stamp
 

Second Immigration Document (For Proof of Lawful Status) :
Unexpired Foreign Passport

 

This is proof that they're supposed to accept the passport stamp (I-551 stamp is the official name of that stamp) in your unexpired passport. If they try to give you a hard time, you can show them the list.

Thank you so much for such a thorough response,  NIghtingalejules!! Will definitely do that!

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Hi guys, 

 

I just wanted to share with you my experience I had with a phone call to USCIS regarding my 1 Year letter of Extension of my 2 Year Greencard. 

 

As I suspected the Agent told me that the Date when the Greencard expires matters

I called because I'm leaving the country for a little while and if I come back before the Greencard Extension expires I can get back into the country 

without a problem. Ignore the Receipt Date of the 1 Year Extension Letter that just tells you when the Letter was written!

 

The Agent also told me to get a I-551 Stamp when I'm back and before my Extension for my Greencard expires . 

 

I read all the comments so far and as many before me already confirmed The Date that counts is the one on the Greencard regarding the Extension!

(Greencard expire date + 1 Year) 

 

I understand people very well that are nervous about that subject (I've been there myself) and sometimes you have to hear it again and again until you believe it. 

 

If you still have doubts just call them 800 375 5283. 

 

I hope that helps and good luck to you all! 

 

Chris 

 

 

 

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