2,000 men reportedly sexually assaulted 1,200 German women

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German authorities reportedly believe that more than 1,200 women were sexually assaulted across the country on New Year’s Eve and that more than 2,000 men were allegedly involved.

The German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung and other German broadcasters published a leaked police document Sunday that shed some light on the details surrounding the mass sex crimes, according to The Washington Post. Authorities believe that at least 600 of the sex assaults occurred in Cologne and 400 occurred in Hamburg.

Only 120 suspects, most of them foreign nationals, have been identified in the mass sex crimes. The Post reported that a 21-year-old Iraqi man and a 26-year-old Algerian man were given suspended one-year sentences. A court spokesman said both men arrived in Germany within the last two years.

One official told the German paper that the mass sex crimes were a result of the refugee crisis.

"There is a connection between the emergence of this phenomenon and the rapid migration in 2015," Holger Münch, president of the German Federal Crime Police Office, said.

He also said he doesn’t think most of the suspected attackers will ever be convicted. The Post noted that Germany doesn’t have a lot of CCTV cameras installed in its major cities.

"We have to presume that many of those crimes will never be fully investigated,” Münch added.

Last week, German lawmakers passed a bill that will make it easier for victims of sex crimes to file criminal complaints if they rejected their attacker’s advances with a clear “no.”

German law previously required victims to show that they physically resisted attack before charges for rape and other sexual assaults could be brought. Women's rights campaigners argued that Germany's failure to recognize the principle of "no means no" was one of the main reasons for low reporting and conviction rates for rape in the country.

According to figures cited by Heiko Maas, the country's justice minister, only one in 10 rapes in Germany is reported and just 8 percent of rape trials result in convictions.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/11/more-than-2000-men-reportedly-sexually-assaulted-1200-german-women-on-new-years-eve.html

What did the German officials expect to happen? The officials knew full well what type of culture many of these refugees came from!

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Trump has in the past read the analogy of "the woman and the snake". Fits perfectly.

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Germany's crime rate, particularly violent crime, is far lower than in the United States. The U.S. murder rate, for example, is nearly six times higher than Germany's, according to the most recent report by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

Government data show that despite a 440 percent increase in migrants, crime among that group only increased by 79 percent last year.

We found out that the German government has repeatedly studied the question of crime and migrants.

According to the Bundeskriminalamt, also known as the Federal Criminal Police Office or BKA, crimes by immigrants rose 79 percent in 2015.

But at the same time, the number of refugees in the country rose more than fivefold — by 440 percent.

In other words, the typical German was more likely to engage in crime than the average migrant.

Not only that, the BKA found that the increase was in the first half of 2015. The rate then leveled off during the second half of the year, the period with the greatest influx of refugees, according to the German broadcaster Deutsche Welle.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-germany-now-riddled-crime-thanks/

Citing the latest findings from Germany's Federal Criminal Police Agency (BKA), on Wednesday the newspaper "Bild" reported that between 2014 and 2015, the number of crimes committed by refugees increased by 79 percent. Over the same period, however, the number of refugees in Germany increased by 440 percent.

The classified BKA report found that the "vast majority of asylum-seekers [commit] no offenses." Although the number of offenses initially increased significantly in the first half of 2015, the number of crimes in the second half of the year stagnated, the document added. It was in the second half of 2015, however, that most refugees arrived in Germany.

http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugee-related-crimes-in-germany-increase-less-than-influx-of-asylum-seekers/a-19053227

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Edited July 12, 2016 by ExPatty

[ExPatty 502]

But why bother with the real world? Fox News much better plays to your preconceived notions. Believe me.

In other words, whoever wrote that and subsequently bolded it doesn't understand statistics. Those are not comparing the same thing. Not only are immigrants and refugees not the same thing, but the comparison is meaningless even if they were because it mentions no baseline. I assume there is one, but politifact and dw.com link both fail to include it.

If I have 100 units of something in 2013, in 2014 I increase that amount by 1 unit, and in 2015 I increase it by 440% as much as the year prior, i.e. I now have 105.4 total units, but some behavior of those units went up by 79% from 2014 to 2015, I've had a total unit increase of less than 5% in a year, but the behavior increased by 79%.

Isn't math fun? And useful, believe me.

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In other words, whoever wrote that and subsequently bolded it doesn't understand statistics.

in other words "Fox News much better plays to your preconceived notions. Believe me."

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in other words "Fox News much better plays to your preconceived notions. Believe me."

You not understanding a post with numbers in it, how unprecedented.

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In other words, whoever wrote that and subsequently bolded it doesn't understand statistics. Those are not comparing the same thing. Not only are immigrants and refugees not the same thing, but the comparison is meaningless even if they were because it mentions no baseline. I assume there is one, but politifact and dw.com link both fail to include it.

If I have 100 units of something in 2013, in 2014 I increase that amount by 1 unit, and in 2015 I increase it by 440% as much as the year prior, i.e. I now have 105.4 total units, but some behavior of those units went up by 79% from 2014 to 2015, I've had a total unit increase of less than 5% in a year, but the behavior increased by 79%.

Isn't math fun? And useful, believe me.

The bolded line you speak of doesn't mention "immigrants". It speaks of "migrants" and that would be the proper term to discuss those that arrived in Germany last year. There may have been some that are not looking to be recognized as refugees but that some would be a negligible minority. In this context, migrants, immigrants and refugees are pretty much representing the same thing. Using the terms migrant, immigrant and refugee interchangeably may or may not be good writing or reporting. But it doesn't change the matter discussed: The fact that a huge increase in arrivals of migrants in Germany did not cause a similar spike of crimes committed by migrants.

That baseline you're looking for is rather easily derived from the quoted 2015 figure of refugees arriving in Germany: 1.1 million. In order for that to represent a 440% increase of the refugee population of the previous year, there must have been 250 thousand refugees in Germany the year prior. Now, total crimes committed by refugees in 2015 was quoted as roughly 210k. There were 92k (79%) more in 2015 than 2014 leaving you with a 2014 baseline of 118k. It's all in there. For a someone that thinks math is so much fun and so useful, it wouldn't seem to hard to do these little calculations. But hey, I am here to help.

You should probably stick with Fox News. Reading and processing real news isn't your cup of tea. Donald counts on folks like you. Believe me.

Edited July 12, 2016 by John Miller

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The bolded line you speak of doesn't mention "immigrants". It speaks of "migrants" and that would be the proper term to discuss those that arrived in Germany last year. There may have been some that are not looking to be recognized as refugees but that some would be a negligible minority. In this context, migrants, immigrants and refugees are pretty much representing the same thing. Using the terms migrant, immigrant and refugee interchangeably may or may not be good writing or reporting. But it doesn't change the matter discussed: The fact that a huge increase in arrivals of migrants in Germany did not cause a similar spike of crimes committed by migrants.

That baseline you're looking for is rather easily derived from the quoted 2015 figure of refugees arriving in Germany: 1.1 million. In order for that to represent a 440% increase of the refugee population of the previous year, there must have been 250 thousand refugees in Germany the year prior. Now, total crimes committed by refugees in 2015 was quoted as roughly 210k. There were 92k (79%) more in 2015 than 2014 leaving you with a 2014 baseline of 118k. It's all in there. For a someone that thinks math is so much fun and so useful, it wouldn't seem to hard to do these little calculations. But hey, I am here to help.

You should probably stick with Fox News. Reading and processing real news isn't your cup of tea. Donald counts on folks like you. Believe me.

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They're propelling his ticket. Believe me.