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N-400 - How many total days have you spent outside the United States in the past five years?

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Hi Folks,

I'm coming up on my three years mark of being a Permanent Resident in the US. I'm about to apply for naturalization on the basis of being married to an american citizen.

There is a question on the form that reads like this:

How many total days have you spent outside the United States in the past five years?

Obviously, I have been 2 years out of the last five outside the US. I was thinking about answering zero and writing on a separate piece of paper something like:

"I answered zero because I'm applying on the basis of being married to a US citizen and I have not been out of the US at all during the last three years."

What do you all think about my idea? Any suggestions?

Apart from that it's all good and normal.

Cheers,

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So basically, you got here based on green card, and haven't haven't left ever since you entered the US? If that's the case then what you are going to do is quite plausible.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Germany
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Part 1, Question 2 make it clear

Have been a Permanent Resident of the United States for at least 3 years. In addition, you have been married to and living
with the same U.S. citizen spouse for the last 3 years,
and
your spouse has been a U.S. citizen for the last 3 years at the time
Have been a Permanent Resident of the United States for at least 3 years. In addition, you have been married to and living with the same U.S. citizen spouse for the last 3 years, and your spouse has been a U.S. citizen for the last 3 years at the time of filing your Form N-400

You only need to count time outside the US for the last three years. They are aware of that fact. But can't hurt to put a note to your application when sending it.

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Yup - sounds quite reasonable.

I also just applied on the basis on marriage to a USC. I've been a permanent resident for 4 years, but only gave days out the country for the past three years. In my case it was around 140 days (but all short trips).


08/12/2010 => Day 00 => Package sent to Chicago lockbox

08/13/2010 => Day 01 => Package received and signed for in Chicago

08/23/2010 => Day 11 => Email and Text receipt notification

08/23/2010 => Day 11 => Cheques cashed - $1010 and $355

08/26/2010 => Day 14 => NOAs received in the mail

08/30/2010 => Day 18 => Received biometrics appointment letter (for 9/23)

09/03/2010 => Day 22 => Did walk-in biometrics

09/16/2010 => Day 35 => Received interview letter for 10/21

10/15/2010 => Day 64 => AP received

10/20/2010 => Day 69 => EAC received

10/21/2010 => Day 70 => AOS Interview, approved, I-551 stamp and card production ordered

10/30/2010 => Day 79 => Green card received

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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You need to give them all the time you were away from the country since becoming a LPR or for the past 5 years, which ever is shorter. If you've been a LPR for 4 years, you need to fill it out for the past 4 years. I also applied based on marriage, but had been a LPR for 7 years when I applied and I put all the time away for the past 5 years. They will probably disregard any time before the 3 years but in my opinion it's better to give them what they ask.


N-400 (based on 3-year marriage rule)
06/05/2014 Application Sent
06/06/2014 Application Received in Phoenix

06/09/2014 Priority Date

06/11/2014 Notice Date

06/12//2014 Check Cashed
06/12/2014 Received email/text receipt confirmation from Phoenix Lockbox

06/17/2014 Biometrics Letter mailed
06/20/2014 Biometrics Letter Received

06/24/2014 Biometrics Walk-in

06/26/2014 In line for Interview

07/03/2014 Original Biometrics Appointment

07/29/2014 Yellow Letter Received

09/05/2014 Interview letter Received

10/07/2014 Interview

10/17/2014 Received email/text that oath has been scheduled

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You need to give them all the time you were away from the country since becoming a LPR or for the past 5 years, which ever is shorter. If you've been a LPR for 4 years, you need to fill it out for the past 4 years. I also applied based on marriage, but had been a LPR for 7 years when I applied and I put all the time away for the past 5 years. They will probably disregard any time before the 3 years but in my opinion it's better to give them what they ask.

Thank you everyone for your help.

alix, forgive me but what does LPR mean?

In my case, I'll have been in the US without leaving at all for 3 years in January. So you are suggesting including the 2 years (about 690 days) in the "how many total days have you spent outside the United States in the past five years" part? I was simply living in my home country of Australia whilst I was working on my green card application, then when I got here I havn't left.

