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Hello all,

I've posted a couple of times I think about this, but here is my final line-up of evidence we are going to send off once my husband has signed his parts:

  • Copy of the marriage certificate (obviously!)
  • Copies of emails sent to each other. Not the content, but a screencap of my inbox for each year starting from 2006 up until the present day.
  • A copy of a conversation we had on MSN in 2005 where we both found out we liked each other
  • A couple of screenshots of Skype IM chats. I was going to provide more, but there are literally 30,000 lines of chat in just one year, plus we lost our other logs from before 2012!
  • Copies of money sent via Paypal
  • Copies of Amazon order confirmations of gifts bought for each other, from 2006 to present time
  • Copies of wedding cards received from friends and family
  • Copies of flight itineraries and corresponding passport stamps from all of our trips to visit each other. I also included the bio page of the old passport I used so they could match up the numbers. We were only able to start visiting each other from 2011 which I hope isn't some kind of weird "red flag".
  • Copies of SkypeOut call logs. Only three calls since we mostly email each other (working schedules and time differences!) but they were over an hour long
  • And lastly, photos of us together. Three for each trip (there were seven visits, so 21 photos), including pics of us with each other's relatives and wedding/reception pics.

We were hoping to provide evidence of financial co-mingling, but it wasn't possible to join any of his accounts or policies without a social security number.

Will the above be enough? It wouldn't be the end of the world to receive an RFE, but it would be nice to not get one biggrin.png

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ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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Hello all,

I've posted a couple of times I think about this, but here is my final line-up of evidence we are going to send off once my husband has signed his parts:

  • Copy of the marriage certificate (obviously!)
  • Copies of emails sent to each other. Not the content, but a screencap of my inbox for each year starting from 2006 up until the present day.
  • A copy of a conversation we had on MSN in 2005 where we both found out we liked each other
  • A couple of screenshots of Skype IM chats. I was going to provide more, but there are literally 30,000 lines of chat in just one year, plus we lost our other logs from before 2012!
  • Copies of money sent via Paypal
  • Copies of Amazon order confirmations of gifts bought for each other, from 2006 to present time
  • Copies of wedding cards received from friends and family
  • Copies of flight itineraries and corresponding passport stamps from all of our trips to visit each other. I also included the bio page of the old passport I used so they could match up the numbers. We were only able to start visiting each other from 2011 which I hope isn't some kind of weird "red flag".
  • Copies of SkypeOut call logs. Only three calls since we mostly email each other (working schedules and time differences!) but they were over an hour long
  • And lastly, photos of us together. Three for each trip (there were seven visits, so 21 photos), including pics of us with each other's relatives and wedding/reception pics.

We were hoping to provide evidence of financial co-mingling, but it wasn't possible to join any of his accounts or policies without a social security number.

Will the above be enough? It wouldn't be the end of the world to receive an RFE, but it would be nice to not get one biggrin.png

Sweet Lord this is more than enough even for the most high fraud of embassies. You will be fine. Woo wee. You know our stuff. Someone has been doing their homework.

But no really you willl hear from other UK folk this is well good.

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Sweet Lord this is more than enough even for the most high fraud of embassies. You will be fine. Woo wee. You know our stuff. Someone has been doing their homework.

But no really you willl hear from other UK folk this is well good.

Lol, seriously? I thought it was borderline enough XD thank you, you've boosted my confidence!

I have another question now for anyone who knows the answer. My husband has just decided he will fly to the UK a few days before my flight to the US and fly back with me. When I arrive at the US POE, can I go through the USC line with him, or do we have to separate and he waits for me in the luggage hall?

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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Hello all,

I've posted a couple of times I think about this, but here is my final line-up of evidence we are going to send off once my husband has signed his parts:

  • Copy of the marriage certificate (obviously!)
  • Copies of emails sent to each other. Not the content, but a screencap of my inbox for each year starting from 2006 up until the present day.
  • A copy of a conversation we had on MSN in 2005 where we both found out we liked each other
  • A couple of screenshots of Skype IM chats. I was going to provide more, but there are literally 30,000 lines of chat in just one year, plus we lost our other logs from before 2012!
  • Copies of money sent via Paypal
  • Copies of Amazon order confirmations of gifts bought for each other, from 2006 to present time
  • Copies of wedding cards received from friends and family
  • Copies of flight itineraries and corresponding passport stamps from all of our trips to visit each other. I also included the bio page of the old passport I used so they could match up the numbers. We were only able to start visiting each other from 2011 which I hope isn't some kind of weird "red flag".
  • Copies of SkypeOut call logs. Only three calls since we mostly email each other (working schedules and time differences!) but they were over an hour long
  • And lastly, photos of us together. Three for each trip (there were seven visits, so 21 photos), including pics of us with each other's relatives and wedding/reception pics.

We were hoping to provide evidence of financial co-mingling, but it wasn't possible to join any of his accounts or policies without a social security number.

Will the above be enough? It wouldn't be the end of the world to receive an RFE, but it would be nice to not get one biggrin.png

I would actually tone it down and only submit what is necessary to prove your relationship in the most concise form possible (ie. marriage certificate, pictures of you two together, pictures of you two with friends/family (with names), affidavits from a few of those people in the photos, proof that you've made a visit to your spouse solely for visitation). An easy litmus test is to think about how easy it would be to forge and get away with a document you're thinking of including. Marriage certificate, forgeable, but easily verified. Include this. Chat logs, easy to forge, difficult to verify, and therefore, easy to get away with. Don't include this. As always, a retained immigration attorney is highly recommended.

