Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Suspected Boston Bomber, May Not Get Islamic Funeral From Wary Muslims

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Every time there's a school shooting, people assume its a white goth kid(s) that got picked on a bunch and didn't have any friends.

And every time, those kids have some kind of "mental illness" - they're never just thugs, like the black kids.

[Karee 4,189]

Every time there's a school shooting, people assume its a white goth kid(s) that got picked on a bunch and didn't have any friends.

Thank you.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Every time there's a school shooting, people assume its a white goth kid(s) that got picked on a bunch and didn't have any friends.

Well, only if it is a mostly white suburban school. The violence that happens in the inner city schools daily doesn't make the national news. If there was the same outrage and concern for those kids, perhaps things could be different.

[GandD 5,966]

And every time, those kids have some kind of "mental illness" - they're never just thugs, like the black kids.

Usually because there's no logic to the killing and the ultimate suicide. Easy to understand gang violence. Either way, the point was, profiling can exist against white people. These white kids just don't present a rally cry distinctive enough to quantify them into a neat little group for mass discrimination. But people are more wary of goth kids now.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

westboro is an example. do you have any idea just how many muslims live peacefully, all over this world, with no connection whatsoever to terror?

You know what. actually I do. it's about 93%. Still leaves 15 mil or so

[GandD 5,966]

Well, only if it is a mostly white suburban school. The violence that happens in the inner city schools daily doesn't make the national news. If there was the same outrage and concern for those kids, perhaps things could be different.

Good point, but those are probably going to be the one offs settling debts or arguments. I use "arguments" loosely to cover whatever disagreement one can have with another. Different than shooting up the entire school.

[decocker 7,198]

Usually because there's no logic to the killing and the ultimate suicide. Easy to understand gang violence. Either way, the point was, profiling can exist against white people. These white kids just don't present a rally cry distinctive enough to quantify them into a neat little group for mass discrimination. But people are more wary of goth kids now.

the profiling isn't against white people in these instances, the profiling is against goth kids. outsiders. kids who look and dress funny. i was one of those kids, but my last year in school was 96. after columbine, people weren't going "oh scary white kids" they were going "oh scary goth kids"

[Penny Lane 8,159]

You know what. actually I do. it's about 93%. Still leaves 15 mil or so

He finally found a post he could answer.

[GandD 5,966]

the profiling isn't against white people in these instances, the profiling is against goth kids. outsiders. kids who look and dress funny. i was one of those kids, but my last year in school was 96. after columbine, people weren't going "oh scary white kids" they were going "oh scary goth kids"

Its just an identifier. Something to create a "them" and "us." "They" are the ones that do this to "us." The good news for the goth kids is they can change clothes and avoid discrimination.

Unfortunately for Muslims, their skin color became the identifier because it was the easiest method of identification in most people's minds. Hence Christian middle-easterners will likely be considered "terrorists" by the masses.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Every time there's a school shooting, people assume its a white goth kid(s) that got picked on a bunch and didn't have any friends.

Yep, but where is the apology from the white Christians? There isn't one because it's not revelant when it's a white person. Case in point: Sihk shooting;

"Authorities have identified the man behind the rampage as Wade Michael Page, a 40-year-old former soldier-turned-front man for a white supremacist rock band. Page killed himself in the parking lot of the suburban Milwaukee gurdwara after being shot by a police officer, the FBI said Wednesday."

"Investigators say they found no clues to explain why Page went on the killing spree. But standing with the relatives of other victims, Amardeep Kaleka, the son of the congregation's slain leader, called the killings an act of cowardice."

Now, lets take a look at white supremacist:

In the United States, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the group most associated with the white supremacist movement. Many white supremacist groups are based on the concept of preserving genetic purity, and do not focus solely on discrimination by skin color. The KKK's reasons for supporting racial segregation are not primarily based on religious ideals, but some Klan groups are openly Protestant. The KKK and other white supremacist groups like Aryan Nations, The Order and the White Patriot Party are considered Anti-Semitic.

The Good Citizen 1926 Published by Pillar of Fire ChurchNazi Germany promulgated white supremacy in the belief that the Aryan race was the master race. It was combined with a eugenics programme that aimed for racial hygiene by using compulsory sterilizations and extermination of the Untermensch (or "sub-humans"), and which eventually culminated in the Holocaust.

Christian Identity is another movement closely tied to white supremacy. Some white supremacists identify themselves as Odinists, although many Odinists reject white supremacy. Some white supremacist groups, such as the South African Boeremag, conflate elements of Christianity and Odinism. The World Church of the Creator (now called the Creativity Movement) is atheistic and denounces the Christian religion and other deistic religions. Aside from this, its ideology is similar to many Christian Identity groups, in their belief that there is a Jewish conspiracy in control of governments, the banking industry and the media. Matthew F. Hale, founder of the World Church of the Creator has published articles stating that all races other than white are "mud races," which the religion teaches

Now what's funny is, when someone that's a white supremacist or somebody who commits a brutal crime and says "God made me do it" no one says a word. But why is it when a radical muslim does it, we have to denoucne it world wide?

[Karee 4,189]

Well, only if it is a mostly white suburban school. The violence that happens in the inner city schools daily doesn't make the national news. If there was the same outrage and concern for those kids, perhaps things could be different.

Agreed.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

And every time, those kids have some kind of "mental illness" - they're never just thugs, like the black kids.

Yep, because mental illness is NEVER brought into the equation when it's black kids involved.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Unfortunately for Muslims, their skin color became the identifier because it was the easiest method of identification in most people's minds.

Huh? Some of the whitest people in the world are Muslims.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Well, only if it is a mostly white suburban school. The violence that happens in the inner city schools daily doesn't make the national news. If there was the same outrage and concern for those kids, perhaps things could be different.

Agreed.

Actually, most inner city schools don't have mass shootings because those places have metal detectors already in place. Most of the violence happens outside of the school or within the school for fighting and such. And I agree, if they put focus on that, things would slowly make a change.

[GandD 5,966]

Yep, but where is the apology from the white Christians? There isn't one because it's not revelant when it's a white person. Case in point: Sihk shooting;

Cus they didn't do it in the name of Christianity.

Now what's funny is, when someone that's a white supremacist

I condemn white supremacists. I'm ashamed of what they do to the image of us white folks world wide.

or somebody who commits a brutal crime and says "God made me do it" no one says a word. But why is it when a radical muslim does it, we have to denoucne it world wide?

If I was Christian, I'd tell you he doesn't represent us and condemn his actions. Not to say that I should have to, but if you and I were discussing it, I'd want to make sure you didn't identify us as the same. I have a similar tactic when people say talk about the "turtleman." He's from KY and appears to be a dumb redneck. I usually "condemn" his representation of KY to people outside the state.

But I kinda think all religion is made up. Still I can't prove that so I guess I can't condemn it all.