Also, what do you think? I'm about to submit two tax returns with the N400 packet. Should I simply include the first page with names, address etc or the whole tax return?

Thanks so much.

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So basically, you got here based on green card, and haven't haven't left ever since you entered the US? If that's the case then what you are going to do is quite plausible.

Yes, that's right. I was going to leave that part blank and include a statement on another page saying: I have not left the US at all in the the last three years.

I was going to do that based on the fact that in the N400 instructions it says if you dont know the answer to a question to leave it blank and include an explanation on a separate sheet.

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Thank you everyone for your help.

alix, forgive me but what does LPR mean?

In my case, I'll have been in the US without leaving at all for 3 years in January. So you are suggesting including the 2 years (about 690 days) in the "how many total days have you spent outside the United States in the past five years" part? I was simply living in my home country of Australia whilst I was working on my green card application, then when I got here I havn't left.

Also, what do you think? I'm about to submit two tax returns with the N400 packet. Should I simply include the first page with names, address etc or the whole tax return?

Thanks so much.

The question in in relationship to when you got your green-card (GC). You can only respond based on the three years as you were not a GC holder before that. They want to establish your travel pattern since you got your GC.

They need the entire tax return.

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STANLEY & KAREN
01/15/2009 - Fedex I-130, I-485, I-693, I-864, I-765, G-325A
01/20/2009 - Received in mail-room and signed for by J CHYBA
01/28/2009 - Checks cashed by Homeland Security
02/02/2009 - Received in mail 3 pcs of NOA1 one each for I-485, I-130, I-765 dated 01/28/2009
02/03/2009 - Received email RFE. What did I not send now, whew!
02/09/2009 - Received mails for initial evidence and Biometric appointment (02/19/2009); mailed evidence
02/19/2009 - biometrics done - in a out in 45 minutes
03/14/2009 - Receive NOA2 dated 03/10/2009. AOS interview April 29, 2009
03/18/2009 - Touched. EAD Card production ordered
03/25/2009 - Touched. EAD approval sent
03/27/2009 - EAD card received in the mail; applied for SS# immediately (office is across the street from my home)
04/02/2009 - Received SS# in the mail
04/29/2009 - Interviewed. I- 130 approved, I-485 pending IO's review
05/05/2009 - Received NOA2. Welcome letter for Permanent Residency. I-130 and I-485 approved 04/30/2009
05/08/2009 - Touched. I-485 approval letter sent
05/11/2009 - GC received in the mail. Expires 2019
05/11/2009 - Applied to remove restrictions on my SS Card
05/18/2009 - Received unrestricted SS card

10/13/2009 - My darling husband of 2 yrs 5 months 3 weeks 3 days passed away :(

Naturalization Process (5 Yrs Later) :goofy:

Mar 28, 2014 - Mailed N-400
Apr 08, 2014 - Check cashed
Apr 09, 2014 - Receive Notice letter Priority date April 3, 2014
Apr 11, 2014 - Touched - Email - Biometrics letter mailed
May 08, 2014 - Biometrics done
May 12, 2014 - Touched - Email - In line for interview scheduling
July 12, 2014 - Pre-interview letter (Yellow letter) received in mail
Aug 20, 2014 - Touched - Email - Interview scheduled
Aug 25, 2014 - Interview scheduled for Sept. 24, 2014
Sept 24, 2014 - Passed interview
Oct 06, 2014 - Touched - Email - In oath scheduling que
Oct 08, 2014 - Touched - Text - Oath ceremony scheduled
Oct 14, 2014 - Received letter - Oath ceremony Oct 28, 2014
Oct 28, 2014 - I AM A US CITIZEN! :joy: :joy: :joy:
Nov 12, 2014 - Updated my status from permanent resident to citizen at Social Security
Nov 14, 2014 - Applied for US passport
Nov 29, 2014 - Received US passport book
Dec 01, 2014 - Received Passport card
Dec 04, 2014 - Received Naturalization Certificate

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KayCee

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