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K-1 Visa Timeline (Denied, 3 years, 29 days total)
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2009-8-21 - K-1 sent

2009-10-27 - NOA1 received
2009-11-22 - Received request for DS-230
2009-11-26 - DS-230 sent
2010-1-22 - NOA2 received, medical check & interview date (2010-2-11)
2010-2-11 - Interview! Received Blue Slip for China Communist Party membership. sad.png
2010-3-26 - RFE sent, written statement explaining disassociation from CCP
2010-7-22 - Sent an inquiry every month starting 7/22, always still in AP
2010-12-1 - Senator Feinstein's official inquiry, still under AP (yep, doesn't help. Immigration > Senator)

(…many monthly inquiries later…)
2012-6-12 - Final interview scheduled (9/18/2012)

2012-9-18 - K-1 was denied. :cry: We could not overcome INA212(A)(3)(d)

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CR-1 Visa Timeline (Approved, converted into IR-1, 2 years, 1 month, 29 days)
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2012-12-10 - Married in Beijing! <3

2013-5-1 - I-130 sent
2013-5-6 - NOA1 received

2013-12-6 - Case transferred to the TSC

2013-1-9 - (Bogus) RFE received

2013-2-24 - RFE sent

2014-5-2 - NOA2 received

2014-5-6 - Case shipped to NVC

2014-5-14 - Case received at NVC

2014-6-16 - NVC Case Number Assigned

2014-11-15 - NVC Case Complete!

2015-1-6 - Guangzhou Consulate received

2015-1-26 - Interview date!

2015-1-26 - 221(g) denial (again)! :cry: Case being transferred to Washington for a SAO.

2015-5-21 - Consulate e-mailed us and asked for her passport! Approved?

2015-5-23 - Submitted passport to CITIC Bank

2015-6-29 - Passport with visa arrived :dancing:... but expires in 16 days, time to hustle!!!

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As always, a retained immigration attorney is highly recommended.

Thank you, but I don't need an attorney for my case.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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I think it looks very good! Good job :)

We submitted chat logs and all the other stuff, sans affidavits. Total pages- 218.

They wanted evidence? They've got it.

I don't think that it would hurt to include as much evidence as you can.

Especially, if evidence of financial co-mingling was impossible to come up with. We didn't have any of these as well... (We do now, though)

Immigration attorney definitely not needed for this process. Unless it's a problematic case.

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When two people are meant for each other, no time is too long, no distance is too far, no one can ever tear them apart.

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6/21/2013 -Married in Stockholm, Sweden 4/16/2014- Case received at NVC

9/6/2013 -Priority Date 5/13 /2014- Case number and IIN assigned

2/25/2014 -Transferred to NSC 5/20/2014- DS-261 completed

3/31/2014 -Approved 5/21/2014- AOS fee invoiced and paid

5/22/2014- AOS package overnighted to NVC

5/28/2014- AOS scanned into the system

6/20/2014- IV invoice email (but fee still locked on CEAC )

6/23/2014- IV fee finally unlocked and paid.

IV package overnighted to NVC

6/30/2014- IV scanned in. DS260 completed.

7/1/2014- AOS accepted

7/2/2014- False checklist (AOS reviewed)

8/1/2014 False checklist (attorney's G28 reviewed)

8/2/2014 False checklist (NVC not sure why it was generated)

I am the beneficiary. 8/12/2014 CASE COMPLETE!

8/26/2014 Medical

9/2/2014 Interview... APPROVED!!!

9/5/2014 Visa in hand

Removal Of Conditions:

10/29- Package sent to VSC

11/1 - NOA1

11/17- Received biometrics appointment letter

11/30- Biometrics appointment

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I think it looks very good! Good job smile.png

We submitted chat logs and all the other stuff, sans affidavits. Total pages- 218.

They wanted evidence? They've got it.

I don't think that it would hurt to include as much evidence as you can.

Especially, if evidence of financial co-mingling was impossible to come up with. We didn't have any of these as well... (We do now, though)

Immigration attorney definitely not needed for this process. Unless it's a problematic case.

Thanks :) I definitely didn't have 218 pages, but I think I gave a good snapshot of our very long relationship prior to marriage, as well as including screenshots of chats post-marriage. Even then, if they want more they can ask for it and I'll happily send.

I've shipped the petition off to my husband now who is the USC. Once he's signed everything he'll send it to the Chicago Lockbox and our visa journey will begin :D

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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Will the above be enough? It wouldn't be the end of the world to receive an RFE, but it would be nice to not get one biggrin.png

IMO, your list looks good. I would also disagree with the poster who told you to "tone it down" because if you feel that list makes the most compelling case to the decision makers, then you should go with it. Just my two cents.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Yep, the more the better...and when you think you have enough...toss a few more in there. They love that.

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06/15/2013 - I-751 Sent

06/19/2013 - NOA 1

07/17/2013 - Biometrics

08/19/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to CSC

09/17/2013 - Approved!

09/23/2013 - Received approval notice.

10/09/2013 - Card received. Fini!

N400

12/18/2017 - N400 submitted

12/19/2017 - NOA

01/09/2018 - Biometrics

04/10/2018 - Interview

04/27/2018 - Oath

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