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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Does anyone know for sure whether or not we can "black out" personal information in the emails, chat logs, etc. we provide for proof of fiance relationship? I have heard both yes and no. I am just printing out all of our emails, chat logs, etc. and I have over 4000 sheets of paper here to sift through! Does anyone know if it is overkill to print out every single piece of communication? I don't want to have my fiance submit like 10 notebooks of proof if we really don't need to. I also would hate to black stuff out and then get "in trouble" for doing so. If anyone has any experience or information regarding the above I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. I mean it has almost been a year and we communicate every single day so that is a lot of proof. We also are trying to send letters to each other but because of the mail system in his country we rarely get each others mail - will that hurt us or do you think they will take the mail system into consideration? I can't wait for all of this to be over and have my man home with me.


I-129F K1 Fiancée Visa at CSC

1/4/06 ~ Met Online

2/15/06 ~ Got engaged

4/28/06 ~ Visited the love of my life! (The best 2+ weeks of my entire life!)

5/13/06 ~ Had to leave to the US without my love - (no way to describe the pain I felt)

6/5/06 ~ I-129F Sent

6/20/06 ~ NOA1

8/14/06 ~ Touched (response to email I sent stating 'request recieved and will be processed within 30 days)

8/16/06 ~ Touched (email stating letter responding to email was sent) - (after 30 days - still no letter - called USCIS to inform them - they will do inquiry)

9/21/06 ~ Touched (email stating that RFE was mailed to me on 9/20/06 - YES!)

9/25/06 ~ RFE received!!!!!!!!!!

9/26/06 ~ Mailed RFE back to CSC

10/2/06 ~ CSC received RFE

10/3/06 ~ Touched

10/4/06 ~ Touched

10/9/06 ~ Rec'd letter re: inquiry I made 8/14/06-just said I-129F is being reviewed and RFE rec'd by CSC

10/17/06 ~ NOA2 (Touched)

10/19/06 ~ Touched

10/27/06 ~ (Rec'd notice via email on 10/27/06 that NOA2 was 10/17/06 - should be in the mail!) Thank you Lord!

10/30/06 ~ Rec'd NOA2 in mail

11/1/06 ~ NVC rec'd NOA2

11/6/06 ~ NVC assigned new case # and sent to Lagos Consulate

11/11/06 ~ Rec'd NVC letter in mail

11/13/06 ~ Charles went to embassy - got Pkts 3 & 4

****Awaiting interview date set for 2/7/2007****

2/7/07 ~ APPROVED!!!! MY BABY IS COMING HOME!!!!

2/13/07 ~ Picked up visa at Embassy

2/21/07 ~ My baby and I are on our way home together!!!

2/22/07 ~ We are finally home in the US!

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I sent a few emails that my then fiancé had sent to me at work...nothing to black out in those. We didn't send chat logs...we sent plane ticket stubs, pages out of our passports, photos, that's about it. We didn't overkill, we figured why send them so much information to wade through, yanno?


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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I sent a few emails that my then fiancé had sent to me at work...nothing to black out in those. We didn't send chat logs...we sent plane ticket stubs, pages out of our passports, photos, that's about it. We didn't overkill, we figured why send them so much information to wade through, yanno?

Was this at the interview stage or for the initial I-129F packet? I am trying to prepare ahead of time for my fiance's interview so that is why I am thinking I have to send more than what I did with the original application.


I-129F K1 Fiancée Visa at CSC

1/4/06 ~ Met Online

2/15/06 ~ Got engaged

4/28/06 ~ Visited the love of my life! (The best 2+ weeks of my entire life!)

5/13/06 ~ Had to leave to the US without my love - (no way to describe the pain I felt)

6/5/06 ~ I-129F Sent

6/20/06 ~ NOA1

8/14/06 ~ Touched (response to email I sent stating 'request recieved and will be processed within 30 days)

8/16/06 ~ Touched (email stating letter responding to email was sent) - (after 30 days - still no letter - called USCIS to inform them - they will do inquiry)

9/21/06 ~ Touched (email stating that RFE was mailed to me on 9/20/06 - YES!)

9/25/06 ~ RFE received!!!!!!!!!!

9/26/06 ~ Mailed RFE back to CSC

10/2/06 ~ CSC received RFE

10/3/06 ~ Touched

10/4/06 ~ Touched

10/9/06 ~ Rec'd letter re: inquiry I made 8/14/06-just said I-129F is being reviewed and RFE rec'd by CSC

10/17/06 ~ NOA2 (Touched)

10/19/06 ~ Touched

10/27/06 ~ (Rec'd notice via email on 10/27/06 that NOA2 was 10/17/06 - should be in the mail!) Thank you Lord!

