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Hello all, I am new to this website and have found it very useful with many tips and pointers. I live in California and my Fiance in Colombia. I am an American citizen. I am also a Colombian citizen by birth.

I need help on how to respond to question 18 on the the I-129F form. I met my fiance last month in person after months of talking on the phone and chatting online. I dont really understand what the question wants me to answer. "Describe the circumstances under which you met". What do I describe? If we met online? Did I go see her in Colombia? Or what we did while I was in Colombia with her?

Please help as I am stuck...almost like writers block. If anyone has any examples of what they wrote, please share.

Thank you,

Lucho


K1

1/22/07: I-129F sent to CSC

1/23/07: I-129F packet received and signed for at 9:45A.M.!!

1/29/07: NOA1

4/27/07: NOA2

5/01/07: NOA2 Hardcopy received

5/10/07: Approval arrives at NVC

5/14/07: Leaves NVC

5/17/07: Arrives at Bogota, Colombia

5/18/07: Packet 3 faxed to Embassy

5/22/07: Packet 3 sent via courier

5/30/07: Wendy receives packet 3 (Good thing we used the shortcut)

6/04/07: Packet 4 received

7/03/07: Medical appt. scheduled

7/05/07: Interview!!!! VISA APPROVED!!!!!!!

7/09/07: Visa in hand!!!

7/11/07: Point of Entry at LAX, complete success!!!!!!!!!!

7/24/07: Married!!!

AOS & EAD

07/27/07: Filed for AOS & EAD

08/02/07: Arrives at Chicago

09/10/07: NOA1

09/11/07: Social Security card in hand

10/12/07: Biometrics appointment

10/25/07: EAD Approved

01/23/08: Interview = APPROVED

02/02/08: Green Card received...10 day turn around, not bad!!!

Removing Conditions

11/12/09: Mailed to CSC!

11/13/09: Arrives at CSC!

11/16/09: NOA1

11/18/09: Check Cashed!

12/14/09: Biometrics

01/07/10: Card Production Ordered (APPROVED)

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If you met online, just say that. Then include where you met in person.

"Declaration of how you met in person in the last two years. This should be a single typed page regarding question 18 of the I-129F. Make sure to sign and date it."

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I wrote one sentence: "We met in a restaurant in Germany while I was there on vacation with a girlfriend in August 2005."


8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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If you met online, just say that. Then include where you met in person.

"Declaration of how you met in person in the last two years. This should be a single typed page regarding question 18 of the I-129F. Make sure to sign and date it."

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1guide

Thank you for responding. This is what I have down so far.....

I met my fiance online in the month of April 2006. After months of long telephone conversations and chatting online, I traveled to Barranquilla, Colombia on August 24, 2006 to meet Wendy.

Is this enough? I think I need to put more but what?


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1/22/07: I-129F sent to CSC

1/23/07: I-129F packet received and signed for at 9:45A.M.!!

1/29/07: NOA1

4/27/07: NOA2

5/01/07: NOA2 Hardcopy received

5/10/07: Approval arrives at NVC

5/14/07: Leaves NVC

5/17/07: Arrives at Bogota, Colombia

5/18/07: Packet 3 faxed to Embassy

5/22/07: Packet 3 sent via courier

5/30/07: Wendy receives packet 3 (Good thing we used the shortcut)

6/04/07: Packet 4 received

7/03/07: Medical appt. scheduled

7/05/07: Interview!!!! VISA APPROVED!!!!!!!

7/09/07: Visa in hand!!!

7/11/07: Point of Entry at LAX, complete success!!!!!!!!!!

7/24/07: Married!!!

AOS & EAD

07/27/07: Filed for AOS & EAD

08/02/07: Arrives at Chicago

09/10/07: NOA1

09/11/07: Social Security card in hand

10/12/07: Biometrics appointment

10/25/07: EAD Approved

01/23/08: Interview = APPROVED

02/02/08: Green Card received...10 day turn around, not bad!!!

Removing Conditions

11/12/09: Mailed to CSC!

11/13/09: Arrives at CSC!

11/16/09: NOA1

11/18/09: Check Cashed!

12/14/09: Biometrics

01/07/10: Card Production Ordered (APPROVED)

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So you were with another girlfriend on vacation and saw another girl and then this new girl became your fiancee? What happened to the first girlfriend? Did both of you eliminate her? Surely that doesnt sound fair.

I wrote one sentence: "We met in a restaurant in Germany while I was there on vacation with a girlfriend in August 2005."
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I supplied 1 line.

"Met at linkin Park Show in San Diego. Allyson was working as local set up crew and Tim was working on the touring crew."

Additional supporting evidence was also supplied, a few examples:

Her pay stub from the day.

My tour shedule.

A notarised afidavit by petitioner summerizing our relationship thus far - in point form.

