My wife's Horror Story from Guangzhou,

[g371728g 0]

Hi all you VJ’s I want to take a few moments of your time to bring everyone up to speed on everything that has transpired since my last plead for your help with my daughters situation. I have enrolled my daughter into an English school in Nanning China where she is excelling. I am so proud of her. On September 08-14-2010 my wife received her packet from Guangzhou. On September 1st 2010 at 7:15am my wife had her first interview in Guangzhou where she was ask 4 questions. These are the questions they ask her. Where is your husband? Why has your husband only been to China to see you just one time for only 62 days sense you got married? How did you meet your husband? How do you and your husband communicate with each other? My wife answered all these questions very good and she was always very polite to the VO. She was given a blue slip of paper requesting more information and said our love and marriage was not a bona fide love and marriage, which is totally BS. My wife and I were devastated by these results. My wife cried for a solid week until she was sick. I did my best to comfort her by telling her that we can fix this little problem and that it was just a little bump in our road of love. We gather up all the information they requested and a lot more and she turned it into the Consulate Guangzhou on September 17th 2010. I sent everything they requested from me to my wife by DHL the fastest way possible. Just as soon as the NVC had sent the case files to Guangzhou 05-14-2010. I sent my wife a copy of everything, the kitchen sink all 17lbs. My wife was so surprised of how much information she had setting in front of her. She got some help and started learning and studying all this information I sent to her. My wife probably knows more about all her immigration documents then I do now. On 10- 29-2010 my wife received a letter from the consulate in Guangzhou for a second interview any Monday thru Wednesday between the hours of 1:30pm to 3:00pm. I thought this was strange. This is how my wife’s second interview went. My wife approached the VO and said good morning. She works in public relations so I do know how polite she is always. The VO never acknowledges her so she thought to VO never heard her so she said good morning again in English and was ignored once again. I thought this was very rude of the VO. The VO started reading some documents and NEVER asks her ANY questions at all. The only thing the VO said to my wife was for her to go to window No 30 to get the results. These are my wife’s exact words to the VO. How could you let my lonely husband live in America alone, for no body care. My wife insisted that he tell her why she was denied and received this white slip of paper. Now she was angry and she was screaming I love my American husband and how can you do this to us. Then it got ugly the VO ask security to take my wife away. She did go but not before saying what she wanted to say so everyone could here. I know her actions were not acceptable in the Consulate, but any one of us who love our wife like I do would have done exactly the same thing if this happened to one of us. I am trying to find away for her to send a letter of apology to the Consulate, or is this something that needs to be done? My wife is probably not the first Chinese woman to loose her cool over a white denial slip. My question to everyone of you VJ’s is there any way to overcome this white slip 221(g) not a bona fide relationship which is BS? I have already called DOS the NVC, and USCIS. I was told there is nothing I can do until the case files are sent back to the CIS. Is there anyway the case files can stay at Guangzhou and this problem be solved with out sending the case back to CIS for review and possibly termination of the case? I was told by DOS that it could take up to 120 days for Guangzhou to just send the case to the CIS, which is also BS. No one cares if our wives and husbands have to wait all this time and be separated from the ones we love. My wife and I have no intention of defrauding anyone for any reason. We don’t expect anything for nothing. We try our best to do everything the right way the first time. I am still devastated by Guangzhou actions. Now I am mad and want to do something so my wife and I can be together in the States. If anyone has any suggestion please feel free to give me your help or opinion. To my wife and me it may be possibly another 6 months to a year of separation. I was told by DOS that once the case files are reviewed by CIS that they will notified me by mail of the exact reason for my wife’s denial. The CIS will give me a chance to try and prove that our love and marriage is true love and a bona fide relationship. Is this information correct that DOS told me? Or is this BS too? I have got to the point where the only ones I truly believe in any more are the good people on VJ. So please if anyone knows what I need to do now please feel free to tell me. If anyone needs or wants to discuss my situation with me just ask for my email address and I will gladly give it to you. I love my wife with all my heart and she loves me back with the same enthusiasm are even more if that is possible. Thank you for taking the time to read my plea for your help once again. Gary.

