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I tried calling USCIS on this one but couldn't get to a human so I turn here.

My wife wants my mother to write a third party affidavit about our marriage. But as I read it under the Evidence of a Bonifide Marriage;

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship. (Each affidavit must contain the full name and address, date and place of birth of the parson making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete information and details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage.)

So I look up the definition for personal knowledge because it is the key factor. "Cognizance of a circumstance or fact gained directly through firsthand experience or observation." Since my mother doesn't have firsthand experience i.e. she wasn't with me in China to witness my marriage to my wife her information would only be hearsay. Hearsay is incorrect but you know what I mean.

My mother only knows what I have told her and has seen pictures of her.

My question is this, Would it hurt for her to write a letter as long as she is being truthful about where she has got her information? Or, is she qualified to write such a letter?

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She can write something like I am aware that (date) my son married (her name) and I am happy to have her as my daughter in law. etc.....

This will show your family knows of your marriage and approves.



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(Each affidavit must contain the full name and address, date and place of birth of the parson making the affidavit...)

Person, not parson. The distinction is important because you don't need every affidavit to be made by, or contain the personal information of, a member of clergy. ;)


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I tried calling USCIS on this one but couldn't get to a human so I turn here.

My wife wants my mother to write a third party affidavit about our marriage. But as I read it under the Evidence of a Bonifide Marriage;

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship. (Each affidavit must contain the full name and address, date and place of birth of the parson making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner of beneficiary, if any, and complete information and details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage.)

So I look up the definition for personal knowledge because it is the key factor. "Cognizance of a circumstance or fact gained directly through firsthand experience or observation." Since my mother doesn't have firsthand experience i.e. she wasn't with me in China to witness my marriage to my wife her information would only be hearsay. Hearsay is incorrect but you know what I mean.

My mother only knows what I have told her and has seen pictures of her.

My question is this, Would it hurt for her to write a letter as long as she is being truthful about where she has got her information? Or, is she qualified to write such a letter?

Its secondary evidence but for difficult embassies like yours and mine the reason why we rely on affidavits more than say Canada or UK is to show friends and especially immediate family know of our relationship.And approve and on-board with it.

Too many fraud, sham marriages are secretive, they keep everyone out of it and no one knows. Your mom attesting that she knew about you two since such and such a date shows she is knows and approves hopefully. maybe saying a little snippet of a story to tell how she meet your wife (skype, webcam, email).


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Person, not parson. The distinction is important because you don't need every affidavit to be made by, or contain the personal information of, a member of clergy.

Maybe you do and maybe you don't, maybe I was simply spelling phonetically the way we talk 'round cheer. That reminds me of the person who was in the middle of the river drowning. A person on the shore saw the man in his predicament, looked in his car for a rope and all he could find was a roll of twine. He tied a rock to the end of it and threw it out to the man in the river. The man drowning threw it back and said it would never work that they would need a rope. glug... glug... glug...

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