Flier for whites only pastors' conference has residents upset

[rocks 494]

Forgive me but I am a little confused where you (ROCK) are coming from since I never addressed you.

Exactly. I'm as confused as you are. Run Herschel Run quoted me and claimed I said all kinds of things. Seems like he has me confused with Gegel. I just wanted to know what that sentence meant, because it didn't make sense to me.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Forgive me but I am a little confused where you (ROCK) are coming from....

[Danno 1,228]

Exactly. I'm as confused as you are. Run Herschel Run quoted me and claimed I said all kinds of things. Seems like he has me confused with Gegel. I just wanted to know what that sentence meant, because it didn't make sense to me.

Miss quoting is a no-no, it leads to ....... well anyway.

[rocks 494]

Miss quoting is a no-no, it leads to ....... well anyway.

Ok, let us start again.

Catch up to what? Blacks in the South are on par with Blacks in detroit, Chicago and most other places in the North.

And why are not Blacks who live in areas that never had slavery doing remarkably better than Black in the South?

-just a question.

I'm confused by this. Maybe I need to be more clear? Are you implying that the poverty in the south is the same in the north? As you know, Mississippi has much higher poverty than any other state, it also has the largest African American population of any state. Care to explain?

[Danno 1,228]

Ok, let us start again.

I'm confused by this. Maybe I need to be more clear? Are you implying that the poverty in the south is the same in the north? As you know, Mississippi has much higher poverty than any other state, it also has the largest African American population of any state. Care to explain?

POverty?

Compare 12 grade test scores between "ole Mis" which was the heart of segregation and slavery and say detroit or Phili.

Why are not the Black students in Detroit or Oakland on par with Whites or at least remarkably better than the scores of Blacks from the Jim Crown region?

I mean isn't this what we keep hearing..... it was Jim Crown which set these students back? Why in areas where Jim crow never existed nor slavery are not the Black students excelling?

[rocks 494]

POverty?

Compare 12 grade test scores between "ole Mis" which was the heart of segregation and slavery and say detroit or Phili.

Are you implying that black people in the poorest state in the country can afford to go to Ole Miss? Tuition is 22k...

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Ok, let us start again.

I'm confused by this. Maybe I need to be more clear? Are you implying that the poverty in the south is the same in the north? As you know, Mississippi has much higher poverty than any other state, it also has the largest African American population of any state. Care to explain?

Once again your , just wrong. I love you libs. You never let the facts get in the way of a god argument. . Why do the three states listed have higher poverty rates for blacks than Mississippi.. None of those states had slavery.

Poverty Rates for Blacks

Mississippi- 45%

Minnesota- 48%

Idianna-49%

Washington State-48%

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=14&cat=1

[rocks 494]

Once again your , just wrong. I love you libs. You never let the facts get in the way of a god argument. . Why do the three states listed have higher poverty rates for blacks than Mississippi.. None of those states had slavery.

Poverty Rates for Blacks

Mississippi- 45%

Minnesota- 48%

Idianna-49%

Washington State-48%

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=14&cat=1

You right wingers are also very predictable. Perhaps you should read the facts instead of finding some random website with numbers on. Remember, I live in Mississippi, you haven't even visited here.

What you said was "When was the last time a child died of malnutrition". Malnutrition and hunger are two very separate subjects. If you want facts about poverty, here are some facts. Make sure you read them this time.

The latest edition of UNICEF's report on child poverty in developed countries found that 30 million children in 35 of the world's richest countries live in poverty. Among those countries, the United States ranks second on the scale of what economists call "relative child poverty" -- above Latvia, Bulgaria, Spain, Greece, and 29 others. Only Romania ranks higher, with 25.5 percent of its children living in poverty, compared with 23.1 percent in the U.S.

The term "relative child poverty" refers to a child living in a household where the disposable income is less than half of the national median income.

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"Basically, other countries do more," he said. "They tend to have minimum wages that are higher than ours. The children would be covered universally by health insurance. Other countries provide more child care."

CIA World Factbook - United States

The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $48,100.

Child Poverty

Nearly 15 million children in the United States – 21% of all children – live in families with incomes below the federal poverty level – $22,050 a year for a family of four. Research shows that, on average, families need an income of about twice that level to cover basic expenses. Using this standard, 42% of children live in low-income families.

Most of these children have parents who work, but low wages and unstable employment leave their families struggling to make ends meet. Poverty can impede children’s ability to learn and contribute to social, emotional, and behavioral problems. Poverty also can contribute to poor health and mental health. Risks are greatest for children who experience poverty when they are young and/or experience deep and persistent poverty.

