Engage Marry or end relationship?

[NinaD 6]

Yes, they only want the latest three years. If he made enough money on the last transcript (2012) you should be fine. My husband had enough income on last year's tax transcript and I don't think they even looked at the other two years, although we did file them. If he has worked in the last three years and can file those transcripts, then go for it. He may still need a co-sponsor depending on the amount of income. As for the back taxes, if they were farther back than three years ago, and in a company name, it MAY not affect your application (but I don't really know, so don't quote me on that). However, he really should get it in order for your future peace of mind. The IRS will even do payment plans.

Check this out, it may answer some more of your questions: http://www.ehow.com/list_6795888_minimum-requirements-fiancee-visa-petition.html

Also: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

If he is applying for just you (no kids), then your household will be two people. This means he had to have made at least $18,912 last year to be able to sponsor you without a co-sponsor.

Hope that helps a little more...

[lomaca 0]

Aw NinaD thank you!

Sorry to keep going on and on but he's been out of the US since 2010 so he would have earned decent money in 2009, 2008-will they ask for them then instead? He emptied his bank accounts back then too cos we were relocating to europe. He went back to the states because he couldn't find work and has volunteered there since so would have no employer to write a letter, only the volunteer place.

I suppose a co-sponsor like his uncle or mum would help and if he found work in the meantime that could ease that side of things (support, job, etc)

Hmm so much involved my my.....

Darnell-It's been a 6 year relationship I am 31-waiting around isn't really an option if you know what I mean.

Looking forward to more feedback. Thanks guys

[Darnell 8,480]

Darnell-It's been a 6 year relationship I am 31-waiting around isn't really an option if you know what I mean.

Sorry, I was trying to be nice.

He needs to 'fish or cut bait' , either or.

Seems he has no current position to help you about immigration, as he's made prior life choices that would preclude you from immigrating to the USA with him as the primary sponser.

[NinaD 6]

Aw NinaD thank you!

Sorry to keep going on and on but he's been out of the US since 2010 so he would have earned decent money in 2009, 2008-will they ask for them then instead? He emptied his bank accounts back then too cos we were relocating to europe. He went back to the states because he couldn't find work and has volunteered there since so would have no employer to write a letter, only the volunteer place.

I suppose a co-sponsor like his uncle or mum would help and if he found work in the meantime that could ease that side of things (support, job, etc)

Looking forward to more feedback. Thanks guys

You're welcome. Unfortunately, they won't take the old income as proof of being able to support you. It HAS to be latest tax transcript, so in this case, 2012.

If he didn't make at least $18,912 last year then you will need a co-sponsor, period. Yes, his Mum or his Uncle, if they are willing. So that might answer your questions.

1. If he didn't have enough income last year, he can't sponsor you, without a co-sponsor. He can file for the K-1 visa IF he gets a co-sponsor.

2. If he had enough income last year, then just go ahead and file the K-1 application.

3. He emigrates to Ireland at this point, if he can't get the co-sponsor.

Maybe that will make it easier to decide what to do? Good luck.

[lomaca 0]

No worries Darnell I appreciate your honesty and being straight up. I agree with you his situation is not helping us. It's really sad for me I love him so much and it's essentially coming down to money taxes etc.

[Peter_Pan 661]

I think a marriage visa would work for you best. If you get married, you have almost one year wait, but you will get the GC almost as soon as you enter the US. If by 31 you mean your biological clock is ticking, I suggest having kids while still in Ireland, or it will be complicated in the US, since I suppose he doesn't have a medical insurance/and if he does, you will still have to wait 12 to 18 months until you can add the maternity benefits, after the marriage and you are added to his insurance.

[lomaca 0]

Hey Peter Pan,

So what your saying is he would come here we'd marry, he'd go back or stay here, then a year later enter the US. Is that right? So we'd still fill out the affidavit form and get a co sponsor etc. Correct?

Thanks

I think a marriage visa would work for you best. If you get married, you have almost one year wait, but you will get the GC almost as soon as you enter the US. If by 31 you mean your biological clock is ticking, I suggest having kids while still in Ireland, or it will be complicated in the US, since I suppose he doesn't have a medical insurance/and if he does, you will still have to wait 12 to 18 months until you can add the maternity benefits, after the marriage and you are added to his insurance.

[Peter_Pan 661]

Yes, you will still have to fill the affidavit form and get a co sponsor, once you get to the interview stage. That would give him some time to get everything together, but it has the advantage that you can work almost at once after coming to the US.

[lomaca 0]

Ok that's great to know about only taking 2012 tax returns.

So it's 1, 3, or neither.....

Who said love was an easy game?!

Ciao for now

You're welcome. Unfortunately, they won't take the old income as proof of being able to support you. It HAS to be latest tax transcript, so in this case, 2012.

If he didn't make at least $18,912 last year then you will need a co-sponsor, period. Yes, his Mum or his Uncle, if they are willing. So that might answer your questions.

1. If he didn't have enough income last year, he can't sponsor you, without a co-sponsor. He can file for the K-1 visa IF he gets a co-sponsor.

