Should states be allowed to defend their own borders?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

And which of those concerns overrides the fact that states are sovereign?

None of them.

Look, the states are run by pretty smart people (most of the time). If there's a need for commerce, it will be met. But does that mean states aren't allowed to defend their own borders in a manner they see fit?

Come on. You're not even trying to hide the fact that you're a one-world fascist.

Our states have had a couple of centuries of evolving into large commodities markets where many states rely heavily on a handful of commodities that they place on the market, creating a huge interdependency that can't easily be ignored or severed. What would Kansas, for example, do with millions of bushels of corn in the context of sovereignty? Enter into trade agreements with its neighboring states? Okay, but there's only so much that those neighboring states could offer to Kansas in return and not likely they would need all that corn.

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Our states have had a couple of centuries of evolving into large commodities markets where many states rely heavily on a handful of commodities that they place on the market, creating a huge interdependency that can't easily be ignored or severed. What would Kansas, for example, do with millions of bushels of corn in the context of sovereignty? Enter into trade agreements with its neighboring states? Okay, but there's only so much that those neighboring states could offer to Kansas in return and not likely they would need all that corn.

That's such a stupid response, I don't even know where to begin.

[luckytxn 2,263]

That's such a stupid response, I don't even know where to begin.

If anyone can I know you could.

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If anyone can I know you could.

It's as if, in Steven's world, resource rich landlocked countries don't exist.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's as if, in Steven's world, resource rich landlocked countries don't exist.

How can isolationists who happen to also embrace free market capitalism reconcile those two opposing ideas?

[luckytxn 2,263]

It's as if, in Steven's world, resource rich landlocked countries don't exist.

He will grow up one day. The learning process takes time for some.

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How can isolationists who happen to also embrace free market capitalism reconcile those two opposing ideas?

Wanting to defend one's sovereignty does not make one an isolationist.

Put the strawmen away and when you're ready to discuss this like an adult let me know.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Yeah, next we'll have internal passports and travel documents. We'll be just like the Tokugawa Shogunate.

[luckytxn 2,263]

Yeah, next we'll have internal passports and travel documents. We'll be just like the Tokugawa Shogunate.

You do know I am sure that it is not fun to have to Google something that I read here in this forum.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

You do know I am sure that it is not fun to have to Google something that I read here in this forum.

Quick break down - it was a period of peace in japan where the country isolated itself from the world. Checkpoints were used to control the population, specifically family heads who might threaten the shogun. By controlling travel, they were able to maintain power until Perry (the US Navy) forced his way into Edo* to open up trade.

* Edo was Tokyo.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Sousuke

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You do know I am sure that it is not fun to have to Google something that I read here in this forum.

It was a mini-series!

[luckytxn 2,263]

Quick break down - it was a period of peace in japan where the country isolated itself from the world. Checkpoints were used to control the population, specifically family heads who might threaten the shogun. By controlling travel, they were able to maintain power until Perry (the US Navy) forced his way into Edo* to open up trade.

* Edo was Tokyo.

Interesting. They should write a book and call it "Shogun".

It was a mini-series!

Must have missed it.

[MyLittlePony 340]

So not fair to the ones on here who have to complete process and if you live next to Mexico the visa process is free. Make me sick we pour tax dollars into a defected border with hole for the illegals can jump in.

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So not fair to the ones on here who have to complete process and if you live next to Mexico the visa process is free. Make me sick we pour tax dollars into a defected border with hole for the illegals can jump in.

It's a fitness program. We make little holes and ask the fat Mexicans to jump in them.

[MyLittlePony 340]

It's a fitness program. We make little holes and ask the fat Mexicans to jump in them.

For English press one. We white folks are already pushed to the back #### is we are out numbered.