Police street stops have soared in NYC, over 85% stopped are Black or Hispanic

[mawilson 2,133]

My sources are confidential but the numbers are correct.

So it is indeed pure bull$hit then. Thanks for playing.

If you say so, because of course you work for humint at Shin Bet.

Dumbass.

[Ban Hammer 14,280]

My sources are confidential but the numbers are correct.

So it is indeed pure bull$hit then. Thanks for playing.

If you say so, because of course you work for humint at Shin Bet.

Dumbass.

bet he/she thinks humint is something that happens in the summer near the coast

[DelcoCouple 1]

My sources are confidential but the numbers are correct.

So it is indeed pure bull$hit then. Thanks for playing.

If you say so, because of course you work for humint at Shin Bet.

Dumbass.

No I have never worked for an organisation that uses torture, flouts international law, or carries out state sponsored assassinations nor would I. -1/10 back to troll school for you . You really ought to stick to yahoo chat rooms if you cant play nice with the grown ups

[Heracles 417]

I wonder what is the race beak up of the top 25 crime ridden cities in the US... I know this is those hush hush statistics that no body, especially the media, in the US talks about without being labeled a racist..

Edited February 5, 2007 by Infidel

[Heracles 417]

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[Boiler 47,487]

Richard Reid according to the FBI using the aliases Tariq Raja (طارق راجا) and Abdel Rahim.

Father Jamaican, mother English.

[Heracles 417]

Well I did a bit of research and put the various cities latest figures together. Here are the results...

TOP 14 most dangerous cities in the US.

1. Camden, NJ - The racial makeup of the city was 16.84% White, 53.35% Black or African American
   
2. Detroit, MI - The racial makeup of the city was 81.55% African American, 12.26% of residents are White
   
3. Atlanta, GA - The racial makeup of the city is 61.39% Black, 33.22% White, 1.93% Asian
   
4. St. Louis, MO - The racial makeup of the city of St. Louis was 51.20% African American, 43.85% White
   
5. Gary, IN - The racial makeup of the city was 84.03% African American, 11.92% White
   
6. Washington, DC - The racial makeup of the city was 58.04% African American, 39.02% White
   
7. Hartford, CT - The racial makeup of the city was 17.72% White, 38.05% Black
   
8. New Orleans, LA - The racial makeup of the city was 67.25% African American, 28.05% White
   
9. Richmond, VA - The racial makeup of the city was 38.30% White, 57.19% African American
   
10. Birmingham, AL - The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White
    
11. Baltimore, MD - The racial makeup of the city was 64.34% Black or African American, 31.63% White
    
12. Richmond, CA - The racial makeup of the city was 21.36% white, 36.06% black or African American
    
13. Memphis, TN - The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White
    
14. Jackson, MS - The racial makeup of the city was 27.79% White or Caucasian, 70.64% Black or African American
    

Need I bother compiling any more.. What a bloody joke.. To the contrary, all of the safest cities in the US had a large white racial makeup.

And then you say DelcoCouple it is wrong to profile.. The Facts and Data speaks for itself.

Edited February 5, 2007 by Infidel

[DelcoCouple 1]

Oh dear you went to all that work for a poor troll and clearly do not understand the implications of what you are suggesting?

Your claim rests on the dubious notion that blacks commit far more crimes than whites. This is part fact and part fiction. According to annual FBI crime figures, more blacks are jailed for murder, robbery, and theft than whites. (It's rarely noted that the majority of serial killers, rapists, child molesters, bank robbers, hate crime perpetrators, and felony drunk drivers are white). Nearly half of the two million prisoners that now jam America's prisons are black. They are more likely to get stiffer sentences in state and federal courts than whites for petty crimes, and drug offenses. Despite a vague campaign promise by President Bush, and later repeated by Attorney General John to look at the drug sentencing laws, no one should hold their breath waiting for them to push Congress to change the laws.

But does this mean that blacks are more drug, crime and violence-prone than whites? Or, is it the case that blacks are more likely to be arrested and convicted for crimes than whites? And, once arrested are they far less likely to strike plea bargains, get summary probation, have their juvenile records sealed, and get referrals to drug diversion programs than whites? Also, numerous studies have shown that police officials saturate poor black neighborhoods with small armies of cops. This insures that more blacks will be stopped, searched, and arrested than whites, and further bumps up the arrest totals for blacks.

Three examples underscore how the quiet clamor for racial profiling fuels dangerous public misperceptions about blacks and crime:

1. Following a barrage of lawsuits, costly settlements, and the threat of Justice Department intervention, in April, 1999, then New Jersey Governor Christie Whitman publicly admitted that many New Jersey state troopers racially-profiled black and Latino motorists. But what escaped public attention was the revelation that the blacks stopped were less likely to carry drugs, weapons, and illegal contraband than the relative handful of whites stopped and searched.

2. San Diego police officials recently acknowledged that black and Latino motorists were three times more likely to be stopped by police than whites. Yet, police found no greater amount of contrabands on blacks than whites, and far less on Latinos than on whites.

3. A New York City undercover police unit gained national infamy when four of its officers gunned down African immigrant, Amadou Diallo, a man with no police record and engaged in no criminal activity. That same unit stopped and searched thousands of mostly young blacks and Latinos. Only about five percent of those stops resulted in arrests.

While racial profiling proves worthless in preventing black crime, oddly, it could have some racially-reverse value for police as a tool in the deeply flawed, racially-warped drug war. The profile of a typical drug user is not a poor black, or Latino, but a middle-income white, aged 12-25. They make up more than 75 to 80 percent of the drug users in America. The Justice Department's 1998 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse found that white students were four to five times more likely to sale and use marijuana, heroin, cocaine, (powdered and crack), LSD, PCP, and designer drug derivatives, such as "ecstasy," "mushrooms," "speed," and "ice," than blacks.

