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My wife is filing an i-864 for her mother to show sponsorship for her mother. I have filled jointly with my wife for the past three years. My wife has not met the requirements on her own. Does our joint filling = her filling? Or do I need to fill out an i-864a? For some reason this form seems a bit overly complicated (again).

Thanks in advance.


I found this website late in my application process, obviously it would have helped earlier in the process... very glad to be here though.

I got married on February 20, 2004.

Filed immidiately afterthat for the I-130, then filled for the fiance visa (and a work visa), gave up on those as the I-130 was approved before the fiance visa, and now i am waiting on the NVC and waiting and waiting and waiting... I am wanting this to end soon.

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Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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My wife is filing an i-864 for her mother to show sponsorship for her mother. I have filled jointly with my wife for the past three years. My wife has not met the requirements on her own. Does our joint filling = her filling? Or do I need to fill out an i-864a? For some reason this form seems a bit overly complicated (again).

Thanks in advance.

i filed for I-864 for my mother, im currently jobless so have to use my wife's income. we filed our taxes jointly too.

To answer your question...

-your wife has to file an i-864 being the "SPONSOR".

-your wife has to file an i-864a together with the i-864 with YOU signing as the "HOUSEHOLD MEMBER"

just read the instructions several times, they are not complicated.

additional info: on the TAX part i typed the same amount for TOTAL INCOME from our Tax return (AGI) on both the i-864 and i-864a because thats what the form is asking... the ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME in the tax return, since we filed jointly our AGI is the total sum of our income and not individually.

Edited by andresbonifacio

11/05/09 - Sent I-130 for mother via snail mail

11/13/09 - Received NOA1

03/05/10 - Received NOA2

03/11/10 - Case entered into NVC system, MNL case # assigned

03/18/10 - Sent DS3032 via E-mail

03/24/10 - DS3032 entered into NVC system

03/25/10 - Received IV Fee bill by E-mail, PAID both IV and AOS Fees on-line

03/26/10 - AOS Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for 2009 Tax Transcript from IRS)

03/29/10 - IV Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for mother's documents from the Philippines)

04/09/10 - Sent AOS Package by snail mail

04/12/10 - NVC received AOS package

04/19/10 - Sent IV Package by snail mail

04/21/10 - NVC received IV package

04/28/10 - AOS accepted (received checklist re:IV package even if NVC received it already)

05/03/10 - Sign In FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!

05/05/10 - AVR message: "CASE COMPLETED ON 05/04/10"

05/12/10 - Received interview letter via e-mail

05/17-18/10 - Medical Exam

06/16/10 - Interview Appointment @ the Embassy (Canceled because of sputum and culture test, 2 months waiting)

08/05/10 - New Interview Appointment

08/07/10 - Visa delivered 2 days after interview

08/27/10 - LAX P.O.E.

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Filed: Country: Ecuador
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i filed for I-864 for my mother, im currently jobless so have to use my wife's income. we filed our taxes jointly too.

To answer your question...

-your wife has to file an i-864 being the "SPONSOR".

-your wife has to file an i-864a together with the i-864 with YOU signing as the "HOUSEHOLD MEMBER"

just read the instructions several times, they are not complicated.

additional info: on the TAX part i typed the same amount for TOTAL INCOME from our Tax return (AGI) on both the i-864 and i-864a because thats what the form is asking... the ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME in the tax return, since we filed jointly our AGI is the total sum of our income and not individually.

That is where my thoughts were going. The reason that it is complicated is because her/our AGI is sufficient. On the i864 form it says "you must show your" income is sufficient. Then on our joint filling it says "Your adjusted income is XX,XXX," which is sufficient. But the I-864 also says that her income must be sufficient. I will reread and get the tax forms requested to show w2's for her. Then fill out as noted.


I found this website late in my application process, obviously it would have helped earlier in the process... very glad to be here though.

I got married on February 20, 2004.

Filed immidiately afterthat for the I-130, then filled for the fiance visa (and a work visa), gave up on those as the I-130 was approved before the fiance visa, and now i am waiting on the NVC and waiting and waiting and waiting... I am wanting this to end soon.

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thats the reason why you need i-864A, because the AGI on the tax return is not just hers :)


11/05/09 - Sent I-130 for mother via snail mail

11/13/09 - Received NOA1

03/05/10 - Received NOA2

03/11/10 - Case entered into NVC system, MNL case # assigned

03/18/10 - Sent DS3032 via E-mail

03/24/10 - DS3032 entered into NVC system

03/25/10 - Received IV Fee bill by E-mail, PAID both IV and AOS Fees on-line

03/26/10 - AOS Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for 2009 Tax Transcript from IRS)

03/29/10 - IV Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for mother's documents from the Philippines)

04/09/10 - Sent AOS Package by snail mail

04/12/10 - NVC received AOS package

04/19/10 - Sent IV Package by snail mail

04/21/10 - NVC received IV package

04/28/10 - AOS accepted (received checklist re:IV package even if NVC received it already)

05/03/10 - Sign In FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!

05/05/10 - AVR message: "CASE COMPLETED ON 05/04/10"

05/12/10 - Received interview letter via e-mail

05/17-18/10 - Medical Exam

06/16/10 - Interview Appointment @ the Embassy (Canceled because of sputum and culture test, 2 months waiting)

08/05/10 - New Interview Appointment

08/07/10 - Visa delivered 2 days after interview

08/27/10 - LAX P.O.E.