Wealth report reveals richest states, poorest states

At the bottom is Mississippi with a staggering poverty rate of 21.3 percent. Mississippi also has the lowest median household income at $36,850

Obesity and Overweight Prevalence among a Mississippi Low-Income Preschool Population: A Five-Year Comparison

Mississippi, a southern state with the highest level of poverty, had the highest adult obesity rates in the USA at 33.8%. In addition, 44.4% of Mississippi children aged 10–17 years of age self-reported as overweight or obese in the 2007 National Survey of Children's Health versus the national rate of 31.6%. More recent measured estimates of Mississippi Kindergarten through 12th grade (K-12) obesity and overweight rates in 2009 indicated a combined rate of 23.9%, not significantly different from the 2007 combined rate of 23.5%.

Malnutrition

It is possible to eat a diet high in calories but containing few vitamins and minerals. This means you can become malnourished, even though you might also be overweight or obese. Being malnourished does not always mean that you are skinny.

Poor and fat

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition recently published a study that found $1 could buy 1,200 calories of potato chips but just 250 calories of vegetables and 170 calories of fresh fruit. And it is also true that Mississippi, the poorest state in the country, is also the fattest.

In fact, the five poorest states are also among the 10 fattest, and eight of the 10 poorest states are also among the 10 with the lowest life expectancy.

I guess one could dismiss this as one big coincidence, but is it also a coincidence that half of the top 10 states with the highest median incomes are also in the top 10 in life expectancy?

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just as there is a link between education and poverty, there appears to be a correlation between poverty and health.

ACT 2010 Condition of College & Career Readiness - Mississippi is ranked bottom in every category.

State Education Data Profiles - Mississippi is far below the national average.

Mississippi Losing The War With Obesity

The problem is most pronounced in the Mississippi Delta — the flat, fertile flood plain fed by the Mississippi River. It's a region with a history as rich as the soil, but with deeply rooted social problems.

In Holmes County, for instance, nearly half the residents live in poverty. And not only is it the state's poorest county; it's also the heaviest. Four out of 10 people in Holmes County are obese. And you see it all around — large kids lumbering to get on the school bus, patients spilling over their seats in the doctor's waiting room.

Dr. David Gilder in Tchula, Miss., frequently sees patients with problems related to obesity — diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure.

The Health Effects of Overweight and Obesity

Coronary heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, Cancers (endometrial, breast, and colon), Hypertension (high blood pressure), Dyslipidemia (for example, high total cholesterol or high levels of triglycerides), Stroke, Liver and Gallbladder disease, Sleep apnea and respiratory problems, Osteoarthritis (a degeneration of cartilage and its underlying bone within a joint), Gynecological problems (abnormal menses, infertility).

Childhood Obesity Facts

Long-term health effects: Overweight and obesity are associated with increased risk for many types of cancer, including cancer of the breast, colon, endometrium, esophagus, kidney, pancreas, gall bladder, thyroid, ovary, cervix, and prostate, as well as multiple myeloma and Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

Diabetes Tops Child Obesity's Health Risks

Closely linked to obesity, type 2 diabetes was once so rare among children that it was called adult onset diabetes. According to the AAP Executive Committee on Endocrinology and doctors nationwide, health professionals are seeing many 12- and 13-year-olds with type 2 diabetes.

Doctors estimate that half of overweight kids will grow up to be overweight adults. Once they've been heavy for many years, experts say, they're at risk for diseases that doctors usually see in people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s.

Chronic Disease Fact Sheet

Cardiovascular Disease is the leading cause of death in Mississippi. 10,195 Mississippians died from CVD in 2007, accounting for 36% of all deaths.

Mississippi's CVD mortality rate is the highest in the nation, with a mortality rate in 2005 that was 25% higher than the U.S. as a whole. More Mississippians die each year from CVD than from all types of cancer, traffic injuries, suicides, and AIDS combined.

Diabetes is a major cause of morbidity, disability, and mortality for Mississippians and a major source of health care costs in the state.

High Blood Pressure (Hypertension): In 2007, the prevalence of hypertension was 33.7%. Approximately 725,000 Mississippi adults are estimated to have hypertension.

Of all states, Mississippi has the eighth highest percentage (19.3%) of adults 18 and over who reported no health care coverage.

Infant Mortality in Mississippi

Mississippi's average infant mortality rate has been around 10 deaths per 1,000 live births in recent years: one of the highest in the nation.

Leading causes of infant mortality:

-Birth defects

-Accidents and maternal difficulties

Protect your baby before it is born:

-Mothers should work to be in good health prior to becoming pregnant: address any chronic medical problems such as high blood pressure or diabetes.

