Are you sick of highly paid teachers? It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!

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(I can already see the RWNs nodding their heads in agreement for the first couple lines and then going )

Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend

before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.

However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....

That's $585 X 180= $105,300

per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an

hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter

and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Make a teacher smile; repost this to show appreciation for all educators.

Edited February 21, 2011 by Lord Infamous

[Ban Hammer 12,853]

it's not so much teacher wages i have an issue with, it's the administrative bunch that goes with it. someone had posted a graph in the past about how there's more people working in the schools than before. like how much support staff do they need?

[Zero Sum 305]

it's not so much teacher wages i have an issue with, it's the administrative bunch that goes with it. someone had posted a graph in the past about how there's more people working in the schools than before. like how much support staff do they need?

Support staff being one thing. But seriously, is a school board president that makes close to an even million worth the salary?

Same goes for anyone making an obsene amount of money they will never spend.

[Ban Hammer 12,853]

Support staff being one thing. But seriously, is a school board president that makes close to an even million worth the salary?

Same goes for anyone making an obsene amount of money they will never spend.

around here, the average household income is about mid 40's. if you're the administrator of a school, you're about 3 times that. now what on earth could an administrator be doing that's so freaking important to be earning that much?

[Zero Sum 305]

around here, the average household income is about mid 40's. if you're the administrator of a school, you're about 3 times that. now what on earth could an administrator be doing that's so freaking important to be earning that much?

Admin as in a school principal? 120K where? Pretty snappy. I want in! When I taught the principal made a little less than 2X what we made, and it wasn't much. And us instructional staff were unionized. Granted, in my opinion school admin have jobs that are more important than, say, a baseball, basketball, or football player in a professional league, and the comparison is definitely logical... but still. Crazy.

[B_J 2,752]

The principal at my school makes around $85,000. The superintendent of schools (overseeing about 350 total teachers + other staff) makes $149,000, with other benefits. I make $51,343. Feel free to mock my puny salary.

[Ban Hammer 12,853]

Admin as in a school principal? 120K where? Pretty snappy. I want in! When I taught the principal made a little less than 2X what we made, and it wasn't much. And us instructional staff were unionized. Granted, in my opinion school admin have jobs that are more important than, say, a baseball, basketball, or football player in a professional league, and the comparison is definitely logical... but still. Crazy.

above school principle. pretty hefty pay for around here.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The principal at my school makes around $85,000. The superintendent of schools (overseeing about 350 total teachers + other staff) makes $149,000, with other benefits. I make $51,343. Feel free to mock my puny salary.

FREELOADER!

[B_J 2,752]

[one...two...tree 2,762]

BJ, in all seriousness - how long have you been a teacher? Do you live in a right-to-work state? Do you think your teacher's union has negotiated for fair wages and benefits?

[B_J 2,752]

BJ, in all seriousness - how long have you been a teacher? Do you live in a right-to-work state? Do you think your teacher's union has negotiated for fair wages and benefits?

I've got 17 years experience. The actual state minimum for that level of experience is 42,510, but my district, like most, pays above the state minimum. Texas is a right to work state, so of course that puts us in a different position than other teacher groups. We don't negotiate contracts. The school board sets the contract and that's it. We can't strike or anything like that. Honestly, even if we could strike, I'm not sure I could do it. I still kind of feel like what I do matters too much for me to walk out on my kids. Or maybe it's just I've always been in this state and I've never experienced anything different.

In case you want more info. In my district, the salaries start at 42,184 and max out at 58,647. The max is at 27 years and after that you don't get any more increases. The district pays $200 per month for our insurance. As a single guy, that means I only need to contribute $121 for my insurance. However, once I'm married, that will jump up to about $500 a month. If I have kids then I'll end up paying about $800 per month.

Here's the retirement formula. Multiply my years of service by 2.3%. Take that number and multiply it by the average of my five highest salaries. So, for me, if I retire when I'm 60, I'll have 34 years of service and my average salary will be the 58647. So, I'll retire with an annual income of a little over 45K. I can live pretty well in the Philippines on that... so I'm happy.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

BJ, in all seriousness - how long have you been a teacher? Do you live in a right-to-work state? Do you think your teacher's union has negotiated for fair wages and benefits?

Unions aren't as useful as you think they are.

I know this idea that people can live a good life (even better many times) without unions is a hard concept to grasp outside of the Yankee states, but it works quite well.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I've got 17 years experience. The actual state minimum for that level of experience is 42,510, but my district, like most, pays above the state minimum. Texas is a right to work state, so of course that puts us in a different position than other teacher groups. We don't negotiate contracts. The school board sets the contract and that's it. We can't strike or anything like that. Honestly, even if we could strike, I'm not sure I could do it. I still kind of feel like what I do matters too much for me to walk out on my kids. Or maybe it's just I've always been in this state and I've never experienced anything different.

In case you want more info. In my district, the salaries start at 42,184 and max out at 58,647. The max is at 27 years and after that you don't get any more increases. The district pays $200 per month for our insurance. As a single guy, that means I only need to contribute $121 for my insurance. However, once I'm married, that will jump up to about $500 a month. If I have kids then I'll end up paying about $800 per month.

Here's the retirement formula. Multiply my years of service by 2.3%. Take that number and multiply it by the average of my five highest salaries. So, for me, if I retire when I'm 60, I'll have 34 years of service and my average salary will be the 58647. So, I'll retire with an annual income of a little over 45K. I can live pretty well in the Philippines on that... so I'm happy.

Thanks for sharing that, BJ. I've belonged to several unions over the years (UFCW, Teamsters, Cartoonists Union). Even though you are in a right-to-work state and there's no negotiating, those salary levels are influenced by other states with unions, to attract and keep quality teachers. It's the same rationale behind states trying to be business friendly.

You are fortunate enough (myself as well when I was under a union) to never have to strike, but sometimes it is necessary when negotiations break down and there's an impasse. Your monthly premiums should you have children are extremely high and it's unfortunate that the state won't pay more. Imagine if that doubled....what would you and other teachers do?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Thanks for sharing that, BJ. I've belonged to several unions over the years (UFCW, Teamsters, Cartoonists Union). Even though you are in a right-to-work state and there's no negotiating, those salary levels are influenced by other states with unions, to attract and keep quality teachers. It's the same rationale behind states trying to be business friendly.

You are fortunate enough (myself as well when I was under a union) to never have to strike, but sometimes it is necessary when negotiations break down and there's an impasse. Your monthly premiums should you have children are extremely high and it's unfortunate that the state won't pay more. Imagine if that doubled....what would you and other teachers do?

You mean it's unfortunate that the state won't STEAL from average citizens who pay the same or more so that Public workers can have a better life? Get damn real Steven.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Unions aren't as useful as you think they are.

I know this idea that people can live a good life (even better many times) without unions is a hard concept to grasp outside of the Yankee states, but it works quite well.

The concept of collective bargaining is the one of the only useful ways that many workers have any real negotiating power. Libertarian pie-in-the-sky thinking believes that workers can simply shop around for a better deal from another employer, but in real life, that is rarely the case for many working Americans. Unions built this country and were an integral part of creating a Middle Class. Without true negotiating power, the Middle Class would not exist.

You mean it's unfortunate that the state won't STEAL from average citizens who pay the same or more so that Public workers can have a better life? Get damn real Steven.

Go move to another country if you think you are being taxed against your will. Come on. Put up or shut up. All talk and no action.