[UKGirl123 24]

I just wanted to say I am sorry for what happened and I hope that you get it rectified soon. Your post made me feel very sad for both you and your wife as I feel the hurt for you. Good luck.

[Azzudiin 26]

Sorry to hear everything that has happened. There is not much that can be done to keep case in Guangzhou but I would recommend contacting your congressman ASAP, try to get them to intercede to keep the case there.

You might also want to contact one of the lawyers that handles a lot of cases in Guangzhou, Mark Ellis is recommended by many people.

[Sra Gomez 9]

Sorry to hear about your situation. Try giving your senator/congressman a call. They usually help in these sort of situations. I'm not too familiar with the white slip, but you should be able to appeal the decision. It also might be beneficial to ask other VJ members that have interviewed at the same location and ask if it is important that you be there for the (hopefully soon) next interview. You might have to refile also...

Sorry I don't have a lot of information, but hopefully someone will =)

-Bela

[Hamburger Man 3]

I'm so sorry for your denial. The first thing you should do is IMMEDIATELY contact your congressman to see if they can keep the I-130 in China and maybe speak to the Chief Consulate about the denial. Failing that, the best thing to do now would be to re-file a new petition because typically they sit on the petitions until they expire and even if they don't USCIS can take up to 12 months to reaffirm or issue a final denial on them.

What do you think the denial was all about? How many visits to see each other? How long have you been married?

Best of Luck!

Edited December 2, 2010 by Hamburger Man

[MarcoGomes 2]

Hey Gary...sorry to hear to story...I wish I could help you with information, but the only thing I can think of is to talk to a REALLY good IMMIGRATION lawyer. The best of luck to you and your wife. Will be praying for a fast solution to your case.

NEVER GIVE UP!!!

[drakkon84 1]

This is the lawyer i am using from my process they seem very knowledgeable. Free consultation. They are a little pricey, but they really answer all my questions in simple terms and step by step how to get everything you need. http://www.1-800-usa-immigration.com/ They take trouble cases maybe they can help you could at least get a free consult.

[LDG 2]

How long have you known your wife and how long have you been married? You mention you have a 20 year old daughter (in a different topic). Is she really your daughter or stepdaughter? I'm guessing stepdaughter, i can't imagine having this much problems proving a relationship if you really had a 20 year old biological daughter with your wife.

In any case, this is really a horrible experience for you. GUZ can be a real nightmare for some people who have a real relationship but just happen to get a nasty VO.

There must be some help you can get like others have mentioned, getting a congressman involved and getting a professional experienced attorney that is very familiar with GUZ cases.

I am so thankful for my wife having had a pleasant VO to work with. I could have just as easily been living this nightmare.

Hang in there, get people involved quickly, there must be something awfully wrong here for your wife to have been treated so poorly. Don't give up, and don't sit idly by waiting for DOS or USCIS to do anything about it. Get an attorney's advice and help on this, and get your senator's office involved in figuring this mess out!

Edited December 2, 2010 by LDG

[g371728g 0]

I met My wife 12-08-2008 we got married 09-09-2009 yes my daughter is my step daughter. I spent 62 days wonderful and loving days with my wife after we were married. I did contract my congressman this morning. He sent me a privacy act release form and told me to send all the information I had on my wifes two interview. I have all this information ready to fax out first thing in the morning I will never give up hope and I will never give up on my wife. Thank you for your concern.

[Angeli 5]

I am so sorry about you and your wife's experience. I was devastated when we got our RFE after we've waited for 51/2 months, that is why I couldn't blame your wife if she reacted that way at the consulate. It was so unfair that they didn't even give her a chance to answer questions nor present all the evidences you have gathered. I wish you luck and prayers in your appeal. Don't give up. Godbless.

[Tuanv 2]

It is devastating that bona fide marriages are treated like this. All you can do now is be persistent.

