Has CEHST become a thinly disguised hate forum?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

If you look at a stat like percentage of black people in jail verses white people and then come to the conclusion the reason for this has to do with some aspect of black culture or failing of the black community in general, who can you not be racist? Does drawing a line between single mother families in the black community make you a racist? Some people are looking for answers that point to a systemic failure within the community as opposed to an imposed failure on that community. If you think problems in the black community are their fault, you're racist. If you think it's outside factors, you're reverse racism or some nonsense.

Racism as a label is a lot like a hitler reference. It gets thrown out way too often and usually makes no sense in the given context.

That being said, yeah some folks are straight up racist.

So if you don't think all the problems of the black community are the result of racism you are a racist.

Well folks there you have it. Sad

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I agree with you. But if I posted nothing but these topics everyday for years, what would you think about me? Would you think I had an agenda? Or was I just posting for good discussion?

Suppose I posted an article about Filipina prostitutes everyday for 6 months, what would the group think about that? Or green card seeking RUB women? Or every negative story I could find about Chinese people? Not directed at you personally, just throwing it out there.

But oddly those who post 90% of stories in the other direction get a free pass

[spookyturtle 9,465]

So if you don't think all the problems of the black community are the result of racism you are a racist.

Well folks there you have it. Sad

Blaming all of the problems in the black community on racism is delusional too. At some point in life most people are responsible for their actions and behavior.

[GandD 5,966]

So if you don't think all the problems of the black community are the result of racism you are a racist.

Well folks there you have it. Sad

That's not what I said. I'm just commenting on how hard it is to not be called a racist when you believe the problems come within. I don't think the argument makes you inherently racist. Racism (to me) comes from thinking someone is inferior to another based on their skin. Not blaming one another for the problems at hand.

Eta. Or lumping everyone of the same race into one group. It's dismissive.

Edited April 28, 2015 by GandD

[spookyturtle 9,465]

But oddly those who post 90% of stories in the other direction get a free pass

What type of stories are you referring to? Just so I can follow correctly.

[X Factor 1,110]

But yet I see post after post calling people names, who disagree with many of you. Alluding to what would happen to them if the visited your neighborhood. Making masturbation jokes about them. Ridiculing their intelligence, making inbreed jokes.

Then you people have the unmitigated Gaul to start a thread about hate speech.

Right on point

[spookyturtle 9,465]

That's not what I said. I'm just commenting on how hard it is to not be called a racist when you believe the problems come within. I don't think the argument makes you inherently racist. Racism (to me) comes from thinking someone is inferior to another based on their skin. Not blaming one another for the problems at hand.

I don't think someone is a racist for saying that the problems come from within the community. But if they say it everyday and talk about nothing else, it does make me wonder.

[GandD 5,966]

But oddly those who post 90% of stories in the other direction get a free pass

No one gets a free pass. There's always a dissenting voice in any thread started by any "side"

I don't think someone is a racist for saying that the problems come from within the community. But if they say it everyday and talk about nothing else, it does make me wonder.

I dunno, I feel like that's more of an anger thing. There's a lot of anger here. I think most of these stories are just anger outlets.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

No one gets a free pass. There's always a dissenting voice in any thread started by any "side"

I dunno, I feel like that's more of an anger thing. There's a lot of anger here. I think most of these stories are just anger outlets.

I think a lot if people are angry who don't post like broken records. Why the agenda for some?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Well, it isn't so much that they come here to express their racist views that I find particularly puzzling, it's that they have such views to begin with. It doesn't make sens to me that someone who is so anti-foreigner, pro-white, anti-immigration, etc turns around and marries such a person belonging to a group they hate so much. Sure, if one is a white supremecist and marries a white person, no surprise there, but this? One thing that the hate forums and most of us would agree upon is the seemingly peculiarity of such a person.

Because they ONLY hate a certain group. Like I said, they can separate their hate by saying I only hate blacks, Muslims, Hispanics or the like. They don't have a problem with their wife's culture. One of these folks praises China like he's one of them but calls Japanese people slurs. Just because you marry outside your race, doesn't mean you're not a racist.

Hi Marvin, hope Hawaii is treating you well. I'm a bit jealous btw.

Having been accused of being a racist on this site in this very forum I'd like to comment on your comment. I'd like to highlight two things you said and then ask your opinion.

From the above:

a)"Those individuals who are married to Asian or other than white spouses can't join those other sites, lest their spouses and children become targets."

b)"At least here, you can make broad generalizations, which are basically racist insults wrapped up in different words,..."

Do you think that a) is a generalization? and if so could someone define your comment as racist?

I personally think that you are a good guy that feels the need to call out injustice when you see it and I think that's a good thing. But to be completely honest with you some of your comments lead me to believe that you feel only white folks can be racist. Now that I'm living in a country where I am in the minority I am seeing things from an aspect that is new to me. It's very obvious to me that racism isn't limited caucasians i'm just wondering if you have the same opinion.

Hey Operator. Good to hear from you. SInce you asked, I'd be happy to share my opinion with you.

Here's my thing. What bothers me is the people who are obsessed about black people and the like only want to discuss it as a negative aspect of our society. Like Teddy said, we hate when we hear black community because it's only used in the most negative of circumstances. Like the Baltimore riots, for example. Look at the comments, then go look at the pumpkin riots from last year. Completely different reaction. We all know why, but this is just one example. It's frustrating to hear day in and day out that we talk about race, only to have those same folks bring it up every single day. Yet if myself or Janelle point this out, we're in the wrong. What's even funnier? We get told we're just as bad if we make fun of those people talking about how we're destroying America or how our people amount to feces.

Racism can only be done by the majority of those in power. Anyone can be racist, but racism is the system in which people are oppressed. White people here are the majority, and in most positions of power. So in theory, you tend to get the blame. But I know that all white people aren't racist, not by a long shot. When I comment, I'm talking to those few people who make such bigoted comments, not anyone else. Unlike them, I have no issues calling them racist to their faces.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

But oddly those who post 90% of stories in the other direction get a free pass

What stories are you talking about? Because when I post anything that has a white perp, I'm being racist, even though there isn't a single racist angle to the story. It's like I can't post anything negative about white people or Christians because I'm being racist.

Blaming all of the problems in the black community on racism is delusional too. At some point in life most people are responsible for their actions and behavior.

Funny thing. Myself and Janelle have talked about the problems that come from within more than once. But when you have kids being killed for playing with toy guns or guys in Walmart being gunned down, who's responsible for that? Is that still the black community's fault?

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Funny thing. Myself and Janelle have talked about the problems that come from within more than once. But when you have kids being killed for playing with toy guns or guys in Walmart being gunned down, who's responsible for that? Is that still the black community's fault?

No, an innocent person being gunned down is not the communities fault. But I don't blame black on black crime on racism, IMO, a lot of that comes from within.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

No, an innocent person being gunned down is not the communities fault. But I don't blame black on black crime on racism, IMO, a lot of that comes from within.

And yet when it's a white person killing other white people, we don't call it white on white crime. Why is that?

[Boiler 43,438]

Less usual?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Less usual?

How many times does it have to happen?

Edited April 28, 2015 by Stay Woke