All the other ####### - photos, email, palne tickets, passport stamps, credit card receipts.

I left little doubt that we had met.

Still got an RFE - (requesting a copy of a passport stamp that I had already given them. UGHHH!)

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I met my fiance online in the month of April 2006. After months of long telephone conversations and chatting online, I traveled to Barranquilla, Colombia on August 24, 2006 to meet Wendy.

Is this enough? I think I need to put more but what?

How about:

I met my fiance, Wendy, online through (what? chat group? might cause IMBRA questions if not more specfic) in the month of April 2006. After 4 months of long telephone conversations, chatting online, and establishing a relationship, I traveled to Barranquilla, Colombia on August 24, 2006 to meet Wendy.

Might also want to add how long you visited. Be sure to copy your passport pages to send as evidence.

Jen

So you were with another girlfriend on vacation and saw another girl and then this new girl became your fiancee? What happened to the first girlfriend? Did both of you eliminate her? Surely that doesnt sound fair.

I wrote one sentence: "We met in a restaurant in Germany while I was there on vacation with a girlfriend in August 2005."

WHAT? Clearly, you are not paying attention.

On the planet you live on, are men typically named "Jen" and women named "David"?


8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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Thanks Jen,

This sounds better right?

I met my fiance, Wendy, online through a chat in the month of April 2006. After 4 months of long telephone conversations and chatting online, and establishing a relationship, I traveled to Barranquilla, Colombia to meet Wendy. I was in Barranquilla with my fiance from August 24 through September 10, 2006.


K1

1/22/07: I-129F sent to CSC

1/23/07: I-129F packet received and signed for at 9:45A.M.!!

1/29/07: NOA1

4/27/07: NOA2

5/01/07: NOA2 Hardcopy received

5/10/07: Approval arrives at NVC

5/14/07: Leaves NVC

5/17/07: Arrives at Bogota, Colombia

5/18/07: Packet 3 faxed to Embassy

5/22/07: Packet 3 sent via courier

5/30/07: Wendy receives packet 3 (Good thing we used the shortcut)

6/04/07: Packet 4 received

7/03/07: Medical appt. scheduled

7/05/07: Interview!!!! VISA APPROVED!!!!!!!

7/09/07: Visa in hand!!!

7/11/07: Point of Entry at LAX, complete success!!!!!!!!!!

7/24/07: Married!!!

AOS & EAD

07/27/07: Filed for AOS & EAD

08/02/07: Arrives at Chicago

09/10/07: NOA1

09/11/07: Social Security card in hand

10/12/07: Biometrics appointment

10/25/07: EAD Approved

01/23/08: Interview = APPROVED

02/02/08: Green Card received...10 day turn around, not bad!!!

Removing Conditions

11/12/09: Mailed to CSC!

11/13/09: Arrives at CSC!

11/16/09: NOA1

11/18/09: Check Cashed!

12/14/09: Biometrics

01/07/10: Card Production Ordered (APPROVED)

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Thanks Jen,

This sounds better right?

I met my fiance, Wendy, online through a chat in the month of April 2006. After 4 months of long telephone conversations, and chatting online, and establishing a relationship, I traveled to Barranquilla, Colombia to meet Wendy. I was in Barranquilla with my fiance from August 24 through September 10, 2006.

Yes... you've got good specifics now. Just be sure to provide evidence of your trip with your petition. (You don't need the 'and' that I highlighted... just add a comma after 'conversations'. Reads a little better that way.)

Best wishes!

Jen

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8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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So you were with another girlfriend on vacation and saw another girl and then this new girl became your fiancee? What happened to the first girlfriend? Did both of you eliminate her? Surely that doesnt sound fair.

I wrote one sentence: "We met in a restaurant in Germany while I was there on vacation with a girlfriend in August 2005."

:no: Utter Jackassery :no:


July 17 2006 Sent I-129F to TSC

July 19 2006 packet received by TSC

July 27 2006 case received at CSC

July 28 2006 touched (to process/send NOA1)

Aug 01 2006 check cashed

Aug 05 2006 NOA1 received in mail

Oct 03 2006 Touched (RFE sent)

Oct 10 2006 RFE received and responded to

Oct 17 2006 Touched (CSC reply to RFE response)

Nov 06 2006 NOA2

Nov 21 2006 NVC sent to Manila

Blah

Blur

Drone

March 27 2007 Interview

April 02 2007 Visa delivered

April 05 2007 Happiness delivered

April 06 2007 First day of the rest of our lives

"There they go! I must hurry and catch them, for I am their leader."

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So you were with another girlfriend on vacation and saw another girl and then this new girl became your fiancee? What happened to the first girlfriend? Did both of you eliminate her? Surely that doesnt sound fair.

I wrote one sentence: "We met in a restaurant in Germany while I was there on vacation with a girlfriend in August 2005."

