i864 for mother in law

[LeGo 0]

My wife is filing an i-864 for her mother to show sponsorship for her mother. I have filled jointly with my wife for the past three years. My wife has not met the requirements on her own. Does our joint filling = her filling? Or do I need to fill out an i-864a? For some reason this form seems a bit overly complicated (again).

Thanks in advance.

[andresbonifacio 7]

My wife is filing an i-864 for her mother to show sponsorship for her mother. I have filled jointly with my wife for the past three years. My wife has not met the requirements on her own. Does our joint filling = her filling? Or do I need to fill out an i-864a? For some reason this form seems a bit overly complicated (again).

Thanks in advance.

i filed for I-864 for my mother, im currently jobless so have to use my wife's income. we filed our taxes jointly too.

To answer your question...

-your wife has to file an i-864 being the "SPONSOR".

-your wife has to file an i-864a together with the i-864 with YOU signing as the "HOUSEHOLD MEMBER"

just read the instructions several times, they are not complicated.

additional info: on the TAX part i typed the same amount for TOTAL INCOME from our Tax return (AGI) on both the i-864 and i-864a because thats what the form is asking... the ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME in the tax return, since we filed jointly our AGI is the total sum of our income and not individually.

Edited April 15, 2010 by andresbonifacio

[LeGo 0]

i filed for I-864 for my mother, im currently jobless so have to use my wife's income. we filed our taxes jointly too.

To answer your question...

-your wife has to file an i-864 being the "SPONSOR".

-your wife has to file an i-864a together with the i-864 with YOU signing as the "HOUSEHOLD MEMBER"

just read the instructions several times, they are not complicated.

additional info: on the TAX part i typed the same amount for TOTAL INCOME from our Tax return (AGI) on both the i-864 and i-864a because thats what the form is asking... the ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME in the tax return, since we filed jointly our AGI is the total sum of our income and not individually.

That is where my thoughts were going. The reason that it is complicated is because her/our AGI is sufficient. On the i864 form it says "you must show your" income is sufficient. Then on our joint filling it says "Your adjusted income is XX,XXX," which is sufficient. But the I-864 also says that her income must be sufficient. I will reread and get the tax forms requested to show w2's for her. Then fill out as noted.

[andresbonifacio 7]

thats the reason why you need i-864A, because the AGI on the tax return is not just hers

[LeGo 0]

and after rereading the instructions for the forms (the instructions for each question), it is pretty clear that I need to do the two forms.

[bunnyta 0]

Hello,

Sorry to interrupt... I am going through the same... and I don't know how to answer question 1 in Part 1 of the I-864, "a" or "e". I am petitioning my parents but my husband is also sponsoring (completing the I-864A) since my income is not enough. So, I think it should be "a", I am the petitioner, but I think option "e" is also correct as I am the first of two joint sponsors.. my husband would the second one, correct?

Can somebody clarify that?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

[sachinky 464]

You are the petitioner. Also known as the primary sponsor in this case.

Your husband is the joint sponsor.

[andresbonifacio 7]

You are the petitioner. Also known as the primary sponsor in this case.

Your husband is the joint sponsor.

That is WRONG.

Your husband is NOT a "JOINT SPONSOR". He is a "HOUSEHOLD MEMBER" who's income you would be using to make the 125% required income.

Here are the difference between a JOINT SPONSOR and a HOUSEHOLD MEMBER:

JOINT SPONSOR:

Doesn't live with you in the same house. Can be someone NOT related to you or the beneficiary.

Need to file a different I-864 aside from yours.

HOUSEHOLD MEMBER:

Lives in your house, can be your dependent, spouse, working kids etc.

Needs to file I-864A as attachment to your I-864.

Hope this helps.

Edited April 16, 2010 by andresbonifacio

[sachinky 464]

What I meant and wasn't obvious from my above post is that the "household member" (the husband) IS the "joint sponsor" for the beneficiary, in this case, for all intents and purposes. The "household member" goes on record as the "joint sponsor," or more fittingly, in this case, as the "co-sponsor."

These terms are often used interchangeably. You don't really hear anybody refer to the individual who is acting as their joint sponsor as a "household member" instead, do you? However, my apologies if I caused any unintended confusion.

Yes, he'd fill an I864A and you'd be combining income/assets.

Edited April 16, 2010 by sachinky

[sachinky 464]

To be clear, the husband is a household member with respect to the petitioner (relative, lives in the same household) but from the point of view of the beneficiary, he is her "joint sponsor" -- not HER household member as she doesn't live in the same household yet.

[andresbonifacio 7]

These terms are often used interchangeably. You don't really hear anybody refer to the individual who is acting as their joint sponsor as a "household member" instead, do you?

well. be careful when you reply next time, your reply would have caused her to check letter "e" on her I-864 which she shouldn't.

To be clear, the husband is a household member with respect to the petitioner (relative, lives in the same household) but from the point of view of the beneficiary, he is her "joint sponsor" -- not HER household member as she doesn't live in the same household yet.

isn't that obvious? duh?!

[sachinky 464]

Why would she check off "E?" She is clearly the petitioner who has applied for the immigration of an alien relative. That's "a."

If one is unable to read English and interpret literally, then they should not be filling up the forms by themselves, in the first place.

The husband will mark "I'm not the intending immigrant and I'm related to the petitioner as their spouse" on his I-864A.

The instructions are clear on the I-864/I-864A.

There is no need for the "DUH" -- you just told me that I was "WRONG" when I wasn't, actually. The household member (of the petitioner) IS the joint sponsor or co-sponsor (for the beneficiary) and like I said, those terms are used interchangeably. I was just making the distinction about how the husband was a household member from the petitioner's point of view and the joint sponsor from the beneficiary's. Thus, making me not "wrong" when I made my original statement.

The petitioner is always the primary sponsor and the second individual who signs the I-864 or I-864A (if they are a household member) is always the joint sponsor.

[andresbonifacio 7]

sure sir whatever you say. you're the "veteran" here, we're just "noobs" as you've said in the other thread.