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Licensed jobs opening up for "undocumented" immigrants in California

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Honestly, it almost makes me wonder what's the point of legal immigration if "undocumented" immigrants are allowed most of the privileges of being a legal immigrant!!??


A variety of licensed jobs – including architect, barber, boxer and accountant – soon will be open to undocumented immigrants in California.

The shift figures to change lives for tens of thousands of workers, either in the form of new opportunity or, critics say, in the form of a new wave of unfair competition.

Under SB1159, a law signed in September by Gov. Jerry Brown, all 40 licensing boards working under the California Department of Consumer Affairs must consider applicants regardless of their immigration status. Previously, only legal residents with Social Security numbers could be granted licenses.

The new rule is kicking in at various agencies now and will roll out to all licensed jobs by the start of next year. The boards for eight job categories – accountants, architects, barbers and beauticians, boxers and martial arts fighters, financial advisers, geologists, land surveyors, osteopaths and podiatrists – are already accepting undocumented applicants.

It’s unclear how many people have applied for licenses under the new rules, or how many will, but the impact could be huge. The Public Policy Institute of California estimates the state is home to about 1.85 million undocumented workers.

Critics say the new rules benefit people who, in their view, shouldn’t be hired for any job because of their undocumented status.

“It’s yet another tedious way for California politicians to whittle away the rule of law,” said Bob Dane, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington, D.C.-based group that advocates better border security and stopping illegal immigration.

California’s new law, he added, means American workers “are going to face even more stiff competition.”

The new rules figure to change some businesses more than others. Undocumented workers are disproportionally represented in a few industries in California, including farming, restaurant work and transportation. Most aren’t licensed.

But beauticians are licensed and, collectively, salons in California harbor what many describe as “the great secret,” referring to the high number of undocumented immigrants who cut and style hair.

For stylist Rosie Hernandez, getting a license could lead to more personal and professional stability.

Hernandez recently has been working at her Lake Elsinore home because she believed working in a salon meant a greater risk of getting caught working without a license.

Early in her career, the 31-year-old jumped from one beauty salon to the next to avoid being caught by state board officials during inspections.

“I was working with fear … to be working on a client’s hair and thinking that midway I’d have to leave,” Hernandez said in Spanish.

The same goes for Maria Isabel Montano, 45, a Stanton resident, who said she has had to run when state officials inspected a beauty salon where she was working. She also was afraid of others telling on her.

Soon after learning of the new law, Hernandez and Montano signed on for apprenticeship classes at Cosmetica Latina in Downey. Using their federal tax identification numbers instead of Social Security numbers, both women now have apprentice licenses.

“I can work in peace, every day,” Montano said in Spanish.

Maria Teresa Villarreal operates Cosmetica Latina and offers an apprenticeship program for working hairdressers, letting people work and study for a license at the same time.

Villarreal has operated the Spanish-language program for years, catering to people who could legally get licensed.

In February, her school got the go-ahead to begin accepting undocumented students. She said her new students come from throughout Southern California, often after they’ve been fined for working without a license, a penalty of up to $1,000.

“We’re going to help the economy grow in this country, but by complying with the law,” Villarreal said.

Not everyone agrees.

Dane, of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said the move to make licenses open to undocumented workers will “diminish” licensing standards.

He added that licensing boards exist to maintain the integrity of respected professions and that the new law is “counterproductive to maintaining the high standards” of the jobs connected to the state boards.

But to Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, who initiated the law, allowing skilled immigrant workers to obtain professional licenses will strengthen the state’s workforce and economy.

“This is about doing right by those individuals who have studied, sacrificed and mastered their professions, but are unable to practice because of their immigration status,” said Lara.

“We won't waste their talent any longer.”



17 February 2004 Sent I-129F petition CSC - It was APPROVED in 147 days



4 January 2005 - Submitted applications for AOS and EAD - 12 May 2005 Conditional Permanent Residency Approved - interview in Santa Ana

4 June 2005 CPR 2-year Green Card arrives in mail


8 May 2007 - I-751 sent to CSC - 23 August 2007 - Approved - Card production ordered

30 August 2007 - 10 year Green Card received

K2 TIMELINE (Stayed behind in UK to finish school)

28 March 2005 - embassy interview & medical London - visa granted

01/18/06 Applications for AOS/EAD sent - 03/28/06 EAD approved

4/3/06 - RFE for AOS - requested new medical and vacc supplement

4/26/06 - approved without interview and welcome letter sent

05/02/2006 - Greencard arrives in mail

03/14/08 - Petition to Remove Conditions mailed to CSC delivered - 7/2/08 APPROVED


April 18, 2011 - N-400 Applications Mailed to AZ lockbox

April 21 (received April 25) NOAs

May 12 - FP Letters mailed

May 16 - Received FP appointment letters for June 8 at 11am

August 1 - Interview - approved for Oath Ceremony - OATH CEREMONY 28 SEPTEMBER

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immigrant worker here = illegal alien. sheesh.

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*** Thread moved from Off Topic forum to the Current Events forum. ***

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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It's just a great state! You can get a driver's license and soon families will be able to get free medical care through MediCal. On top of the free education, the food programs for children born here of illegals. Just great! And, you can also get a license to practice law if you're illegal. And, if you're illegal, you don't have a social (that belongs to you at least!) so you don't have pay taxes. Is it a wonder that state year after year faces financial hurdles?

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You reap what you sow! Just another method for libs to collect taxes and fees from anyone or anything that might ever generate a profit.

Education is what you get from reading the small print. Experience is what you get from not reading it.

The Liberal mind is where logic goes to die!

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