Bush lied??

[Scott & Lai 12]

Are you sure?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540

[Ban Hammer 14,299]

Are you sure?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540

good read.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Where shall we start?

How about here...

Lie: We Do Not Engage in Torture

We are finding terrorists and bringing them to justice. We are gathering information about where the terrorists may be hiding. We are trying to disrupt their plots and plans. Anything we do ... to that end in this effort, any activity we conduct, is within the law. We do not torture." - President Bush (Nov. 7, 2005).

Facts

The State Department's annual report on human rights practices worldwide has condemned countries such as Burma and North Korea for the disappearance and indefinite detention of political prisoners without trial; while also condemning Libya, Syria and other countries for engaging in acts of torture that include hooding, stripping detainees naked, sleep deprivation, subjecting detainees to extremes of heat, cold, noise and light, threatening them with dogs, submerging them in water to simulate drowning — which is known as water-boarding — and other acts of physical abuse all of which have occured at U.S. detention facilities. See State Dept. Study Cites Torture of Prisoners: Rumself Approved Similar Practices (Washington Post March 10, 2005).

In addition, post-World War II Japanese war crimes tribunals found that both the Japanese soldiers engaging in water-boarding and the officers who approved it were guilty of war crimes.

Need any more and I'll be happy to post them here for you.

[Alex+R 0]

Are you sure?

Yes.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Are you sure?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007540

Yes, I am. No other than Bush and his blood thirsty administration have hindered the US weapons inspectors in completing their assignment. He called the UN and told them to pull their guys out before we are going in. What did the UN inspectors not do at the time? They didn't find the weapons that weren't there.

Saddam and 9/11 link, anyone? Among others, VJ's own ual777 still believes this fairy tale that has been quite professionally planted into the heads of many Americans.

Oh don't get me stated on this lying sack of #######...

[Scott & Lai 12]

Have you all read the article?

[type2negative 0]

Have you all read the article?

Do they need to read it to say that it full of bull???..

Wow, I thought you already know that facts are not vital for leftist propagandists.

Feelings are.

[dalegg 143]

Scott must be bored.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Have you all read the article?

Well, unless it re-invents history the facts stand.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Have you all read the article?

Well, unless it re-invents history the facts stand.

So that's a no, then...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Have you all read the article?

Well, unless it re-invents history the facts stand.

So that's a no, then...

It's a partial yes. I started and got sick of the nonsense...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Have you all read the article?

No offense, but it is bloody long. Perhaps you could highlight what point you are trying to make. Incidentally,

the author is a known member of the PNAC, so he's not just some journalist making a commentary.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Have you all read the article?

No offense, but it is bloody long. Perhaps you could highlight what point you are trying to make. Incidentally,

the author is a known member of the PNAC, so he's not just some journalist making a commentary.

The point is he didn't lie about the reasons for the war in Iraq.

[Fuzzness 2]

Have you all read the article?

No offense, but it is bloody long. Perhaps you could highlight what point you are trying to make. Incidentally,

the author is a known member of the PNAC, so he's not just some journalist making a commentary.

The point is he didn't lie about the reasons for the war in Iraq.

he didnt? then where are the wmd's?

[Scott & Lai 12]

Whether or not there were in fact WMD's in the months leading up to the war, and whether or not Bush and many others believed that there were WMD's are two different questions.