so what do we do when Obama pushes through the imigration bill

[charlie&pam 1]

If our President gives citizenship to the illegals, should we have a class action suit to get our money back since we did things the right way? What is my VJ's family views?

[-B&T- 1]

I doubt that you will get your money back Charlie!! Hey, how's the wedding? Do you still have any lechon left? Sorry this maybe a little late but I still want to say… Congratulations!

[A and T 82]

Considering I have spent thousands of dollars and I am still waiting almost 1 year and not approved, its extremely clear as to why we do I have lots of illegals. Can you blame them?

The united states was founded by people that wanted to come to the "new world" everyone here, has immigrant roots. (unless you are 100% native american)

So, I guess it was ok for the white people from england to come over in hopes of a new and better life. But not anyone else ?

What would you do if the native american indians told us all to get out , and said we were illeagle ? Would you go for that?

[charlie&pam 1]

Considering I have spent thousands of dollars and I am still waiting almost 1 year and not approved, its extremely clear as to why we do I have lots of illegals. Can you blame them?

The united states was founded by people that wanted to come to the "new world" everyone here, has immigrant roots. (unless you are 100% native american)

So, I guess it was ok for the white people from england to come over in hopes of a new and better life. But not anyone else ?

What would you do if the native american indians told us all to get out , and said we were illeagle ? Would you go for that?

I understand what you are trying to say ....however because we have decided to do it the right way we should not be punnished and the 3 million illegals should not be rewarded when they broke the law and we went through our government process the correct way. It will undermind the process which we were founded ....If we were in mexico per their government laws if somone is an "illegal" they will hunt them down (article 67 of the ratified constitution of mexico) .......

Our constitution requires us to be law abiding citizens of good faith!!!!! which we all are since we are all on this forum,doing things the right way (legally)!!!!

Here is a quote from our estimed former president teddy roosevelt from 1907 and we should still stick by his thoughts and words today!!!!!....here it is:

"in the first place we should insist that if the immegrant who comes here in good faith becomes an american and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the persons becomming in every facet an american, and nothing but an american......there can be no divided allegince here. Any man who says that he is an american, but something else also, isn't an american at all. We have room for but one flag, the american flag, We have room for but one language here, and that is the english language..... and we have room for one but sole loyalty and that is the loyalty for the american people."

But getting back to my original point, for me to have to pay money to do things legally, then those who come after me they should be heald to the same high standard!!!...since it is unjust to charge me and not charge others....and what I am saying even though I understand your plight I am speaking to those who have alredy completed this process. That we should be entitled to our money back and my question is why are we being shaken down while criminals get a free pass????????????????

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Don't worry Charlie, they'll be charged fees for it. Remember USCIS is supposed to be self-funded by the fees they collect for all of this.

[andresbonifacio 7]

i don't think the illegals will be awarded citizenship right away and for free. i read somewhere that they'll be "forgiven" then return to their country then do things the "legal" way and pay some fees to become legal here.

[Popcorn3210 0]

Considering I have spent thousands of dollars and I am still waiting almost 1 year and not approved, its extremely clear as to why we do I have lots of illegals. Can you blame them?

The united states was founded by people that wanted to come to the "new world" everyone here, has immigrant roots. (unless you are 100% native american)

So, I guess it was ok for the white people from england to come over in hopes of a new and better life. But not anyone else ?

What would you do if the native american indians told us all to get out , and said we were illeagle ? Would you go for that?

Well, I believe there are very good reasons not to let everyone in ....especially if they are illegal. Sure, many want simply to make a better living for themselves. That is okay. However, I am sure there are also some that do criminal actions. It is one thing to let law abiding people in but do we really have to be forced to let in the bad ones? I think what Arizona passed is probably not fair to those law abiding latinos but if we lived in Arizona we may think differently...and maybe even if I was Latino...but I am not so I cannot speak for them.

Many want to come to the USA but not all are necessarily worthy...those laws put into place to weed out those more unsavory types have been put in place for a purpose. It may not be a perfect process but I am guessing the USA allows many more inside than some other countries.