10/30/06 ~ Rec'd NOA2 in mail

11/1/06 ~ NVC rec'd NOA2

11/6/06 ~ NVC assigned new case # and sent to Lagos Consulate

11/11/06 ~ Rec'd NVC letter in mail

11/13/06 ~ Charles went to embassy - got Pkts 3 & 4

****Awaiting interview date set for 2/7/2007****

2/7/07 ~ APPROVED!!!! MY BABY IS COMING HOME!!!!

2/13/07 ~ Picked up visa at Embassy

2/21/07 ~ My baby and I are on our way home together!!!

2/22/07 ~ We are finally home in the US!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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I think it's advisable to get input from other members going through Nigeria - try the regional forum.

Thank you


I-129F K1 Fiancée Visa at CSC

1/4/06 ~ Met Online

2/15/06 ~ Got engaged

4/28/06 ~ Visited the love of my life! (The best 2+ weeks of my entire life!)

5/13/06 ~ Had to leave to the US without my love - (no way to describe the pain I felt)

6/5/06 ~ I-129F Sent

6/20/06 ~ NOA1

8/14/06 ~ Touched (response to email I sent stating 'request recieved and will be processed within 30 days)

8/16/06 ~ Touched (email stating letter responding to email was sent) - (after 30 days - still no letter - called USCIS to inform them - they will do inquiry)

9/21/06 ~ Touched (email stating that RFE was mailed to me on 9/20/06 - YES!)

9/25/06 ~ RFE received!!!!!!!!!!

9/26/06 ~ Mailed RFE back to CSC

10/2/06 ~ CSC received RFE

10/3/06 ~ Touched

10/4/06 ~ Touched

10/9/06 ~ Rec'd letter re: inquiry I made 8/14/06-just said I-129F is being reviewed and RFE rec'd by CSC

10/17/06 ~ NOA2 (Touched)

10/19/06 ~ Touched

10/27/06 ~ (Rec'd notice via email on 10/27/06 that NOA2 was 10/17/06 - should be in the mail!) Thank you Lord!

10/30/06 ~ Rec'd NOA2 in mail

11/1/06 ~ NVC rec'd NOA2

11/6/06 ~ NVC assigned new case # and sent to Lagos Consulate

11/11/06 ~ Rec'd NVC letter in mail

11/13/06 ~ Charles went to embassy - got Pkts 3 & 4

****Awaiting interview date set for 2/7/2007****

2/7/07 ~ APPROVED!!!! MY BABY IS COMING HOME!!!!

2/13/07 ~ Picked up visa at Embassy

2/21/07 ~ My baby and I are on our way home together!!!

2/22/07 ~ We are finally home in the US!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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Also, I don't think it's necessary to have every single piece of evidence printed out. Select e-mails/chat logs/letters that show content that would prove that you are indeed in a relationship. Personally, I think it's best to avoid blacking out stuff and going with the ones that wouldn't need any editing, as blacking out might rise questions - especially if you're dealing with a high fraud post (not sure whether Nigeria is one).

Edited by Mew

I only offer advice - not even legal. Just the plain and simple kind.

Timeline (incompleta)

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I have not been through the interview stage yet. That being said, I know that if I received evidence of any kind that had areas that had been blacked out, then the first thing that would come to my mind is "what is this person trying to hide".

I agree with Mew - only send what does not need to be blacked out and definitely do not send all 4000 pages. Just pick a few over the period.

Good luck!

Mo


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Thank you all for the information. It is very helpful. I was under the impression that you had to submit EVERYTHING. I felt sick at the thought of someone reading our "intimate" correspondence because some stuff you just don't need to share with others, especially strangers. It's embarassing. But if that is what I had to do to get my honey here with me - then I would let them read away - LOL! Thanks again!


I-129F K1 Fiancée Visa at CSC

1/4/06 ~ Met Online

2/15/06 ~ Got engaged

4/28/06 ~ Visited the love of my life! (The best 2+ weeks of my entire life!)

5/13/06 ~ Had to leave to the US without my love - (no way to describe the pain I felt)

6/5/06 ~ I-129F Sent

6/20/06 ~ NOA1

8/14/06 ~ Touched (response to email I sent stating 'request recieved and will be processed within 30 days)

8/16/06 ~ Touched (email stating letter responding to email was sent) - (after 30 days - still no letter - called USCIS to inform them - they will do inquiry)

9/21/06 ~ Touched (email stating that RFE was mailed to me on 9/20/06 - YES!)

9/25/06 ~ RFE received!!!!!!!!!!

9/26/06 ~ Mailed RFE back to CSC

10/2/06 ~ CSC received RFE

10/3/06 ~ Touched

10/4/06 ~ Touched

10/9/06 ~ Rec'd letter re: inquiry I made 8/14/06-just said I-129F is being reviewed and RFE rec'd by CSC

10/17/06 ~ NOA2 (Touched)

10/19/06 ~ Touched

10/27/06 ~ (Rec'd notice via email on 10/27/06 that NOA2 was 10/17/06 - should be in the mail!) Thank you Lord!