At the same time, legions of articles, news features, and TV specials are crammed with stories of high-profile white stars, starlets, and athletes who openly brag or cry about their drug escapades. And ala Robert Downey, Jr., they create oceans of public empathy for their heroic battles against addiction. Yet, the lop-sided drug use by young whites ignites no outcry for mass arrests, prosecutions, and tough prison sentences for them. It would be political suicide for any public official to dare suggest that police profile white drug users as a tactic to win the drug war. Yet many police officials have no compunction openly advocating, as the former New Jersey state police commissioner did in 1999, (at the cost of his job after mass black outrage), or privately defending the practice if used against blacks.

As absurd as it sounds, a fictional case can be made for cracking down on young whites traveling on our highways, and streets, based on a standard drug user profile. But it would not win even a mild skirmish in the nations unwinnable drug war. The drugs would still flow just as freely in the suburbs, on college campuses, and in chic offices as it does in the ghettoes. It would, however, criminalize a generation of young whites, further obliterate civil liberties protections, and create grotesque racial stereotypes about crime and criminals. In other words, it would do the exact same thing that racial profiling has done to a generation of young blacks.

So maybe you convinced me to support racial profiling after all and get some those nice safe white streets cleaned up of those undetected criminals

Of course that isn't what you really intended was it

[Boiler 47,487]

Well I did a bit of research and put the various cities latest figures together. Here are the results...

TOP 14 most dangerous cities in the US.

1. Camden, NJ - The racial makeup of the city was 16.84% White, 53.35% Black or African American
   
2. Detroit, MI - The racial makeup of the city was 81.55% African American, 12.26% of residents are White
   
3. Atlanta, GA - The racial makeup of the city is 61.39% Black, 33.22% White, 1.93% Asian
   
4. St. Louis, MO - The racial makeup of the city of St. Louis was 51.20% African American, 43.85% White
   
5. Gary, IN - The racial makeup of the city was 84.03% African American, 11.92% White
   
6. Washington, DC - The racial makeup of the city was 58.04% African American, 39.02% White
   
7. Hartford, CT - The racial makeup of the city was 17.72% White, 38.05% Black
   
8. New Orleans, LA - The racial makeup of the city was 67.25% African American, 28.05% White
   
9. Richmond, VA - The racial makeup of the city was 38.30% White, 57.19% African American
   
10. Birmingham, AL - The racial makeup of the city was 73.46% Black or African American, 24.07% White
    
11. Baltimore, MD - The racial makeup of the city was 64.34% Black or African American, 31.63% White
    
12. Richmond, CA - The racial makeup of the city was 21.36% white, 36.06% black or African American
    
13. Memphis, TN - The racial makeup of the city was 61.41% African American, 34.41% White
    
14. Jackson, MS - The racial makeup of the city was 27.79% White or Caucasian, 70.64% Black or African American
    

Need I bother compiling any more.. What a bloody joke.. To the contrary, all of the safest cities in the US had a large white racial makeup.

And then you say DelcoCouple it is wrong to profile.. The Facts and Data speaks for itself.

I wonder how many of those City's have Black mayors and significant number of Black political representation.

Here is Camden:

Black on Black racism?

[Boiler 47,487]

Detroit - Number 2

Atlanta - No3

[pedroh 21]

this is so sad.. i didnt know the folkkks @ vj were so freakin biased towards my brothas..

but again.. people think racial profiling is ok until it happens to ya (i didnt agree with racial profiling, but i was profiled once.. and im totally against it).. so that people who says its for a great cause and all that BS.. is a) because they havent been profiled or B) are white and will never know what it feels like

Edited February 5, 2007 by pedroh

[Heracles 417]

I wonder how many of those City's have Black mayors and significant number of Black political representation.

Maybe they are not good at their work. You guys continue to vote them in and now look at the results. All of those cities have become shitholes.. Wasn't DC the city where the people voted that corrupt mayor in twice..

Edited February 5, 2007 by Infidel

[Boiler 47,487]

I wonder how many of those City's have Black mayors and significant number of Black political representation.

Maybe they are not good at their work. You guys continue to vote them in and now look at the results. All of those cities have become shitholes.. Wasn't DC the city where the people voted that corrupt mayor in twice..

And New Orleans after what happened there.

Most Black crime is of course Black on Black.

But Balck victims do not seem to get any consideration.

Why is that?

[eric&gen 0]

MMMMmmmmm finger likcin good

[Heracles 417]

and clearly do not understand the implications of what you are suggesting?

...

According to annual FBI crime figures, more blacks are jailed for murder, robbery, and theft than whites. Nearly half of the two million prisoners that now jam America's prisons are black. They are more likely to get stiffer sentences in state and federal courts than whites for petty crimes, and drug offenses.

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This insures that more blacks will be stopped, searched, and arrested than whites, and further bumps up the arrest totals for blacks.

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Some key points you mentioned..

Nearly half of the prisoners are black yet only 13% of the population is black.. Hence black people will be pulled over coupled with the fact that a higher number of crimes are probably committed by black people in those cities.

What is sad is how people like yourself, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson just make it worse for these people. Rather than giving workable solutions all you guys know how to do is play the race card and the poor poor victim game. Thank God there are people like Oprah and Bill Cosby who see through that ####### and genuinely want to help and educate their community to move forward.