Is this offensive?

[Welshcookie 17]

I predict many people of all faiths/backgrounds will die.... it happens every day from various causes... death is not something mankind can escape

Well I actually meant that catholics will become yet another target....

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

How many divisions does the pope have?

[PlatyPius 5]

I predict many people of all faiths/backgrounds will die.... it happens every day from various causes... death is not something mankind can escape

Well I actually meant that catholics will become yet another target....

Yup, see above.

[Chris-n-Veronica 0]

Thank God Christians know how to turn their other Cheek.. Or there would be alot more bloodshed everyday..

As the kindengarden song goes...Sticks and stone can break my bones but words can never hurt me..

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

How many divisions does the pope have?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

How many divisions does the pope have?

Judging by the various furores over Abortion, Pre-marital sex and Homosexual Marriage that take place in this country on a frequent basis - I'd say quite a few people listen to him.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

How many divisions does the pope have?

Judging by the various furores over Abortion, Pre-marital sex and Homosexual Marriage that take place in this country on a frequent basis - I'd say quite a few people listen to him.

wrong..........try again. i'll give you a hint.......josef

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

How many divisions does the pope have?

Judging by the various furores over Abortion, Pre-marital sex and Homosexual Marriage that take place in this country on a frequent basis - I'd say quite a few people listen to him.

wrong..........try again. i'll give you a hint.......josef

No - I'm not playing your semantic word game today.

The pope is an influential public figure, who's views define and inform those of a great many people around the world.

Edited September 17, 2006 by erekose

[zzerous 0]

Unfortunately this man represents the church and he knows what and why he says what he say. He is not just a man. And I totally I agree that not all Catholics or Christians believe in what he says, the pressure is not on the western world or Christians is on their leaders who are desperately trying to poison the bridges between cultures and religion. The pope ignored history and acted as if he is innocent and people took his speech out of context.

He ignored the 500 years of crusade in the middle east when his church and by the name of God killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of Muslims and eastern christens and stole their land and wealth for over hundred years. the pope ignored when in the last century the over hundred years when the west occupied the Arab/ Muslim land and killed hundred of thousands, I never heard an apology or a comment for that.

He also ignored the Holocaust which happened in Europe and in his own country killing innocent people and again in the name of God and because they are different. Any by the way the Jew sought refuge with many Muslim Khalif's (leaders) when they ran away from the discrimination and the killing that was waged against them in Europe- go the National Museum of History in NY and read the testaments from many of the Jewish rabaies.

He claims that Islam forces itself by war, please let him or anyone else go back to history and count the number of wars between Muslims and others and tell me where it happened; in Europe or in the East? And who moved armies to fight whom.

The pope ignored the many years of killing his church initiated against the Eastern Church killing many thousands of their leaders unless they submit to the pope in Rome.

And if Muslims are so cruel and forceful, how come we still have many Christians living among us in the Arab World with their own churches and getting the full support from Muslim /Arab government. As a matter of fact we have an entire country (Lebanon) who by the constitution must have a Christian president.

And No we do not want the western world to be sensitive to our needs or around us or stop your celebrations. Your religion and celebrations do not offend us as matter of fact we Muslims believe equally in Muses, Jesus and Mohammed; they are all brothers and messenger of God. What offended us is what some the western leaders and recently church leaders lie about our religion and prophet. And what offend us more is when they play innocent and ignorant.

I urge you to read more and do your own research

Edited September 17, 2006 by zzerous

[PlatyPius 5]

The pope ignored history and acted as if he is innocent and people took his speech out of context.

They DID take his speech out of context.

And don't try the "Pope Lover" thing on me. I'm atheist, and couldn't care less what the Pope condones or doesn't.

He also ignored the Holocaust which happened in Europe and in his own country killing innocent people and again in the name of God and because they are different.

What the hell does the holocaust have to do with God? Hitler wasn't exactly a Xian.

He claims that Islam forces itself by war

No....the book he was quoting, which was written in the 1340s, said that, not the Pope.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I urge you to read more and do your own research

Certainly. When you consider that most of the issues of the day are defined by so called "primary definers", rather than people actually thinking for themselves. Isn't that why, for instance, so many people take smear campaigns so seriously at election time. It's never about the issues, but about how bad you can make the other guy look.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

Pope remarks reveal harder stance

How many divisions does the pope have?