[Bob g 11]

I met My wife 12-08-2008 we got married 09-09-2009 yes my daughter is my step daughter. I spent 62 days wonderful and loving days with my wife after we were married. I did contract my congressman this morning. He sent me a privacy act release form and told me to send all the information I had on my wifes two interview. I have all this information ready to fax out first thing in the morning I will never give up hope and I will never give up on my wife. Thank you for your concern.

Your timeline looks similar to mine. I believe you just had the bad luck of getting a Butthead Interview Officer , this happens sometimes. Having 1 trip can be a negative, but not always. If you had 2 trips of 30 days each rather than one 62 day trip, that would have been better. It is not always easy to travel more than 1 time each year. The Interview Office ask about your communications. Did you send documents with your petition showing your ability to communicate and how often? After our K1 denial in Dec 09, I received a letter from USCIS in August, that the K1 had expired. Another friend I talk with, same situation, got a letter in October 10, that his petition had expired in March 10. He had hopes that USCIS would do something positive. Me, I just applied again. I read that 1 couple, 1 week after their denial, applied again with another K1, was back in Guz in 6 months, with sucess. K1s are not the same as Marriage Visas I know, but have about the same problems with Guz if one gets a Butthead Visa Officer. The way the process is today, is it will take an Act of Congress to change the BS going on with the Visa Process. Best of Luck.. .

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Sometimes the CO apparently hasn't meet their rejection quota of the week and picks on some unsuspecting couple and wipes out their future for the next year. I had had plans for his flight and even had someone in country to fly home with him ( I was getting my son started in college that week ) and we were denied because Joseph didn't know details of my classified work. I ended up having to report the mess as attempted espionage all while going through the emotions of a wedding that wasn't going to happen. After a lot of crying and a little cussing we pick ourselves up and refiled. Tthe worse question we were asked was if his father died because he married a white woman ( Lago's Asian lady has to be nasty to everyone )

[g371728g 0]

I really believe my wonderful wife fate was decided before her first interview. She had the kitchen sink and a lot more with her and was well prepared not to fail her interview. But even at her first interview she was not allowed to provide the VO with none of the documentation to prove to the VO our love was true and a bona fide love and marriage. My wife had all that information in her hands and well organized. The VO never allowed her to show him anything. He just handed her a blue slip of paper. I know my wife felt violated by the way she was treated by the VO. Her total time at he first interview was 3 minutes. That is the time it took for our love and lives and fate to be decided. He had ask her 4 questions. My wife answered then quickly and honest. I can't even go to a florist to pick out and buy my wife roses that quick. But our fate was decided that quick. I did fax my congressman all the information he requested all 18 full pages typed. Just to show everyone how much information that was in the kitchen sink. When my wifes case files were sent to Guangzhou. I sent 17 lbs of everything my wife and I had gathered up. And for what she was never allow to use any of it. My wife is not a bad person. She just loves her husband and wants to be with me. My wifes second interview was even shorter. It took security longer to escort her away then her entire first and second interview combined. There is nothing right the way my wifes interview was handled. My congressman suggested that my wife write a letter of apology to the Consulate for her behavior in front of everyone. I talked to my wife today about this and she agreed her behavior was unexceptable. She will write this letter. I really appriciate all of you VJ's for your support and help. I hope and pray no one has to go though the pain and embarrassment my wonderful wife had to endure. Our prayer go with everyone that has to go to Guangzhou for there interview. What worries my wife and me is what did we ever do to anyone to deserve to be treated like this. What did we do? WHY is our biggest question. Thanks again and God bless all.

[Rickey 0]

What can I say....

Whatever happens, don't give up on hope or trying. Love is worth it.

When I read your first post, I was thinking congressman. And you are on the right track here.

My best friend had a similar experience with the Vietnamese consulate. He immediately called his Congressman, a few months later his wife was on a plane bound for her new home.

It can be reversed.

Don't give up.

I wish you folks can be united in the USA soon.

Best wishes to you all.

Rickey.