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When filing for K-1 visa, USC need to show a proof of citizenship, can i just copy my Naturalization Certificate or does it need to be like a certified copy?? :/ it does not say anything on the instructions, all it says is a copy of certificate of natur. , but i heard from someone that its "illegal" to copy N. Certificate... it has to be a certified copy ??? is that true??? :S

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You can give them a copy of your passport to prove citizenship. It is OK to photocopy your certificate of naturalization. I did, front and back (blank!) I submitted a copy with the I-129F petition package, and my fiancee gave them a copy at her interview. I also gave them a photocopy of my passport, cover to cover, because it had the stamps.


Service Center: Vermont Service Center

Consulate: Juarez, Mexico

I-129F Sent: 2010-01-08

I-129F NOA1: 2010-01-11

I-129F NOA2: 2010-03-17

NVC Received: 2010-03-24

Consulate Received: 2010-04-02

Open Appointment Letter Sent: 2010-04-47

Open Appointment Letter Rcvd: 2010-05-21

Medical Exam Date: 2010-06-15

Interview Date: 2010-06-16

Interview Result: Approved

Visa Received: 2010-06-17

POE ATL: 2010-09-05

Married!: 2010-10-30

AOS package received: 2010-11-30

Biometrics: 2011-01-13

AOS transferred to CSC: 2011-01-18

EAD card production ordered: 2011-02-09

AP Approved: 2011-02-09

AP Letter Received: 2011-02-12

Green card production ordered: 2011-02-16

Green Card Received!: 2011-02-22

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The Naturalization Certificate tells USCIS something I personally would not want them to know at all: that I'm an ex immigrant. I therefore also suggest you copy your passport instead. It's all on a need-to-know basis with immigration.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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The Naturalization Certificate tells USCIS something I personally would not want them to know at all: that I'm an ex immigrant. I therefore also suggest you copy your passport instead. It's all on a need-to-know basis with immigration.

The passport shows what country you were born in on the biographical page.


Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Bangkok, Thailand

Marriage : 2006-11-08

I-130 Sent : 2008-02-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-03-10

I-129F Sent : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-14

I-129F touched: 2008-05-06

I-130 touched: 2008-05-09

I-129F approved 2008-09-05

I-130 approved 2008-09-05

NVC received 2008-09-12

Pay I-864 2008-10-08

Pay IV bill 2008-10-08

Receive Instruction 2008-11-05

Case Complete 2008-11-18

Medical 2009-01-19/20 passed

Receive Pkt 4 2009-01-30

Interview 221g 2009-02-23

Second interview 2009-03-02 Approved

POE DFW 2009-03-07

Received SS card 2009-03-17

Received GC 2009-04-01

Done for 3 years or 10 years. Haven't decided yet.

(I'm going for the IR-1 and blowing off the K-3. Even if it takes an extra couple months, it's worth it to not have to deal with USCIS again)

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

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When filing for K-1 visa, USC need to show a proof of citizenship, can i just copy my Naturalization Certificate or does it need to be like a certified copy?? :/ it does not say anything on the instructions, all it says is a copy of certificate of natur. , but i heard from someone that its "illegal" to copy N. Certificate... it has to be a certified copy ??? is that true??? :S

What you "heard from someone" is actually printed on your certificate of naturalization: "IT IS PUNISHABLE BY U.S. LAW TO COPY, PRINT OR PHOTOGRAPH THIS CERTIFICATE, WITHOUT LAWFUL AUTHORITY".

USCIS is the "lawful authority" that issued your certificate. You can legally provide a photocopy of it for them. They can easily confirm whether it's a legitimate copy. In fact, they are the ONLY government agency that can do that. A "certified true copy" is usually only required when you need to submit a copy to another government agency. If you actually want to get a certified true copy (you don't NEED to do this) then you have to make an infopass appointment. The instructions are here:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=85e5e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=54519c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

BTW, it's perfectly legal for you to make copies for yourself. In fact, USCIS encourages you to do so in case the original is lost or destroyed. You just can't make copies and pass them around to your friends or upload them to the internet, etc.


12/15/2009 - K1 Visa Interview - APPROVED!

12/29/2009 - Married in Oakland, CA!

08/18/2010 - AOS Interview - APPROVED!

05/01/2013 - Removal of Conditions - APPROVED!

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Hej Jovana duso...

Kada ovako postavis pitanje neki samo jedva cekaju da te poklope nekim glupavim zakonima... (I'm very sorry about using my language, I totally forgot how some of you can get offended..)

So.. I'll share my experience with you, but you have to keep in mind that it is only MY experience, it doesn't have to mean that you'll have the same one. My boyfriend had his oath ceremony last September. First thing he did after he got his Naturalization Certificate was that he got his American passport. So, when he filed our I-129F package he just copied his Naturalization Certificate without having it certified by notary. He also copied and included all of the pages of his new American passport (nothing from the Bosnian one). In his cover letter for I-129F he made a remark in the last line, it was something like this: ''Copies of the documents submitted are exact photocopies of unaltered documents and I understand that I may be required to submit original documents to an Immigration or Consular officer at a later date.'' We never got RFE (maybe we were just lucky). I think you'll be just fine.. If you have any questions post them in our forum, I will be very happy to help you with anything I can (maybe I wasn't paying much attention lately- it's only because of my medical and interview).

Good luck girl..


K-1 VISA JOURNEY 2010:

March 24th: I-129F filed

March 26th: NOA1 date

May 24th: NOA2 date

May 25th- Jun 3rd: Case @ NVC

Jun 7th: Embassy received

Jun 15th: Embassy sent pkt 3

Jun 17th: Pkt 3 received :)

Jun 22nd: Medical @ 7 a.m. (Kosevo)/ Jun 23rd: Passed

Jun 29th: Interview @ 13:30: Approved/ Jun 30th: Visa in hand

AOS JOURNEY 2010/2011:

October 25th: AOS, EAD and AP filed

November 1st: AOS, EAD and AP NOA1 date

November 18th: AOS and EAD biometrics appointment

January 6th: AOS case transferred to CSC

January 15th: AP document received (YAY! One step closer to GC!)

January 18th: EAD card received :)))))

February 17th: GC card production ordered

February 24th: GC arrived in mail :) What a relief..

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The passport shows what country you were born in on the biographical page.

True, but when I was born abroad back in 1957 my parents could have been US citizens which would have made me a US citizen since birth.

Different from a Certificate of Citizenship issued half a Century later.

I maintain my position.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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