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Hi everyone,

was wondering, my fiancée bought an engagement ring for me in her own country, she has the receipt, so when I went to visit her for our engagement, will the engagement receipt she give me count as evidence of us meeting?

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hi everyone,

just a quick question, my fiancée bought an engagement ring for me in her own country, she has the receipt, so when I went to visit her for our engagement ceremony, will the engagement ring receipt she gave me count as proof of us actually meeting?

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Hi everyone,

was wondering, my fiancée bought an engagement ring for me in her own country, she has the receipt, so when I went to visit her for our engagement, will the engagement receipt she give me count as evidence of us meeting?

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Did you take photos during the ceremony? That is much more proof of meeting than a receipt. The receipt only shows that a ring was purchased, not that the two of you actually met.

Did you go somewhere together? Do you have receipts of for example going to the movies together or something similar that requires tickets?






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Hi everyone,

was wondering, my fiancée bought an engagement ring for me in her own country, she has the receipt, so when I went to visit her for our engagement, will the engagement receipt she give me count as evidence of us meeting?

thanks

No.. it only proves that someone bought a ring... who it was for is not proven and it does not prove that you were together. Primary evidence that you have been together/have actually met ... best - passport stamps, boarding passes, of the person that travelled. Receipts of any purchases or accommodation in that place, photographs of the two of you together at that location.

The passport stamps and boarding passes prove that one or both of you actually travelled and were in the same location at the same time. You can also use things like hotel payment receipts etc. (and the receipt for the ring as an extra if you want to). All those create a picture/proof that you have that relationship.


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It is only secondary evidence and primary evidence is proof that you were together at the same place at the same time so you therefore need things like copies of passport stamps, boarding passes, hotel receipts or other receipts that show you were at the same place together... additionally, photos of the two of you together that support the above. The ring receipt would be additional but is more useful for secondary evidence at the time of interview, though you could include a copy of it with the above as primary.


Mar 2011 - After 5mths denied for lost docs - Attempts to follow up failed. Mar 18 2012 - I-129F sent - No sign of NOA1 but they have banked the check...Jul 24 - Update - USCIS has located our file
Infopass Apt - they sorted through everything - our 2011 and 2012 file keep getting mixed up - getting us a Case# (still waiting) Dec- Infopass Appt- expecting to get a case # in about a week ..Still no Case number

Mar 2013 Infopass - advised file was in a box somewhere,and it would be quicker for us to refile. Life gets in the way... New petition submitted July 2014 .
I-129F Sent : Jul 28 2014
TSC received: Aug 04 2014
I-129F NOA1 : Aug 06 2014
I-129F NOA2 : Feb 25 2015 (NOA2 copy rcd: Mar 02)

Sent to NVC: Mar 09 / Left NVC Apr 1 / Arr Embassy Apr 7 / Pkt 3 Rcd Apr 15 / Medical Apr 17 / Pkt 3 sent May 1 / Interview May 12

Left NZ May 15

Married Aug 10

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**** three topics on the same issue in different forums merged. Please only post once on an issue/question.*****


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Ok thanks for the answers guys,

Also got another qyestuon, i traveled to her country for pur engagement ceremony, her dad booked a hall for the engagement ceremony, can i use the booking receipt for the hall and catering receipts as primary evidence? To show we actually met and spent money for tge engagement in the place i travelled to?

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Yes, and photos of the engagement ceremony too (as long as it doesn't look like a wedding).


Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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No the engagement receipt would not prove anything.It is only secondary evidence if that. Good primary evidence will be boarding passes, passport stamp, receipts from foreign country if it has both your names on it. that will prove that you went to her country. secondary evidence pictures of you and her and family will help prove you actually met. chat and text message will help prove your relationship is genuine, but an engagement ring receipt would prove nothing. Pictures of your engagement ceremony will be good just make sure it can not be confuse as wedding photos

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My wife and I had our pictures taken just after we bought the engagement ring, and it plainly show "The Three Hearts" a jewelry store, then me down on one knew in SM Mall, with 100 people watching, putting the ring on her finger, very up close pictures of both our hands, both inside the store and outside, and the "big picture" of me looking, stupid.,.,.and kind of embarrassed, but I love her so, it did not matter.

Now, we were able to use this as solid evidence, at the interview, and the officer was impressed with this sequence of pictures.

My gosh, cannot believe I did that in front of hundreds of people.,.,.,.hahahhaha, but "love is blind!"

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