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Wouldn't be surprise if some were approved as refugee to get into the US, but don't like what's going on and traveling to Canada to claim asylum. If that's the case, it's a strange situation to get approved as a refugee to the US only to go to Canada to filing asylum claim against the US.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Difficult to tell exactly what is going on, sadly the days of reporters actually reporting seems a long time ago.

 

Obviously Trump is a factor and I have seen mention of people who have been denied Asylum in the US and facing deportation.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Just now, Umka36 said:

Wouldn't be surprise if some were approved as refugee to get into the US, but don't like what's going on and traveling to Canada to claim asylum. If that's the case, it's a stranger situation to get approved as a refugee to the US only to go to Canada to filing asylum claim against the US.

Not possible due to the SCTA: http://www.asylumist.com/2016/03/31/asylum-in-canada-is-not-for-everyone-sorry-aboot-that/

 

unless they meet one of the guidelines

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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1 minute ago, Transborderwife said:

Not possible due to the SCTA: http://www.asylumist.com/2016/03/31/asylum-in-canada-is-not-for-everyone-sorry-aboot-that/

 

unless they meet one of the guidelines

I believe that only applies for those seeking entry at a PoE.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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4 minutes ago, Transborderwife said:

That part I'm unsure of.  However usually in the cases we have seen so far, they're caught and brought to a POE to make their claim.

By then they have entered so a different situation, that is why the focus is on unofficial crossing points, much easier otherwise to go to a regular PoE.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Other Country: Canada
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Just now, Umka36 said:

Well going to be a hard/futile lesson for those who try then.

Indeed.

 

Canada has made it very hard for illegal immigrants in general.  It's virtually impossible to work without a social insurance number, many employers now require seeing the physical card or paper before granting employment.  Healthcare doesn't come free to everyone either and health cards must be presented in most places at every visit.  Especially in metropolitan areas.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/13/axing-canada-us-refugee-agreement-would-open-floodgates

 

This article covers the agreement and why they have to cross at an undocumented crossing.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Asylum-seekers flee US border patrol for Canada: 'Nobody cares about us'

Eight people, including four children, barely made it across the Canadian border as US border patrol tried to stop them and a photographer captured the scene

 
 
A man who claimed to be from Sudan runs for the border after taking his family’s passports from a US border patrol officer.
 A man who claimed to be from Sudan runs for the border after taking his family’s passports from a US border patrol officer. Photograph: Christinne Muschi/Reuters
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Reuters

Saturday 18 February 2017 16.34 GMT

Eight asylum-seekers, including four children, barely made it across the Canadian border on Friday as a US border patrol officer tried to stop them and a Reuters photographer captured the scene.

As a US Customs and Border Patrol officer seized their passports and questioned a man in the front passenger seat of a taxi that had pulled up to the border in Champlain, New York, four adults and four young children fled the cab and ran to Royal Canadian Mounted Police on the other side.

One by one they scrambled across the snowy gully separating the two countries. RCMP officers watching from the other side helped them up, lifting the younger children and asking a woman, who leaned on her fellow passenger as she walked, if she needed medical care.

The children looked back from where they had come as the US officer held the first man, saying his papers needed to be verified.

The man turned to a pile of belongings and heaved pieces of luggage two at a time into the gully – enormous wheeled suitcases, plastic shopping bags, a black backpack.

“Nobody cares about us,” he told journalists. He said they were all from Sudan and had been living and working in Delaware for two years.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers assist a child from a family that claimed to be from Sudan as they walk across the US-Canada border.
 Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers assist a child from a family that claimed to be from Sudan as they walk across the US-Canada border. Photograph: Christinne Muschi/Reuters

The RCMP declined on Friday to confirm the nationalities of the people. A Reuters photo showed that at least one of their passports was Sudanese.

The man then appeared to grab their passports from the US officer before making a run for the border. The officer yelled and gave chase but stopped at the border marker. Canadian police took hold of the man’s arm as he crossed.

The border patrol officer told his counterpart that the man was in the United States illegally and that he would have detained him.

Officers on both sides momentarily eyed the luggage strewn in the snow before the US officer took it, and a walker left on the road, to the border line.

The RCMP carried the articles to their vehicles, and the people piled in to be driven to a nearby border office to be interviewed by police and to make a refugee claim.

People seeking refugee status have been pouring over the Canada-US border as the United States looks to tighten its policies on refugees and illegal immigrants. Asylum-seekers sneak across because even if they are caught, they can make a claim in Canada; if they make a claim at a border crossing, they are turned away.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Asylum-seekers flee US border patrol for Canada: 'Nobody cares about us'

Eight people, including four children, barely made it across the Canadian border as US border patrol tried to stop them and a photographer captured the scene

 
 
A man who claimed to be from Sudan runs for the border after taking his family’s passports from a US border patrol officer.
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Saturday 18 February 2017 16.34 GMT

Eight asylum-seekers, including four children, barely made it across the Canadian border on Friday as a US border patrol officer tried to stop them and a Reuters photographer captured the scene.

As a US Customs and Border Patrol officer seized their passports and questioned a man in the front passenger seat of a taxi that had pulled up to the border in Champlain, New York, four adults and four young children fled the cab and ran to Royal Canadian Mounted Police on the other side.

One by one they scrambled across the snowy gully separating the two countries. RCMP officers watching from the other side helped them up, lifting the younger children and asking a woman, who leaned on her fellow passenger as she walked, if she needed medical care.

The children looked back from where they had come as the US officer held the first man, saying his papers needed to be verified.

The man turned to a pile of belongings and heaved pieces of luggage two at a time into the gully – enormous wheeled suitcases, plastic shopping bags, a black backpack.

“Nobody cares about us,” he told journalists. He said they were all from Sudan and had been living and working in Delaware for two years.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers assist a child from a family that claimed to be from Sudan as they walk across the US-Canada border.
 Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers assist a child from a family that claimed to be from Sudan as they walk across the US-Canada border. Photograph: Christinne Muschi/Reuters

The RCMP declined on Friday to confirm the nationalities of the people. A Reuters photo showed that at least one of their passports was Sudanese.

The man then appeared to grab their passports from the US officer before making a run for the border. The officer yelled and gave chase but stopped at the border marker. Canadian police took hold of the man’s arm as he crossed.

The border patrol officer told his counterpart that the man was in the United States illegally and that he would have detained him.

Officers on both sides momentarily eyed the luggage strewn in the snow before the US officer took it, and a walker left on the road, to the border line.

The RCMP carried the articles to their vehicles, and the people piled in to be driven to a nearby border office to be interviewed by police and to make a refugee claim.

People seeking refugee status have been pouring over the Canada-US border as the United States looks to tighten its policies on refugees and illegal immigrants. Asylum-seekers sneak across because even if they are caught, they can make a claim in Canada; if they make a claim at a border crossing, they are turned away.

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Self-deportation might solve a lot of primary and secondary issues.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 

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