10/30/06 ~ Rec'd NOA2 in mail

11/1/06 ~ NVC rec'd NOA2

11/6/06 ~ NVC assigned new case # and sent to Lagos Consulate

11/11/06 ~ Rec'd NVC letter in mail

11/13/06 ~ Charles went to embassy - got Pkts 3 & 4

****Awaiting interview date set for 2/7/2007****

2/7/07 ~ APPROVED!!!! MY BABY IS COMING HOME!!!!

2/13/07 ~ Picked up visa at Embassy

2/21/07 ~ My baby and I are on our way home together!!!

2/22/07 ~ We are finally home in the US!

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Thank you all for the information. It is very helpful. I was under the impression that you had to submit EVERYTHING. I felt sick at the thought of someone reading our "intimate" correspondence because some stuff you just don't need to share with others, especially strangers. It's embarassing. But if that is what I had to do to get my honey here with me - then I would let them read away - LOL! Thanks again!

I know what you mean, and i blacked out plenty on the evidence we sent. I believe they have somewhat of a respect for privacy at USCIS.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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I know what you mean, and i blacked out plenty on the evidence we sent. I believe they have somewhat of a respect for privacy at USCIS.

Charles' Angel is preparing evidence of ongoing relationship for the interview, and not of having met to send USCIS.


I only offer advice - not even legal. Just the plain and simple kind.

Timeline (incompleta)

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Thailand
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What I did was use YEmote-Offline Offline Arcive Viewer (for Yahoo Messenger) that showed pages for each day a chat log existed, then one sample page of chat from each month. You should be able to be selective enough going that route not to give them anything 'too' personal. I did the same on my email box, I did a search of my 'from and to' mail boxes just showing each day a mail was sent, and then included a few select examples.

The only thing I got an RFE for was had nothing to do with evidnece of our relationship, but for evidence of our actual meeting. I failed to include copies of my bank and credit card statements for the time I was in Thailand.

Others have goten by with much less, others have sent alot more - some say I got the RFE for sending too much, others for not enough - hard to say.

Whether or not they ask you for more I think has alot to do with the adjudicator, the country of your fiance, and other factors which we simply dont know but can only speculate about.

My personal observation has been that people who send tons of evidence, (even in one case as shipping box full of 'unsolicited' evdence was sent and got approved in less than 30 days), get approved faster and with less instances of an RFE going out , but you'll find plenty of people who disagree with me on this point.

The only two recommendations of attorneys I've seen posted, both said the same thing 'bury them with evidence' - and thats the side of the issue I come down on.

Bill

Edited by TucsonBill

I-129f Journey:

2006-07-17 I-129F sent to CSC

2006-07-24 NOA1 (received)

2006-10-05 RFE (received)

2006-10-06 RFE (returned to CSC)

2006-10-23 NOA2

2007-01-29 Visa Approved!

2007-02-17 Ceremony in Thailand

2007-02-21 POE LAX - Fiance and her daughter enter the USA together, Easy-Peasy!

2007-03-05 Wedding in USA

AOS Journey:

2007-06-07 AOS for spouse and daughter sent

2007-06-16 NOA's arrive, (issued on the 13th)

2007-07-05 Biometrics

2007-07-13 Received RFE (Mailed on July 3rd)

2007-08-06 Returned RFE

2007-10-16 Interview date

2007-10-27 Green Cards Received!

ROC (I-751) Journey:

2009-07-24 Joint I-751 for spouse and daughter sent

2009-08-03 Received NOA1 dated 7/27/09

2009-08-03 Received Receipt and one year extension for wife

2009-08-03 Received "Verification Of Incusion Of A Dependent" for step-daughter

2009-08-27 Biometrics

2009-11-13 Green Cards Received

Citizenship Journey:

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BTW I could not actually select 'print' for the page from the advanced searches, I just used a simple screen shot utility to print the inexes, you might be able to use a print screen function too. I included a detailed explanatin of what the screen shots were showing.

Bll

Edited by TucsonBill

I-129f Journey:

2006-07-17 I-129F sent to CSC

2006-07-24 NOA1 (received)

2006-10-05 RFE (received)

2006-10-06 RFE (returned to CSC)

2006-10-23 NOA2

2007-01-29 Visa Approved!

2007-02-17 Ceremony in Thailand

2007-02-21 POE LAX - Fiance and her daughter enter the USA together, Easy-Peasy!

2007-03-05 Wedding in USA

AOS Journey:

2007-06-07 AOS for spouse and daughter sent

2007-06-16 NOA's arrive, (issued on the 13th)

2007-07-05 Biometrics

2007-07-13 Received RFE (Mailed on July 3rd)

2007-08-06 Returned RFE

2007-10-16 Interview date

2007-10-27 Green Cards Received!

