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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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Hello,

At the time of entry in the US (end of 2006) I was 21 of age. I got my GC 1 week after but did not know of the requirement to sign up for Selective Service being an immigrant and not a citizen.

I did not concern myself over the matter until now, I want to apply for citizenship and found out about this requirement. I wish I had done some research about naturalization requirements at my time of entry and not wait 6 years to find out that failing to register with SS would diminish my chances to get the citizenship.

I now know that I have to get a status information letter from SS explaining why I failed to register but I don't know how to prove that did not willfully failed to register.

Some say they were automatically enrolled when they got their GC but I checked the SSS website and there's no record of me. Now they say it's too late to register but I do want to register even if no longer possible at least to show some proof that I didn't register on purpose.

Can I at least show them confirmation that I have tried to register how but can't because I'm over 26?

I've also read that I should have gotten a letter from SS after my entry but I do not recall getting one since my stay at my friend's address was very short (3 or 4 days, can't recall 100%)


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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I'd also like to add that during these years I've had a stable job, paid my taxes on time and was never convicted or commited a felony or even get a parking ticket.


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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How did you obtain a green card, through AoS or by entering on an immigrant visa?

I know that on the I-485 (for AoS) there is a provision near the end which automatically transmits your information to Selective Service for registration if you are a male between the ages of 18 and 25. If you filed for AoS when you were 21 then you should have been automatically registered with SS by USCIS. I do not know if the same provision exists for immigrant visas.

Even if you were not registered through, this is not a lifetime bar to naturalisation. I have asked this very question of immigration attorneys before, and was told that lack of Selective Service registration is not held against you, provided you are at least 31 years of age, since they are only concerned with your previous five years of good moral character. Once five years has elapsed from when you were required to register, it is no longer held against you.

In your case, assuming you cannot obtain proof that you were registered (by AoSing) then you will have to wait until you turn 31 before you can apply for citizenship.


Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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I have obtained my green card through an immigrant visa but I had an AoS from my friend. However there's no record of me on the SSS webpage If I do a query.

Edited by JB007

[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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I have obtained my green card through an immigrant visa but I had an AoS from my friend. However there's no record of me on the SSS webpage If I do a query.

AOS stands for adjustment of status in this instance, not affidavit of support.

What type of immigrant visa did you use to enter the US?


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You may have been already registered when you entered on your immigrant visa.

The Selective Service site is not authoritative and you should call to see if you were registered. The number is 1-888-655-1825.


Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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Thank you guys! I'll contact SSS and hope I was automatically registered.


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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AOS stands for adjustment of status in this instance, not affidavit of support.

What type of immigrant visa did you use to enter the US?

It was a DV (diversity) immigrant visa.


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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I dug up some promising info, source here: http://www.sss.gov/pdfs/anrepfy03.pdf

With the cooperation of the U.S. Citizenship and

Immigration Service, immigrant men who are

accepted for permanent U.S. residence also become

automatically registered with the Selective Service.

Not sure if this applies only to people who have gone through the AoS process or any green card holders but will check tomorrow.


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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I'd be interested to know the answer also.


Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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So I called and it seems they have a match with my first and last name but won't release any data until I give them the address where I've stayed for the first time.

I'll have to call tomorrow since I was not able to remember it on the spot.

Do you think there's a chance the match is mine? I don't believe there are that many people that go by my name and reside in the US...

Edited by JB007

[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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No idea, it would depend upon how many people have your name.

Dig up your old address and find out.


Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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I'm happy to report that I was automatically registered upon my entry by the immigration officer. I can now verify my SSS registration on the sss.gov website.

However, I need to change my address on file to my current one but the online form won't accept my selective service registration number, says only to enter valid digits in the registration number field.

The format looks like this XX-YYYYYYY-Z, tried both with and without dashes and won't work. The person I talked to on the phone told me it's enough to print the webpage display and send it along with N-400 form. Will this suffice?

Thanks!!!!


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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I'm happy to report that I was automatically registered upon my entry by the immigration officer. I can now verify my SSS registration on the sss.gov website.

However, I need to change my address on file to my current one but the online form won't accept my selective service registration number, says only to enter valid digits in the registration number field.

The format looks like this XX-YYYYYYY-Z, tried both with and without dashes and won't work. The person I talked to on the phone told me it's enough to print the webpage display and send it along with N-400 form. Will this suffice?

Thanks!!!!

Weird, SSS number works correctly now...


[Timeline]

10/13/2012 -> N-400 filed

10/19/2012 -> Check cashed

10/22/2012 -> NOA #1 letter received

10/25/2012 -> NOA #2 letter received

11/15/2012 -> Biometrics appointment

11/19/2012 -> Placed in line for interview

01/03/2013 -> Interview letter

02/12/2013 -> Interview passed

02/12/2013 -> Oath ceremony

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Good to hear it was successfully resolved.


Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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