French MPs back ban on skinny catwalk models

[GandD 5,966]

And even that is so-so. There are marathon runners who are in incredible shape by every medical test--stress tests, etc--who are also obese.

Everyone one has a different rate of calorie burn. You can change yours slightly through years and years of exercise but like i said, only slightly. If you have a handle on how many calories you burn and adjust diet/exercise accordingly you can lose weigh. Dieters have a hard time because they just stop eating which leads to a decrease in metabolic activity. The real way to address weight gain is exercise and awareness of what you're burning verses taking in. As for marathoners, I have personally found more weight gain associated with longer distance running. It's weird I know because it's more calories. When I train for shorter distances at faster paces, I lean down. That has more to do with the body learning to pace it's caloric burn when under continual stress and then the usual carb up before and after races. Just look at the fastest runners, they're rails.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Everyone one has a different rate of calorie burn. You can change yours slightly through years and years of exercise but like i said, only slightly. If you have a handle on how many calories you burn and adjust diet/exercise accordingly you can lose weigh. Dieters have a hard time because they just stop eating which leads to a decrease in metabolic activity. The real way to address weight gain is exercise and awareness of what you're burning verses taking in. As for marathoners, I have personally found more weight gain associated with longer distance running. It's weird I know because it's more calories. When I train for shorter distances at faster paces, I lean down. That has more to do with the body learning to pace it's caloric burn when under continual stress and then the usual carb up before and after races. Just look at the fastest runners, they're rails.

I didn't say they were marathon winners--I said they were intensely fit and still obese marathon runners.

[GandD 5,966]

I didn't say they were marathon winners--I said they were intensely fit and still obese marathon runners.

Oh I know. Just saying when I transitioned from speed to distance work outs, I gained weight despite spending more calories per workout. And despite the caloric difference in 7 min mile and a 10 min mile being almost negligible. Granted I also took a far less strict approach to dieting this year due to the greater caloric expenditure over workouts. My point is, it's more normal for slow marathoners to carry extra weight than competitive 5kers. I assume because distance training pushes your body away from burning carbs or other quick energy sources.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Oh I know. Just saying when I transitioned from speed to distance work outs, I gained weight despite spending more calories per workout. And despite the caloric difference in 7 min mile and a 10 min mile being almost negligible. Granted I also took a far less strict approach to dieting this year due to the greater caloric expenditure over workouts. My point is, it's more normal for slow marathoners to carry extra weight than competitive 5kers. I assume because distance training pushes your body away from burning carbs or other quick energy sources.

Very probably. I'm not a metabolic expert, that's my wife (no really). When it comes to modelling and trying to enforce healthiness on models, though, obesity doesn't mean unhealthy, so body fat isn't a good measure of health for any model.

[GandD 5,966]

Very probably. I'm not a metabolic expert, that's my wife (no really). When it comes to modelling and trying to enforce healthiness on models, though, obesity doesn't mean unhealthy, so body fat isn't a good measure of health for any model.

Agreed.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Please stay on topic or this thread will be closed.

[unsmiley 111]

I am not for banning anyone, but if they're gonna selectively do it, I'd rather they ban the fatties.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

I am not for banning anyone, but if they're gonna selectively do it, I'd rather they ban the fatties.

Why would they need to? The modelling industry has already effectively done so. A 'plus size' model can be as small as a size 8 these days.

[Penguin_ie 5,986]

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[Janelle2002 3,865]

Exactly. There are so many things to take into account and honestly BMI is one of the cruddiest measures of health. Everyone has a metabolic rate that's their own and will, at ideal fitness, be a different size and shape. I happen to be incredibly twiggy. My younger sister, however, was a size 6-8 by the time she was thirteen--while playing soccer, being on a swim team and competing at figure skating. She was probably closer to a 8-10 by the time her high school rugby team dominated in the regionals. Girl bulks up, like most of my family. I'm the genetic fluke.

Health should be based on the capabilities of the models. Can they walk and run easily without getting winded? For models who can't walk, modify that--can they propel their wheelchairs if they're capable, for example? Let's see campaigns for healthy models, not ones for models of a specific size. Let's see a campaign for models to pass a fitness test of some kind--with the ability to bow out for documented health issues that preclude exercise or that would inhibit their movement--rather than saying 'you must be this big or bigger to play.'

The problem with the fashion industry has always been that they go for a uniform size that every model has to achieve. This will just make the industry pick a different uniform size, which means some girls will be binge eating to get bigger while others starve themselves to get smaller. It doesn't change a thing.

I understand that there are some women who are naturally small. But when you are starving yourself, becoming bulimic or anorexia that's a different story.

I am not for banning anyone, but if they're gonna selectively do it, I'd rather they ban the fatties.

And what is fat in your opinion?

[unsmiley 111]

And what is fat in your opinion?

It was intended as humorous, Janelle, lighten up!

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

I understand that there are some women who are naturally small. But when you are starving yourself, becoming bulimic or anorexia that's a different story.

Definitely. But you can have a 200 lb woman with bulimia or anorexia or you can have a 90 lb woman with bulimia or anorexia. Weight is entirely not a good indicator of health.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Reject the left. Tolerate skinny people.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

It was intended as humorous, Janelle, lighten up!

Are you saying I'm dark?

I'm joking.

Definitely. But you can have a 200 lb woman with bulimia or anorexia or you can have a 90 lb woman with bulimia or anorexia. Weight is entirely not a good indicator of health.

It is not a healthy indicator. This is true.

Reject the left. Tolerate skinny people.

Who said skinny people are being tolerated? You just interpret things in your own little bunker way don't you?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Are you saying I'm dark?

I'm joking.

It is not a healthy indicator. This is true.

Who said skinny people are being tolerated? You just interpret things in your own little bunker way don't you?

I think him or Lib forgot to change out the air filters....