ECC (exit permit), question about getting Filipino passport for child

[nachosph 0]

my son was born on aug of 2011. i went to the philippines on his 6th month to apply for his crba and us passport. he is now 3 years old, and I am now half way petitioning my wife. I just now noticed this whole Exit permit thing that my son needs in order to leave the country since he has only his us passport. I read, to avoid this exit permit fee, i could get my son a filipino passport. My question is, would that seems suspicious? I mean, it took my wife 3 years to get him his filipino passport, and only getting it just to avoid a permit fee before leaving the country. The question may sound stupid, i just want to make sure of things. That exit fee will kill me with that over stay payments that add on, and since my son is 3, thats pushing almost 15k php. so, if anyone has done this process...filipino passport is the way to go? Even if my son's face on his us passport and filipino passport will be different ( since he grew).

[TBoneTX 43,058]

*** Country-specific thread moved from CR-1 Process forum to the Philippines regional subforum. ***

[Hank_ 9,173]

my son was born on aug of 2011. i went to the philippines on his 6th month to apply for his crba and us passport. he is now 3 years old, and I am now half way petitioning my wife. I just now noticed this whole Exit permit thing that my son needs in order to leave the country since he has only his us passport. I read, to avoid this exit permit fee, i could get my son a filipino passport. My question is, would that seems suspicious? I mean, it took my wife 3 years to get him his filipino passport, and only getting it just to avoid a permit fee before leaving the country. The question may sound stupid, i just want to make sure of things. That exit fee will kill me with that over stay payments that add on, and since my son is 3, thats pushing almost 15k php. so, if anyone has done this process...filipino passport is the way to go? Even if my son's face on his us passport and filipino passport will be different ( since he grew).

Your son is dual citizen so it is very common to have both passports. Most get both passports for their child after CRBA.

[annefernandez 0]

my son was born on aug of 2011. i went to the philippines on his 6th month to apply for his crba and us passport. he is now 3 years old, and I am now half way petitioning my wife. I just now noticed this whole Exit permit thing that my son needs in order to leave the country since he has only his us passport. I read, to avoid this exit permit fee, i could get my son a filipino passport. My question is, would that seems suspicious? I mean, it took my wife 3 years to get him his filipino passport, and only getting it just to avoid a permit fee before leaving the country. The question may sound stupid, i just want to make sure of things. That exit fee will kill me with that over stay payments that add on, and since my son is 3, thats pushing almost 15k php. so, if anyone has done this process...filipino passport is the way to go? Even if my son's face on his us passport and filipino passport will be different ( since he grew).

I wonder how did it go on your case? we have the same issue because our son is now 3 years old also and this what happened to us last week when i went to the BI..and the worst is, they want me to pay 70,000 PHP!!! I was so shocked and almost cried to what i've heard. They said that thats for ECC and penalty for not registering our son the soonest he got his passport. They also said that its their new law. I mean #######!!! what kind of law is that?! SERIOUSLY BI!?!

Someone told me to just get an appointment for PI passport, so he will be a dual citizen, NO NEED ECC and NO QUESTIONS on the DEPARTURE. LESS HASSLE. I am a Filipina i dont deserve to deal with their business in BI.

[manilaraf 28]

Okay, I see why an ECC is required in your son's case: (http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php/faqs/emigration-clearance-certificate-ecc)

1. Who should apply for an Emigration Clearance Certificate?

ECC has two (2) types, ECC –A (also referred to as regular ECC and ECC-B.

The following foreign nationals must secure an ECC-A prior to their departure:

• 1. Holders of Temporary Visitor Visa (also referred to as tourist visa) who have stayed in the Philippines for six (6) months or more;
  2. Holders of expired or downgraded Immigrant or Non-Immigrant Visas;
  3. Holders of valid Immigrant or Non-Immigrant Visas but are leaving for good;
  4. Philippine-born foreign nationals who will depart from the Philippines for the first time;
  5. Holders of Temporary Visitor Visa with Orders to Leave;
  6. Bona fide seafarers who have stayed in the Philippines for 30 days or more and has a duly approved discharge from BI.

ECC-B is issued to departing holders of Immigrant and Non-Immigrant visas with valid ACR I-Cards and are leaving the country temporarily.

