Expired F1 Visa - Now applying for K1 Visa

[dwarfer 10]

Hi all,

New to the forum, but not to USA visas!

Briefly; my fiance and I have been officially dating for about 5.5 years and have known each other for 7 years. He's a US Citizen by birth, I'm an Australian citizen. I met him while taking some extended travel in the USA in 2008 on a B2 visa.

We visited each other a couple of times after that, and then I came to the USA on an F1 visa to study. I wanted to study overseas anyway, and it also gave us a great opportunity to spend time together to see if our relationship would work out.

I lived in the USA (with him) from Aug 2010 to Aug 2014. The first 3 years of that time, I was a full-time student, and the last year I was on OPT. With the OPT, I received a temporary SSN and Employment Authorization Card (With A-number). Those two documents have expired as of June 2014.

I left the USA within 60 days after the expiration of my EAC and have just come back to the USA on the visa waiver to visit my fiance. It's our first time seeing each other since I left, 18 months ago.

We're getting ready to submit a Fiance Petition (I-129f). I'm filling out the form and it asks for my SSN and A-number (if I have one). I can't find any information to say whether I should add those because I have had them (even though they're expired), or whether I should only add them if they're currently valid.

I'm going to put a copy of the two cards in with my application, and have an explanation of our whole situation including my previous visas.

I'm thinking I should add them even though they're expired?

Anyone else had this situation and have any recommendations? I can't find any advice about this.

I might call USCIS on Monday otherwise.

Thanks all for your help.

[Lainie B 465]

Your SSN was not temporary and it hasn't expired. It's your number for life and you should write it on the form. When you get to the US you'll be able to use the same number again. When you get your EAD or green card, you'll use that number for work.

If you've had an A-number in the past then yes you should write it on the form.

I doubt you'll get any useful information by calling USCIS, they are more likely to give you the wrong information.

[rutabaga 209]

I'm in a similar situation (F1 w/ OPT so both a SSN and an A number) only I'm in the CR1 visa process -- I second what the poster above said, put down those numbers as you do have them (and your SSN does not expire and if you emigrate to the US, you will use the same SSN). Some say that you'll get a new A number, but I'd still input the one you already have to any form that asks for it. Good luck with the visa process!

[dwheels76 5,486]

Hi all,

New to the forum, but not to USA visas!

Briefly; my fiance and I have been officially dating for about 5.5 years and have known each other for 7 years. He's a US Citizen by birth, I'm an Australian citizen. I met him while taking some extended travel in the USA in 2008 on a B2 visa.

We visited each other a couple of times after that, and then I came to the USA on an F1 visa to study. I wanted to study overseas anyway, and it also gave us a great opportunity to spend time together to see if our relationship would work out.

I lived in the USA (with him) from Aug 2010 to Aug 2014. The first 3 years of that time, I was a full-time student, and the last year I was on OPT. With the OPT, I received a temporary SSN and Employment Authorization Card (With A-number). Those two documents have expired as of June 2014.

I left the USA within 60 days after the expiration of my EAC and have just come back to the USA on the visa waiver to visit my fiance. It's our first time seeing each other since I left, 18 months ago.

We're getting ready to submit a Fiance Petition (I-129f). I'm filling out the form and it asks for my SSN and A-number (if I have one). I can't find any information to say whether I should add those because I have had them (even though they're expired), or whether I should only add them if they're currently valid.

I'm going to put a copy of the two cards in with my application, and have an explanation of our whole situation including my previous visas.

I'm thinking I should add them even though they're expired?

Anyone else had this situation and have any recommendations? I can't find any advice about this.

I might call USCIS on Monday otherwise.

Thanks all for your help.

So you are filing the I-129F. But are you just visiting now to the US or you are living here with your fiance'?

The SSN and A# are yours for life. No need to take photocopies of it and explain a whole lot of things that may raise other questions and issues.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,438]

If you are in the US right now, you could get married & file for AOS...

[dwarfer 10]

So you are filing the I-129F. But are you just visiting now to the US or you are living here with your fiance'?

The SSN and A# are yours for life. No need to take photocopies of it and explain a whole lot of things that may raise other questions and issues.

I thought that they were "mine for life", I just wasn't sure if I should list them now or now.

Thanks to everyone for your really quick replies and advice.

If you are in the US right now, you could get married & file for AOS...

Yeah - I am in the US at the moment...but, I'm here on the Visa Waiver, and don't want to mess around with trying to do an AOS, in case they reject it...also - I have to go home. I have a good job, and can't just leave my life at home behind like that - I'd burn too many bridges.

Besides...we want to do this the "right way", and a K1 seems to be the best option for us right now.....

Also - regarding my fiance's birth certificate - he has a certified copy of his birth certificate. I'm looking at ordering a copy from the California Dept of Health, but they only give certified copies - you can't order an original. Do I send a certified copy (sent form DoH) with our application, or can I send a photocopy of his current certified copy?

Thanks again to everyone for your help and advice.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,438]

I thought that they were "mine for life", I just wasn't sure if I should list them now or now.

Thanks to everyone for your really quick replies and advice.

Yeah - I am in the US at the moment...but, I'm here on the Visa Waiver, and don't want to mess around with trying to do an AOS, in case they reject it...also - I have to go home. I have a good job, and can't just leave my life at home behind like that - I'd burn too many bridges.

Besides...we want to do this the "right way", and a K1 seems to be the best option for us right now.....

Also - regarding my fiance's birth certificate - he has a certified copy of his birth certificate. I'm looking at ordering a copy from the California Dept of Health, but they only give certified copies - you can't order an original. Do I send a certified copy (sent form DoH) with our application, or can I send a photocopy of his current certified copy?

Thanks again to everyone for your help and advice.

I understand, whatever feels better. You had no intent to AOS when you crossed the border though, so you'd have no problems AOSing, within 60-90 days you could get an AP & travel back while your application is processing. I AOSed from VWP without problems, it's perfectly legal as long as it was not planned that way. I am a citizen since and had no problems whatsoever during the various immigration processes.