[Fudpukker 18]

This is a very touchy subject, first of all I am happy for Arizona, I am by heart patriotic and I am not white I am of Filipino origin. My family migrated here to the UNITED STATES the LEGAL way back in the early 1900s. For fairness with everyone else, including all the members here that is going thru the immigration process legally, I believe if you are not LEGAL then you need to get out, its as simple as that. I can go on and on and on, I pay my taxes, served my country but yet at times I see that the illegals are getting a better deal then me. For me It does not matter what is your race, whether you are Canadian, MEXICAN, Filipino or whatever, if you are not legal then its time to get out of the UNITED STATES.

[Zai & Gary 6]

Immigration laws are just that, Laws! So illegal immigrants have violated the laws of the USA. Why should they be pardoned? Send them all back and make them do it legally just like every one of you and I are doing.

[charlie&pam 1]

This is a very touchy subject, first of all I am happy for Arizona, I am by heart patriotic and I am not white I am of Filipino origin. My family migrated here to the UNITED STATES the LEGAL way back in the early 1900s. For fairness with everyone else, including all the members here that is going thru the immigration process legally, I believe if you are not LEGAL then you need to get out, its as simple as that. I can go on and on and on, I pay my taxes, served my country but yet at times I see that the illegals are getting a better deal then me. For me It does not matter what is your race, whether you are Canadian, MEXICAN, Filipino or whatever, if you are not legal then its time to get out of the UNITED STATES.

it is not just the arizona laws it is the pardon that Obama wants to give all the illegals that are in the country right now!!!....there are people here in VJ that have been on this site for over 5 years and have done it right and legal and paid all that money to the GOVERNMENT and they are the ones that are really getting screwed!!!! All I would like to know is what will we all feel when this passes (which it will!!!!) when we have all been through the heart aches and tears, which....lets be honest we have all shead durring the stressfull times the government has put us through durring our journey's, what is our Government trying to tell us?????.....Maybe "Sorry I know you did the right thing but.... duck you for doing it the way that we wanted you to do it ....now we are going to pardon all these people who snuck in and took jobs from people who deserved them?????"....

[Scott and Mhay 57]

Yes it will suck...hopefully the legislation will include people that are LPR get their citizenship automatically too?

Yeah like that will happen. I know how doing the right thing is...you always get screwed by someone that found a loophole or cheated.

[~Johnny~ 27]

Yes it will suck...hopefully the legislation will include people that are LPR get their citizenship automatically too?

Yeah like that will happen. I know how doing the right thing is...you always get screwed by someone that found a loophole or cheated.

You kidding...they're gonna have a provision to raise our fees to pay for all the illegals that get pushed through for free :bonk:

[Fudpukker 18]

it is not just the arizona laws it is the pardon that Obama wants to give all the illegals that are in the country right now!!!....there are people here in VJ that have been on this site for over 5 years and have done it right and legal and paid all that money to the GOVERNMENT and they are the ones that are really getting screwed!!!! All I would like to know is what will we all feel when this passes (which it will!!!!) when we have all been through the heart aches and tears, which....lets be honest we have all shead durring the stressfull times the government has put us through durring our journey's, what is our Government trying to tell us?????.....Maybe "Sorry I know you did the right thing but.... duck you for doing it the way that we wanted you to do it ....now we are going to pardon all these people who snuck in and took jobs from people who deserved them?????"....

I agree with you and after all the money I spent, I think all of us should get our money back or at least have it tax deductible on next years tax return.

All I can say is that I WISH WE HAD A DIFFERENT PRESIDENT, I'm Ex-Military and that makes me a Republican.

[Scott and Mhay 57]

Here's a little off-topic political joke I got:

A $50 Lesson

I recently asked my friends' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats,were standing there, so I asked her, 'If you were President what would be the first thing you would do? '

She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'

Her parents beamed with pride.

'Wow...what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds,and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house. '

She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, ' Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work,and you can just pay him the $50? '

I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'

Her parents still aren't speaking to me.

Yeah I am used to being screwed by now...almost 15 years in the military will do that.

[Tahoma 2,291]

now we are going to pardon all these people who snuck in and took jobs from people who deserved them?????"....

Charlie...you wouldn't last a week picking asparagus.