If you can get a birth certificate from the NSO, you can get him a passport: (http://www.passport.com.ph/info/requirements/for/new)

GENERAL REQUIREMENTS

• Personal appearance
• Confirmed appointment
• Birth Certificate (BC) in Security Paper (SECPA) issued by the National Statistics Office (NSO) or Certified True Copy (CTC) of BC issued by the Local Civil Registrar (LCR) and duly authenticated by NSO. Transcribed Birth Certificate from the LCR is required when entries in NSO Birth Certificate are blurred or unreadable. (Report of Birth duly authenticated by NSO if born abroad)
• No need to submit a passport size photo
• Valid picture IDs and supporting documents to prove identity (Please refer to List of Acceptable IDs and List of Supporting Documents)

NSO Birth Certificate

Birth Certificate (BC) in Security Paper (SECPA) issued by the National Statistics Office (NSO) or Certified True Copy (CTC) of BC issued by the Local Civil Registrar duly authenticated by NSO depending on the NSO signatory.

For Minor Applicants (below 18 years old) General Requirements:

• Confirmed appointment (except for 1 year old and below)
• Personal appearance of the minor applicant
• Personal appearance of either parent (if minor is a legitimate child) / of mother (if minor is an illegitimate child)
• Original Birth Certificate of minor in Security Paper issued by NSO or Certified True Copy of Birth Certificate issued by the Local Civil Registrar and duly authenticated by NSO. Transcribed Birth Certificate from the LCR is required when entries in NSO Birth Certificate are blurred or unreadable. Report of Birth duly authenticated by NSO is required if minor was born abroad.
• Document of identity with photo, if minor is 8-17 years old (for first time and renewal applicant) such as School ID or Form 137 with readable dry seal
  • For minor applicants who never attended school, a Notarized Affidavit of Explanation executed by either parent (if minor is a legitimate child) / by mother (if minor is an illegitimate child) detailing the reasons why the child is not in school, is required
• Marriage Certificate of minor’s parents duly authenticated by NSO
• Notarized Affidavit of Support and Consent to travel from either parent (if minor is a legitimate child) / from mother (if minor is an illegitimate child)
• Original and photocopy of valid passport of the person traveling with the minor
• Photocopy of valid passport of either parent (if minor is a legitimate child) / of mother (if minor is an illegitimate child) or identification documents (Please refer to List of Acceptable IDs)

Good luck.

[Hank_ 9,173]

I wonder how did it go on your case? we have the same issue because our son is now 3 years old also and this what happened to us last week when i went to the BI..and the worst is, they want me to pay 70,000 PHP!!! I was so shocked and almost cried to what i've heard. They said that thats for ECC and penalty for not registering our son the soonest he got his passport. They also said that its their new law. I mean #######!!! what kind of law is that?! SERIOUSLY BI!?!

Someone told me to just get an appointment for PI passport, so he will be a dual citizen, NO NEED ECC and NO QUESTIONS on the DEPARTURE. LESS HASSLE. I am a Filipina i dont deserve to deal with their business in BI.

Yes YOU are a Filipina, but your son is a USC "he" is the one dealing with BI. The best way to avoid this is to have both U.S. and Philippines passports.

[biaobiao 40]

my son was born on aug of 2011. i went to the philippines on his 6th month to apply for his crba and us passport. he is now 3 years old, and I am now half way petitioning my wife. I just now noticed this whole Exit permit thing that my son needs in order to leave the country since he has only his us passport. I read, to avoid this exit permit fee, i could get my son a filipino passport. My question is, would that seems suspicious? I mean, it took my wife 3 years to get him his filipino passport, and only getting it just to avoid a permit fee before leaving the country. The question may sound stupid, i just want to make sure of things. That exit fee will kill me with that over stay payments that add on, and since my son is 3, thats pushing almost 15k php. so, if anyone has done this process...filipino passport is the way to go? Even if my son's face on his us passport and filipino passport will be different ( since he grew).

We are on the same boat. I will apply passport for my daughter early next year too. She is holding us passport as well. As far as i know, that should not be a problem. By law, our kids are dual citizen. So they are entitled to obtain passport.

Besides i dont think dfa would know if the child has a passport from another country..

But i will still fill up the portion where it is asked if the applicant has another passport

[biaobiao 40]

I was able to apply passport for my daughter last dec 23. there was no problem. They just wanted to see her us passport.

They needed photocopy of my passport, nso marriage cert orig, nso birth cert orig, notarized support and consent, photocopy of her us passport.

We were prioritize since she is a minor, took us 15minutes total. God is good.

[SennaBrigante 92]

They won't ask why you're only now getting him a PH passport. Just be sure to bring all the docs on your appointment. I got my daughter a PH passport for the sole reason of avoiding an ECC which IMO is a big scam. 70k for a 3 y/o?? #######.

[offloadedfamily 0]

What do you need to bring to BI to get the baby ECC? I was offloaded last night for no ECC and need to try to fly again in 1-3 days, no time for passport. Unless they can do a passport in 1-3 days.

This policy needs to change. I have paid ECCs at airport in emergencies and I'm American. My Son's mom is filipina and he gets offloaded? Outrageous, born filipino and now treated worse than a tourist.