2. If he had enough income last year, then just go ahead and file the K-1 application.

3. He emigrates to Ireland at this point, if he can't get the co-sponsor.

Maybe that will make it easier to decide what to do? Good luck.

[NinaD 6]

No problem. Or, you could do what Peter Pan suggests. Get married (either in Ireland or the USA) and then apply for a CR-1 visa. As soon as you enter the States on your CR-1 visa you are able to work. It takes about a year to go through the whole process. It is what I did. Your husband should probably stay in the States and get a job, and a residence while the application is processing. With the I-130 they don't ask for the tax transcript until the end of the process, so it would give him this whole year to work and file taxes. By the time you need the affidavit of support it might be 2014, and he could just submit 2013 as proof of support. You will need to stay in Ireland while waiting for the visa. You are allowed to visit the USA while your application is pending, just don't over stay the visitor visa. Good luck.

[Adil & Jeanne 296]

Volunteering in army????

since when do people not get paid?

if he is with local unit they are paid while in service

Even weekends spent with a reserve unit get paid

after my late husband spent 4 years in Navy, he joined the reserves and was paid enough each month to pay our house payment

[Juliet and Steve 93]

"Would a k visa work if he doesn't have job or enough money to "support us"?

As explained by others, no unless he has a specific amount of assets, or he uses a co-sponsor.

"I am a qualified yoga teacher, beauty therapist and holistic practitioner so I could get work out there or even set up a practice."

You could be a qualified medical doctor and it would not help, it would not be considered. It's the assets/job/sponsor of the petitioner which count. Your skills indeed could be usable to help the two of you survive if, for instance, he finds and then loses a job. People here talk about if you don't have enough--don't do it, but I believe that the "minimum amount" is not necessarily true for everyone. The hard part is getting over the minimum hurdle at the USCIS. For some the co-sponsor is the way to go. If he does volunteer work (unpaid) someone must be helping him survive (food, rent, gas, transportation) perhaps they can co-sponsor.

How much money would I have to have in my bank account to support myself for k visa or marriage?

For monetary assets I think it's about $66-76,000 US for a family of two (3x minimum annual income required). Others have pointed to where you go to figure out the income requirements, or assets or combination. And this assumes that you transfer the $70,000 so it is in his bank or investment account. If it's in your account it won't be of any use.

If we applied could him in allot of trouble?

I can't understand how he'd get in trouble, but if you don't meet the requirements, you get a refusal.

Please don't interpret this wrong but your statement: " BUT he used to have a company, left money with a friend to pay the irs his taxes before he left to travel," to me is a huge red flag.

But a "red flag" is simply a warning to look closely, it does not condemn a person. Yet, in my book nobody ever "leaves a friend with money" to send to the IRS. Why leave money when for a dollar a person can get a money order and mail it, even if they have no checking account. There are few things that scare me in life--the IRS is one. Now this may be reasonable for some scenario that I can't imagine but I'd be very careful about the IRS situation and look into it closely.

And what others have said is true. The IRS will work hand in hand with anyone who comes forward and deals with them openly and honestly. I cannot help but wonder if the IRS thing runs deeper than it might appear. Even if he has been ignoring a debt, I'd suggest that he write, come clean and work out an agreement. Even if he has no current income they will likely only require monthly communication until he has an income. I've a family member who got strung out on substances and who failed to pay taxes, but he straightened out and he tells me that the IRS was actually very good to work with.

I can understand why he doesn't want to go to Ireland, I think his chances for a job there are non-existent. Finding a job in the US is hard enough--but possible still if one works hard at it. Heck, you can earn the minimum $23,000 delivering Pizza for Dominoes (a pizza place in the US). Everyone that I know who has done that earned an average of at least $20/hour including tips. 7days x 4 hrs x $20 x 52 weeks = 29,120.

It may be that he needs to simply knuckle down, give up doing unpaid volunteer work (I have a tenant who makes more than the minimum amount of income annually who is a paid volunteer for Trout Unlimited, but she has a Master's Degree, so it may take that to actually make money within an NGO entity).

You are quite right: "It is all about taxes and money," welcome to an increasingly harsh reality. America is broke (see: USDebtClock.org) and so too is Ireland, it will become more and more about money and taxes as time goes on.

In today's world if you don't have a "real job" you are not considered a real part of society.

I spend most of my life as an artist (a goldsmith/jewelry designer). Back in 2001 I had a loan manager at my local bank where I was trying to get a mortgage come right out and and say: "I know you live fine on your income, I've known you for years, but as far as the bank goes, I must see two years of consistent income (not erratic Schedule C (self-employed) before you will qualify for a mortgage."

I was 51 then and tired of hearing this so I went back to college for just two years, and became an RN at the age of 53. I miss having the luxury of being able to make objects of art today, but I do enjoy having a "real job," a good credit score, and being able to find "real" jobs when I need them.

The world is increasingly (as another poster has already said) a "fish or cut bait," scenario.