Judging by the various furores over Abortion, Pre-marital sex and Homosexual Marriage that take place in this country on a frequent basis - I'd say quite a few people listen to him.

wrong..........try again. i'll give you a hint.......josef

No - I'm not playing your semantic word game today.

The pope is an influential public figure, who's views define and inform those of a great many people around the world.

awww. it was stalin. thought you woulda got that one. he's the one who made that remark about the pope's powers but thanks for playing

[incanada1234 0]

well.........

*ehem*

personally, i'm offended by this overwhelming pressure for the western world to accept islam as legitimate and good. since when is 'tolerance' equal to 'submission"?

do muslim leaders every single day say things that are offensive to Christians? you betcha. but......do you see millions of Christians rioting in the streets? do you see televised broadcasts of the beheadings of muslims who are captured and in prison?

of course, that's just my opinion, which, by the way, was solicited.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

What do you think..............

Take a vote, yes or no (NO MAYBE!)

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

pope 9/14/07

P

No, since it's still a true statement.

[mmmbop1976 1]

Unfortunately this man represents the church and he knows what and why he says what he say. He is not just a man. And I totally I agree that not all Catholics or Christians believe in what he says, the pressure is not on the western world or Christians is on their leaders who are desperately trying to poison the bridges between cultures and religion. The pope ignored history and acted as if he is innocent and people took his speech out of context.

He ignored the 500 years of crusade in the middle east when his church and by the name of God killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of Muslims and eastern christens and stole their land and wealth for over hundred years. the pope ignored when in the last century the over hundred years when the west occupied the Arab/ Muslim land and killed hundred of thousands, I never heard an apology or a comment for that.

He also ignored the Holocaust which happened in Europe and in his own country killing innocent people and again in the name of God and because they are different. Any by the way the Jew sought refuge with many Muslim Khalif's (leaders) when they ran away from the discrimination and the killing that was waged against them in Europe- go the National Museum of History in NY and read the testaments from many of the Jewish rabaies.

He claims that Islam forces itself by war, please let him or anyone else go back to history and count the number of wars between Muslims and others and tell me where it happened; in Europe or in the East? And who moved armies to fight whom.

The pope ignored the many years of killing his church initiated against the Eastern Church killing many thousands of their leaders unless they submit to the pope in Rome.

And if Muslims are so cruel and forceful, how come we still have many Christians living among us in the Arab World with their own churches and getting the full support from Muslim /Arab government. As a matter of fact we have an entire country (Lebanon) who by the constitution must have a Christian president.

And No we do not want the western world to be sensitive to our needs or around us or stop your celebrations. Your religion and celebrations do not offend us as matter of fact we Muslims believe equally in Muses, Jesus and Mohammed; they are all brothers and messenger of God. What offended us is what some the western leaders and recently church leaders lie about our religion and prophet. And what offend us more is when they play innocent and ignorant.

I urge you to read more and do your own research

I believe Pope John Paul II apologized for the crusades and all religious wars started by the church. but your talking about history. in this present day you don't see the anger from christians when their religion is offended in some way. you might see some local protests by individuals, but when, for example, sinead o'connor tore up a picture of the pope on stage one time you didn't see catholic priests leading protests and calling for her to be hanged. but in the news today i heard that clerics in iran have closed schools and universities so that they could participate in protests against the pope. there have been calls for the pope to be hanged. a nun was killed today in retaliation. churches were firebombed in jerusalem. angry muslim mobs were all over tv yesterday. why all this anger? you call your religion a peaceful, non-violent religion. does that only apply as long as nobody says anything that you percieve as disparaging to islam? i'm sorry, but i'm not buying the "peaceful, non-violent religion" mantra anymore. actions speak louder than words, and what i saw on tv looked to be anything but peaceful and non-violent.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Perhaps it should be pointed out that leaving aside religion, there are significant cultural and political differences between "Muslim" and "Christian" countries. Why it always comes down to religion, and not these other factors - never ceases to surprise me.

Political repression, lack of education etc are what fuels fundamentalist interpretations of islam, but that really doesn't imply that Islam is an inherently "hateful" religion.

After all, the likes of KKK (for example) could hardly be called rocket scientists could they?