-Get early and continuing prenatal care throughout the entire pregnancy, and follow the advice of your doctor.

Mississippi's Rising Infant Mortality Rate

For young women like Jemeika Brown, transportation is another problem. Now five months pregnant, she hitches rides to Medicaid appointments in Greenville, over 30 miles away.

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Krystal was 17 years old then. Now she's 20, a mother of two, and seven months into a high risk pregnancy. She hasn't yet made it to Greenville to see a doctor. She can't afford the fare. She can't even afford a tombstone for her son.

Out of all the states Mississippi has the highest rate of poverty, the lowest income, the highest rate of adult obesity, the highest rate of child obesity, highest rate of teen pregnancies, the highest rate of deaths from heart disease, lowest ranked education system, and one of the highest rates of infant mortality.

These issues are all interrelated. Poverty is very "real" in this rich country with "the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world".

Not surprisingly, Mississippi also has the highest rate of Children in single-parent families in America, 46% of children. Mississippi also has the highest population of African Americans at 37%.

Mississippi Report on Families

In Mississippi, 9% of married-couple families with related children are below poverty compared to 46% of single-parent families with related children that are below poverty.

31% of children in Mississippi live in poverty (highest in the nation). Further, Mississippi has the highest rate (34%) of children under age 6 living in poverty in the nation, and the highest rate of children living in extreme poverty in the nation (15%).

Mississippi has the highest rate (50%) of children living in families where no parent has full-time, year-round employment.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Catch up to what? Blacks in the South are on par with Blacks in detroit, Chicago and most other places in the North.

And before the Civil Rights Act of 1966 all blacks were in the same situation, which does not mean that life was peachy if you were black.

Seems like he has me confused with Gegel.

I, for one, am flattered. I really like your posts!!!

[Danno 1,228]

You right wingers are also very predictable. Perhaps you should read the facts instead of finding some random website with numbers on. Remember, I live in Mississippi, you haven't even visited here.

Was that a smoke-screen you just threw up with all that infor about how bad it is in Miss?

The point isn't to compare states..... (naturaly the more Black it is the worse the number will be)

THe point was to compare THe progress of Black from former Jim-crow areas to areas which never had Jim-Crow or even slavery.

You were going to prove that Blacks in the south have all this "catching up to do."

It seems Black do poorly in school no matter where they are at or the history of that area regarding blacks.

So if you want to prove your case, simply make or show State by state test scores of BLACK students in those states rather than the states as a whole (which would be meaningless).

[rocks 494]

Was that a smoke-screen you just threw up with all that infor about how bad it is in Miss?

What you said was "ole Mis". Do you think that's a term for the state?

"Ole Miss" is the most expensive college in this state. Perhaps you should do some research before spouting your inaccurate opinion as fact.

Not reading any further than this line because it's evident you messed up with the "ole Mis" comment.

I, for one, am flattered. I really like your posts!!!

Same to you.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

What you said was "ole Mis". Do you think that's a term for the state?

"Ole Miss" is the most expensive college in this state. Perhaps you should do some research before spouting your inaccurate opinion as fact.

Not reading any further than this line because it's evident you messed up with the "ole Mis" comment.

Ole Miss is not the most expensive college in Mississippi not even close. My guess is the only reason you even have heard of the school is because you watched the Blind Side. I will say that Ole Miss has the best football team in Mississippi Of course that is not saying much, they are still always in the basement of the SEC West. The Manning s are cool, but other than that...

[rocks 494]

Ole Miss is not the most expensive college in Mississippi not even close. My guess is the only reason you even have heard of the school is because you watched the Blind Side. I will say that Ole Miss has the best football team in Mississippi Of course that is not saying much, they are still always in the basement of the SEC West. The Manning s are cool, but other than that...

:rofl:

Ole Miss did horribly last season. I hate Ole Miss. Never heard anyone refer to Mississippi as "ole Mis", what a horrible mistake. Clearly he isn't a southerner

Edited July 8, 2012 by rocks

[Darnell 8,480]

Mississippi is like Jan Brewer's knickers - everyone knows where it is but nobody wants to go there

But But...

Jan's got some lovely underbritches. Don't you remember lace-y Thursdays?? I know I remember !!

[Darnell 8,480]

:rofl:

Ole Miss did horribly last season. I hate Ole Miss. Never heard anyone refer to Mississippi as "ole Mis", what a horrible mistake. Clearly he isn't a southerner

ya, my son was at uni at Ole Miss for a year, came back home recently and got into med school in Houston. I enjoyed visiting the campus, especially during home game weekends..