It's a rough world out there, I hope you two can work this out.

[lomaca 0]

No not in the army-just a spiritual community.

Volunteering in army????

since when do people not get paid?

if he is with local unit they are paid while in service

Even weekends spent with a reserve unit get paid

after my late husband spent 4 years in Navy, he joined the reserves and was paid enough each month to pay our house payment

[bigdog 377]

i agree when he figures out the plan- get a job, have money, file taxes then apply

[lomaca 0]

Wow what a great response. Thank you so much for taking the time.

Yes I agree it's tough everywhere and in Ireland and Europe especially.so I get that it's easier to be in the states for him and indeed if I got my GC it would be for me too.

Yes it's pretty much unpaid volunteer work he gets a stipen of 125 per week, but you get free food, accommodation and attend various classes.

Get him in trouble I mean with irs....He would like to save some money and then notify irs and pay them back. It really wasn't anything shady he just foolishly was too trusting of his friend. Agreed to allow his friend to borrow some of it but have it all back and sent in when need be but he didn't.He has tried to get it back off him but to no avail....

It's not looking great, but we'll see. Everything happens for a reason.

Warm blessings

&Thank you once again.

"Would a k visa work if he doesn't have job or enough money to "support us"?

As explained by others, no unless he has a specific amount of assets, or he uses a co-sponsor.

"I am a qualified yoga teacher, beauty therapist and holistic practitioner so I could get work out there or even set up a practice."

You could be a qualified medical doctor and it would not help, it would not be considered. It's the assets/job/sponsor of the petitioner which count. Your skills indeed could be usable to help the two of you survive if, for instance, he finds and then loses a job. People here talk about if you don't have enough--don't do it, but I believe that the "minimum amount" is not necessarily true for everyone. The hard part is getting over the minimum hurdle at the USCIS. For some the co-sponsor is the way to go. If he does volunteer work (unpaid) someone must be helping him survive (food, rent, gas, transportation) perhaps they can co-sponsor.

How much money would I have to have in my bank account to support myself for k visa or marriage?

For monetary assets I think it's about $66-76,000 US for a family of two (3x minimum annual income required). Others have pointed to where you go to figure out the income requirements, or assets or combination. And this assumes that you transfer the $70,000 so it is in his bank or investment account. If it's in your account it won't be of any use.

If we applied could him in allot of trouble?

I can't understand how he'd get in trouble, but if you don't meet the requirements, you get a refusal.

Please don't interpret this wrong but your statement: " BUT he used to have a company, left money with a friend to pay the irs his taxes before he left to travel," to me is a huge red flag.

But a "red flag" is simply a warning to look closely, it does not condemn a person. Yet, in my book nobody ever "leaves a friend with money" to send to the IRS. Why leave money when for a dollar a person can get a money order and mail it, even if they have no checking account. There are few things that scare me in life--the IRS is one. Now this may be reasonable for some scenario that I can't imagine but I'd be very careful about the IRS situation and look into it closely.

And what others have said is true. The IRS will work hand in hand with anyone who comes forward and deals with them openly and honestly. I cannot help but wonder if the IRS thing runs deeper than it might appear. Even if he has been ignoring a debt, I'd suggest that he write, come clean and work out an agreement. Even if he has no current income they will likely only require monthly communication until he has an income. I've a family member who got strung out on substances and who failed to pay taxes, but he straightened out and he tells me that the IRS was actually very good to work with.

I can understand why he doesn't want to go to Ireland, I think his chances for a job there are non-existent. Finding a job in the US is hard enough--but possible still if one works hard at it. Heck, you can earn the minimum $23,000 delivering Pizza for Dominoes (a pizza place in the US). Everyone that I know who has done that earned an average of at least $20/hour including tips. 7days x 4 hrs x $20 x 52 weeks = 29,120.

It may be that he needs to simply knuckle down, give up doing unpaid volunteer work (I have a tenant who makes more than the minimum amount of income annually who is a paid volunteer for Trout Unlimited, but she has a Master's Degree, so it may take that to actually make money within an NGO entity).

You are quite right: "It is all about taxes and money," welcome to an increasingly harsh reality. America is broke (see: USDebtClock.org) and so too is Ireland, it will become more and more about money and taxes as time goes on.

In today's world if you don't have a "real job" you are not considered a real part of society.

I spend most of my life as an artist (a goldsmith/jewelry designer). Back in 2001 I had a loan manager at my local bank where I was trying to get a mortgage come right out and and say: "I know you live fine on your income, I've known you for years, but as far as the bank goes, I must see two years of consistent income (not erratic Schedule C (self-employed) before you will qualify for a mortgage."

I was 51 then and tired of hearing this so I went back to college for just two years, and became an RN at the age of 53. I miss having the luxury of being able to make objects of art today, but I do enjoy having a "real job," a good credit score, and being able to find "real" jobs when I need them.

The world is increasingly (as another poster has already said) a "fish or cut bait," scenario.

It's a rough world out there, I hope you two can work this out.