Lawyers are a waiste of time and money!

[Chrystal and Joe 0]

Hello all,

We are going through this process with a lawyer and he is not helpful at all! My address in Canada has changed since we started the process and I sent many emails to our lawyer about the change and he just said that we don't need to deal with it at that time, so I held off and quite frankly forgot about it for a while. But now he said that I have to wait to be contacted by the USC in Toronto before we move on with our next step (we have received our NOA2 after months and months wait) becuase they will send me the appropriate information to move on. So then I got thinking to myself...I bet my lawyer never did anything for the change of address...and guess what, after I contacted him again about it I learned that, of course, nothing has been done.

So he told me to contact the USC in Toronto and find out what I'm supposed to do. Does anybody know where I can get the information to contact them? And what I'm supposed to do?

In the end, I would not recommend getting a lawyer...ours was worthless and we paid a pretty penny for him!

If anyone was reading my posts yesterday about trouble in paradise with my fiance...thank you for all of you help and advice...Joe and I are going to talk again tonight and hopefully we can start on working on something that we are both happy with.

Thanks,

Chrystal

[zyggy 9]

Hello all,

We are going through this process with a lawyer and he is not helpful at all! My address in Canada has changed since we started the process and I sent many emails to our lawyer about the change and he just said that we don't need to deal with it at that time, so I held off and quite frankly forgot about it for a while. But now he said that I have to wait to be contacted by the USC in Toronto before we move on with our next step (we have received our NOA2 after months and months wait) becuase they will send me the appropriate information to move on. So then I got thinking to myself...I bet my lawyer never did anything for the change of address...and guess what, after I contacted him again about it I learned that, of course, nothing has been done.

So he told me to contact the USC in Toronto and find out what I'm supposed to do. Does anybody know where I can get the information to contact them? And what I'm supposed to do?

In the end, I would not recommend getting a lawyer...ours was worthless and we paid a pretty penny for him!

If anyone was reading my posts yesterday about trouble in paradise with my fiance...thank you for all of you help and advice...Joe and I are going to talk again tonight and hopefully we can start on working on something that we are both happy with.

Thanks,

Chrystal

Whether or not one needs a lawyer is a function of the complexity of the specific case and of the comfort level of the petitioner to be able to educate themselves in the forms and bureaucracy associated with the process.

Also, any lawyer worth his salt would know that the immigrant visa process doesn't go through Toronto at all... All Immigrant visa issues are processed at the US Consulate in Montreal...

You need to find out the State Department Case number by calling the NVC in New Hampshire. After you get the NVC Case number, you can either call the Consulate in Montreal or email them at Montreal-IV-DV@state.gov

Edited January 31, 2006 by zyggy

[rosyanne 0]

Sorry to hear that man. Some people using a lawyer just so they feel better. Persoanlly, I think you can do whatever you are paying for them to do for ya.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Dude, your lawyer sucks. Report him to the board for negligence, or at the very least, for being a fukcing idiot.

[pri 0]

well the USC in toronto does not handle any K visas and you could wait forever toronto will never call you your best bet is to find out whether NVC has your case# their Tel# 603 334 0700

[Canuck Carrie 1]

Contact Montreal directly

514-398-9695 Press 6 Ext #3833 (between 2:00 & 4:30 eastern time)

Montreal-IV-DV@state.gov

[EmersonsFoot 0]

We were paranoid and used one too. Great for easing the jitters at first, but after he received our payment his helpfulness and availability dropped right off the map. To some extent it was worth it, since at least during the very long wait we could be fairly certain all the i's had been dotted and the t's crossed on our forms. Still, we had an almost unbelievable lack of professionalism from him once we ceased to be a cash flow.

[Peter Miami 0]

That is why zyggy is correct for basic functions; like fill out forms, mailing documents, gathering information from their client, etc, they suck most of the time because this is not what they study for, that is their thinking. They just like the easy money part of it. Where they shine if they somewhat value their jobs is in courts, litigations, problem solving, etc. This is not right but it is how it is. No one is going to put time and effort that the actual people involve in it, unless you are paying six figures.

There are knowledgeable VJ members that can help you with almost every part of the process.

Good luck,

Peter Miami

[diadromous mermaid 36]

That is why zyggy is correct for basic functions; like fill out forms, mailing documents, gathering information from their client, etc, they suck most of the time because this is not what they study for, that is their thinking. They just like the easy money part of it. Where they shine if they somewhat value their jobs is in courts, litigations, problem solving, etc. This is not right but it is how it is. No one is going to put time and effort that the actual people involve in it, unless you are paying six figures.

There are knowledgeable VJ members that can help you with almost every part of the process.

Good luck,

Peter Miami

I liken immigration attorneys to physicians or surgeons. Most are very well educated, most are well-informed, many are superb, but all are only as good as the information they receive and the time they afford each case. Some are overworked, some don't keep abreast of changes due to that or to not having a compelling need to keep abreast. For every 100 surgeons that save a life, there's one buffoon that leaves a pair of forceps inside a patient. It's just a fact of life and the demands of the profession, unfortunately. The best thing to do if engaging an attorney is to advise him/her right off the bat that you will be checking in and wanting to know what, why and how. It'll keep him/her on his feet and you'll feel like you have some control in the process.

[ufkenmill 0]

PLEEEEASE do NOT ever liken an attorney for a surgeon. A surgeon must study very difficult pre-med material in undergrad where a lawyer can major in gymnastics and still get into law school. Law school is just reading and evaluating, med school is much more difficult that law school by far! A lawyer is nowhere NEAR as competent as a surgeon...

That is why zyggy is correct for basic functions; like fill out forms, mailing documents, gathering information from their client, etc, they suck most of the time because this is not what they study for, that is their thinking. They just like the easy money part of it. Where they shine if they somewhat value their jobs is in courts, litigations, problem solving, etc. This is not right but it is how it is. No one is going to put time and effort that the actual people involve in it, unless you are paying six figures.

There are knowledgeable VJ members that can help you with almost every part of the process.

Good luck,

Peter Miami

I liken immigration attorneys to physicians or surgeons. Most are very well educated, most are well-informed, many are superb, but all are only as good as the information they receive and the time they afford each case. Some are overworked, some don't keep abreast of changes due to that or to not having a compelling need to keep abreast. For every 100 surgeons that save a life, there's one buffoon that leaves a pair of forceps inside a patient. It's just a fact of life and the demands of the profession, unfortunately. The best thing to do if engaging an attorney is to advise him/her right off the bat that you will be checking in and wanting to know what, why and how. It'll keep him/her on his feet and you'll feel like you have some control in the process.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

PLEEEEASE do NOT ever liken an attorney for a surgeon. A surgeon must study very difficult pre-med material in undergrad where a lawyer can major in gymnastics and still get into law school. Law school is just reading and evaluating, med school is much more difficult that law school by far! A lawyer is nowhere NEAR as competent as a surgeon...

I wasn't comparing them, I was saying that in both disciplines you get the thorough and the not so thorough. Not to mention the fact that fellow JDs might consider your summary of their preparation a little less than complimentary.