assisted trip to allah

[Fuzzness 2]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

Umm did you grab that one from left field??? he said less valuable.. saying what you dont think us troops are equal.. hmmm left field.

nope, but it seemed to me that he was implying that iraqis are less valuable than americans. He seems to forget that there aren't just americans dying over there. what if the americans bomb civilians? is that "just war"

[Ban Hammer 14,291]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

the lives of american soldiers are more valuable than terrorists.

yes you may quote me too

[Bosco 1]

so just what do you think would make a young man drive a car of explosives into one of the world's premier battle tanks? do you deny that religion has anything to do with it? and do you really think that the excuse of "oh it's war" makes american lives less valuable?

Are military targets legitimate targets in a time of war?

Yes, but the question is not who were they attacking-we know that already-but who was the attacker? That's what you're questioning right?

No, I never questioned who the attacker was. It was clearly the guy in the car.

What I am questioning is the need to frame his attack as the "Muslim terrorist" when it was an attack on a military target. We don't know his reasons (and they may very well in part be religious) or even if he was a practicing Muslim. An attack on military target is presumably at least in part an attack against occupation/foreign presence in the country/resistance.

Edited August 28, 2006 by Bosco

[Fuzzness 2]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

the lives of american soldiers are more valuable than terrorists.

yes you may quote me too

no arguments from me there

[mawilson 2,133]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

Maybe, maybe not. Not all lives are worth the same. Is the life of a drug addict or

a child molester worth the same to you as that of Beethoven or Einstein?

The only reason people like to pretend that "all lives are worth the same" is because

we haven't come up with a good way to quantify a life's worth. A figure commonly

used by economists sets the value of a human (American) life at about $5 million.

[Ban Hammer 14,291]

No, I never questioned who the attacker was. It was clearly the guy in the car.

What I am questioning is the need to frame his attack as the "Muslim terrorist" when it was an attack on a military target. We don't know his reasons (and they may very well in part be religious) or even if he was a practicing Muslim. An attack on military target is presumably at least in part an attack against occupation/foreign presence in the country/resistance.

so if an extremist drives that car into civilians, he's a terrorist. if he drives the same car into one of our tanks, he's a freedom fighter. gotcha

[Traviesa 0]

so just what do you think would make a young man drive a car of explosives into one of the world's premier battle tanks? do you deny that religion has anything to do with it? and do you really think that the excuse of "oh it's war" makes american lives less valuable?

Are military targets legitimate targets in a time of war?

Yes, but the question is not who were they attacking-we know that already-but who was the attacker? That's what you're questioning right?

No, I never questioned who the attacker was. It was clearly the guy in the car.

What I am questioning is the need to frame his attack as the "Muslim terrorist" when it was an attack on a military target. We don't know his reasons (and they may very well in part be religious) or even if he was a practicing Muslim. An attack on military target is presumably at least in part an attack against occupation/foreign presence in the country/resistance.

But this wasn't an attack against a military target. This was a suicide attack involving a military target and the guy in the car. If he hated the military being there and was just acting out against such, he didn't have to try and blow himself up in the process. He had to have some incentive to want to die to prove his point. People usually get those life or death incentives from the religion they practice.

[PsychoKat 0]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

Maybe, maybe not. Not all lives are worth the same. Is the life of a drug addict or

a child molester worth the same to you as that of Beethoven or Einstein?

The only reason people like to pretend that "all lives are worth the same" is because

we haven't come up with a good way to quantify a life's worth. A figure commonly

used by economists sets the value of a human (American) life at about $5 million.

Wow! I'm worth about $5 Million? Wonder if I can take a loan out against the equity?

[mawilson 2,133]

Wow! I'm worth about $5 Million? Wonder if I can take a loan out against the equity?

You can, but if you default, they'll have to kill ya

[Ban Hammer 14,291]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

Maybe, maybe not. Not all lives are worth the same. Is the life of a drug addict or

a child molester worth the same to you as that of Beethoven or Einstein?

The only reason people like to pretend that "all lives are worth the same" is because

we haven't come up with a good way to quantify a life's worth. A figure commonly

used by economists sets the value of a human (American) life at about $5 million.

Wow! I'm worth about $5 Million? Wonder if I can take a loan out against the equity?

collateral: yourself!

[vartan 0]

Wow! I'm worth about $5 Million? Wonder if I can take a loan out against the equity?

Its called cash surrender.. but uhhh just hope you don't die .. from a terrorist that is a suicide bomber for Krispie Kreme donuts.. cause they said they would give him a lifetime supply if he did it

[Bosco 1]

so just what do you think would make a young man drive a car of explosives into one of the world's premier battle tanks? do you deny that religion has anything to do with it? and do you really think that the excuse of "oh it's war" makes american lives less valuable?

Are military targets legitimate targets in a time of war?

Yes, but the question is not who were they attacking-we know that already-but who was the attacker? That's what you're questioning right?

No, I never questioned who the attacker was. It was clearly the guy in the car.

What I am questioning is the need to frame his attack as the "Muslim terrorist" when it was an attack on a military target. We don't know his reasons (and they may very well in part be religious) or even if he was a practicing Muslim. An attack on military target is presumably at least in part an attack against occupation/foreign presence in the country/resistance.

But this wasn't an attack against a military target. This was a suicide attack involving a military target and the guy in the car. If he hated the military being there and was just acting out against such, he didn't have to try and blow himself up in the process. He had to have some incentive to want to die to prove his point. People usually get those life or death incentives from the religion they practice.

It was a an attack against a military target. Because you don't like the means (and neither do I) doesn't make it a religious attack.

[mawilson 2,133]

...just hope you don't die .. from a terrorist that is a suicide bomber for Krispie Kreme donuts...

= obesity and heart disease?

[Jenn! 918]

so american lives are more valuable than iraqi lives?

the lives of american soldiers are more valuable than terrorists.

yes you may quote me too

no arguments from me there

But he didn't answer your question.

[Heracles 417]

Yes, religion is used as a tool of recruitment. However, this was an attack against a military target. There is no reason to frame this as an act of religious extremism. Targets against military targets, especially that of an occupying force, are normally framed as resistance.

What about deliberately bombing a group of kids playing outside their houses?? I guess different rules apply to muslims extremists..

Edited August 28, 2006 by Infidel