:no: Utter Jackassery :no:

:thumbs: Typical of trolls.


8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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I wrote something very much like:

[The fiancé] and I ([my name]) met online in the chat room attached to an Internet-based computer game (at [games site]) in January of 2003. After chatting online and via telephone for over a year, [fiancé] came to visit me in [Caladan's swinging cribtown], [Calastate] in March of 2004. Two years and many visits followed, and on August 20, 2006, we became engaged.

I followed this with a more detailed timeline that corresponded to the evidence I presented.


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Filed: 8/1/07

NOA1:9/7/07

Biometrics: 9/28/07

EAD/AP: 10/17/07

EAD card ordered again (who knows, maybe we got the two-fer deal): 10/23/-7

Transferred to CSC: 10/26/07

Approved: 11/21/07

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lucho

Whilst some write a one line answer in response to Q18 and are subsequently approved; there are some that receive an RFE for a further statement of how they met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship.

Tip:

Use Q18 to describe in some detail in an attachment, of how you met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship. Then the evidence submitted should support those details. Boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel/credit card receipts, rental receipts if ever lived together etc etc are primary evidence. Photos are secondary which support the primary evidence. What one should be aiming for is creating an image in the minds eye of the adjudicator......a complete picture. Look outside the box for evidence that shows you both in the same place at the same time. Each case is different and one should submit evidence accordingly, not just rely on the standard unofficial list.

Whilst evidence of an ongoing relationship such as emails, chat logs, phone bills etc is not a requirement at the initial filing stage, it can be beneficial to those from high fraud countries (eg the philipines) to do so, or if there is anything that could be a red flag that may cause issues at interview stage. This evidence should always be very carefully scrutinised especially emails & chat, to make sure there is nothing mentioned that may be construed in a different way then it is meant.


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If you just say that you met 'online' - expect an RFE like me, USCIS wants to know specifically where online you met, what chat room, was it an online dateing service etc. If it was an online dating serivce, then you need to check to see if it would be considered an "International Marriage Broker". In my case, I do not think IMBRA applied in my case, I wound up writing an explanation as to why, and including the contact information for the website in case the adjuticator thought otherwise.

Bill


I-129f Journey:

2006-07-17 I-129F sent to CSC

2006-07-24 NOA1 (received)

2006-10-05 RFE (received)

2006-10-06 RFE (returned to CSC)

2006-10-23 NOA2

2007-01-29 Visa Approved!

2007-02-17 Ceremony in Thailand

2007-02-21 POE LAX - Fiance and her daughter enter the USA together, Easy-Peasy!

2007-03-05 Wedding in USA

AOS Journey:

2007-06-07 AOS for spouse and daughter sent

2007-06-16 NOA's arrive, (issued on the 13th)

2007-07-05 Biometrics

2007-07-13 Received RFE (Mailed on July 3rd)

2007-08-06 Returned RFE

2007-10-16 Interview date

2007-10-27 Green Cards Received!

ROC (I-751) Journey:

2009-07-24 Joint I-751 for spouse and daughter sent

2009-08-03 Received NOA1 dated 7/27/09

2009-08-03 Received Receipt and one year extension for wife

2009-08-03 Received "Verification Of Incusion Of A Dependent" for step-daughter

2009-08-27 Biometrics

2009-11-13 Green Cards Received

Citizenship Journey:

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Thanks guys, especially for the online chat tip. I will make some more adjustments. Any other tips, please share.


K1

1/22/07: I-129F sent to CSC

1/23/07: I-129F packet received and signed for at 9:45A.M.!!

1/29/07: NOA1

4/27/07: NOA2

5/01/07: NOA2 Hardcopy received

5/10/07: Approval arrives at NVC

5/14/07: Leaves NVC

5/17/07: Arrives at Bogota, Colombia

5/18/07: Packet 3 faxed to Embassy

5/22/07: Packet 3 sent via courier

5/30/07: Wendy receives packet 3 (Good thing we used the shortcut)

6/04/07: Packet 4 received

7/03/07: Medical appt. scheduled

7/05/07: Interview!!!! VISA APPROVED!!!!!!!

7/09/07: Visa in hand!!!

7/11/07: Point of Entry at LAX, complete success!!!!!!!!!!

7/24/07: Married!!!

AOS & EAD

07/27/07: Filed for AOS & EAD

08/02/07: Arrives at Chicago

09/10/07: NOA1

09/11/07: Social Security card in hand

10/12/07: Biometrics appointment

10/25/07: EAD Approved

01/23/08: Interview = APPROVED

02/02/08: Green Card received...10 day turn around, not bad!!!

Removing Conditions

11/12/09: Mailed to CSC!

11/13/09: Arrives at CSC!

11/16/09: NOA1

11/18/09: Check Cashed!

12/14/09: Biometrics

01/07/10: Card Production Ordered (APPROVED)

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