ROC (I-751) Journey:

2009-07-24 Joint I-751 for spouse and daughter sent

2009-08-03 Received NOA1 dated 7/27/09

2009-08-03 Received Receipt and one year extension for wife

2009-08-03 Received "Verification Of Incusion Of A Dependent" for step-daughter

2009-08-27 Biometrics

2009-11-13 Green Cards Received

Citizenship Journey:

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Sorry for being such an idiot - hehe - you're getting ready for the INTERVIEW (ya, I admit to being an idiot sometimes :P) - I plan to do the same thing for the interview though. I will include a cover letter just stating that the evidence already submitted supports the ongoing relationship up until the I-129F was sent. The new evidence will support just the continuing ongoing relationship since the !-129F was sent.

Sorry for not reading your posts more thoroughly.

Bill

Edited by TucsonBill

I-129f Journey:

2006-07-17 I-129F sent to CSC

2006-07-24 NOA1 (received)

2006-10-05 RFE (received)

2006-10-06 RFE (returned to CSC)

2006-10-23 NOA2

2007-01-29 Visa Approved!

2007-02-17 Ceremony in Thailand

2007-02-21 POE LAX - Fiance and her daughter enter the USA together, Easy-Peasy!

2007-03-05 Wedding in USA

AOS Journey:

2007-06-07 AOS for spouse and daughter sent

2007-06-16 NOA's arrive, (issued on the 13th)

2007-07-05 Biometrics

2007-07-13 Received RFE (Mailed on July 3rd)

2007-08-06 Returned RFE

2007-10-16 Interview date

2007-10-27 Green Cards Received!

ROC (I-751) Journey:

2009-07-24 Joint I-751 for spouse and daughter sent

2009-08-03 Received NOA1 dated 7/27/09

2009-08-03 Received Receipt and one year extension for wife

2009-08-03 Received "Verification Of Incusion Of A Dependent" for step-daughter

2009-08-27 Biometrics

2009-11-13 Green Cards Received

Citizenship Journey:

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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For emails: only the ones that could prove your relationship. You don't have to print them all... coz it cost time to read all of them and visa officers might not like that.

Dated pictures are the best evidences IMO.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Sorry for being such an idiot - hehe - you're getting ready for the INTERVIEW (ya, I admit to being an idiot sometimes :P) - I plan to do the same thing for the interview though. I will include a cover letter just stating that the evidence already submitted supports the ongoing relationship up until the I-129F was sent. The new evidence will support just the continuing ongoing relationship since the !-129F was sent.

Sorry for not reading your posts more thoroughly.

Bill

You are sooooooooooooooo not an idiot! LOL! Thank you and everyone else for more than enough information to put my mind at rest about this issue. And I am sure several trees feel more at ease now that I know all of this - LOL! I wish all of you the best with your loved ones.


I-129F K1 Fiancée Visa at CSC

1/4/06 ~ Met Online

2/15/06 ~ Got engaged

4/28/06 ~ Visited the love of my life! (The best 2+ weeks of my entire life!)

5/13/06 ~ Had to leave to the US without my love - (no way to describe the pain I felt)

6/5/06 ~ I-129F Sent

6/20/06 ~ NOA1

8/14/06 ~ Touched (response to email I sent stating 'request recieved and will be processed within 30 days)

8/16/06 ~ Touched (email stating letter responding to email was sent) - (after 30 days - still no letter - called USCIS to inform them - they will do inquiry)

9/21/06 ~ Touched (email stating that RFE was mailed to me on 9/20/06 - YES!)

9/25/06 ~ RFE received!!!!!!!!!!

9/26/06 ~ Mailed RFE back to CSC

10/2/06 ~ CSC received RFE

10/3/06 ~ Touched

10/4/06 ~ Touched

10/9/06 ~ Rec'd letter re: inquiry I made 8/14/06-just said I-129F is being reviewed and RFE rec'd by CSC

10/17/06 ~ NOA2 (Touched)

10/19/06 ~ Touched

10/27/06 ~ (Rec'd notice via email on 10/27/06 that NOA2 was 10/17/06 - should be in the mail!) Thank you Lord!

10/30/06 ~ Rec'd NOA2 in mail

11/1/06 ~ NVC rec'd NOA2

11/6/06 ~ NVC assigned new case # and sent to Lagos Consulate

11/11/06 ~ Rec'd NVC letter in mail

11/13/06 ~ Charles went to embassy - got Pkts 3 & 4

****Awaiting interview date set for 2/7/2007****

2/7/07 ~ APPROVED!!!! MY BABY IS COMING HOME!!!!

2/13/07 ~ Picked up visa at Embassy

2/21/07 ~ My baby and I are on our way home together!!!

2/22/07 ~ We are finally home in the US!

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