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Filed: Country: Ecuador
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and after rereading the instructions for the forms (the instructions for each question), it is pretty clear that I need to do the two forms.


I found this website late in my application process, obviously it would have helped earlier in the process... very glad to be here though.

I got married on February 20, 2004.

Filed immidiately afterthat for the I-130, then filled for the fiance visa (and a work visa), gave up on those as the I-130 was approved before the fiance visa, and now i am waiting on the NVC and waiting and waiting and waiting... I am wanting this to end soon.

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Filed: Other Country: El Salvador
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Hello,

Sorry to interrupt... I am going through the same... and I don't know how to answer question 1 in Part 1 of the I-864, "a" or "e". I am petitioning my parents but my husband is also sponsoring (completing the I-864A) since my income is not enough. So, I think it should be "a", I am the petitioner, but I think option "e" is also correct as I am the first of two joint sponsors.. my husband would the second one, correct?

Can somebody clarify that?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!


11/14/2009: I-130 mailed for both parents living abroad

11/16/2009: Packet delivered

11/23/2009: Checks cashed

11/25/2009: NOAs received

02/24/2010: I-30 approved for mother

03/02/2010: Case Number assigned by NVC and registered email addresses

03/04/2010: Rcvd email for AOS and DS-3032 for mom

03/22/2010: I-30 approved for father

03/23/2010: Paid AOS for both parents

03/30/2010: Rcvd email for AOS and DS-3032 for dad

03/31/2010: Emailed DS-3032s from both parents' email addresses

04/06/2010: DS-3032s accepted and Rcvd IV fee bill by email for both parents

04/20/2010: Paid IV fee for both parents

04/24/2010: Mailed both sets of AOS for both parents

04/27/2010: AOS packets delivered

05/25/2010: Mailed DS-230s for both parents

05/28/2010: DS-230s delivered

06/18/2010: RFE- Missing petitioner's marriage and birth certificates **Weird as I mailed both of them**

06/21/2010: Called NVC, case was escalated and a supervisor will review paperwork, I'm to call in 2 weeks!!! grrrrr

07/05/2010: Called NVC one more time, I was told I did not send all the information (not true as I have copies of the documents sent) so I have to send "missing documents" again

07/16/2010: Mailed "missing documents"

07/19/2010: "Missing documents" delivered

07/21/2010: "Missing documents" received and entered in the system

08/19/2010: Sign in FAILED and cases completed per AVR!

09/01/2010: Rcvd email for interviews on 10/21/10. YAY!!!!!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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You are the petitioner. Also known as the primary sponsor in this case.

Your husband is the joint sponsor.


03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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You are the petitioner. Also known as the primary sponsor in this case.

Your husband is the joint sponsor.

That is WRONG.

Your husband is NOT a "JOINT SPONSOR". He is a "HOUSEHOLD MEMBER" who's income you would be using to make the 125% required income.

Here are the difference between a JOINT SPONSOR and a HOUSEHOLD MEMBER:

JOINT SPONSOR:

Doesn't live with you in the same house. Can be someone NOT related to you or the beneficiary.

Need to file a different I-864 aside from yours.

HOUSEHOLD MEMBER:

Lives in your house, can be your dependent, spouse, working kids etc.

Needs to file I-864A as attachment to your I-864.

Hope this helps.

Edited by andresbonifacio

11/05/09 - Sent I-130 for mother via snail mail

11/13/09 - Received NOA1

03/05/10 - Received NOA2

03/11/10 - Case entered into NVC system, MNL case # assigned

03/18/10 - Sent DS3032 via E-mail

03/24/10 - DS3032 entered into NVC system

03/25/10 - Received IV Fee bill by E-mail, PAID both IV and AOS Fees on-line

03/26/10 - AOS Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for 2009 Tax Transcript from IRS)

03/29/10 - IV Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for mother's documents from the Philippines)

04/09/10 - Sent AOS Package by snail mail

04/12/10 - NVC received AOS package

04/19/10 - Sent IV Package by snail mail

04/21/10 - NVC received IV package

04/28/10 - AOS accepted (received checklist re:IV package even if NVC received it already)

05/03/10 - Sign In FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!

05/05/10 - AVR message: "CASE COMPLETED ON 05/04/10"

05/12/10 - Received interview letter via e-mail

05/17-18/10 - Medical Exam

06/16/10 - Interview Appointment @ the Embassy (Canceled because of sputum and culture test, 2 months waiting)

08/05/10 - New Interview Appointment

08/07/10 - Visa delivered 2 days after interview

08/27/10 - LAX P.O.E.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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What I meant and wasn't obvious from my above post is that the "household member" (the husband) IS the "joint sponsor" for the beneficiary, in this case, for all intents and purposes. The "household member" goes on record as the "joint sponsor," or more fittingly, in this case, as the "co-sponsor."

These terms are often used interchangeably. You don't really hear anybody refer to the individual who is acting as their joint sponsor as a "household member" instead, do you? However, my apologies if I caused any unintended confusion.

Yes, he'd fill an I864A and you'd be combining income/assets.

Edited by sachinky

03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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To be clear, the husband is a household member with respect to the petitioner (relative, lives in the same household) but from the point of view of the beneficiary, he is her "joint sponsor" -- not HER household member as she doesn't live in the same household yet.


03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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These terms are often used interchangeably. You don't really hear anybody refer to the individual who is acting as their joint sponsor as a "household member" instead, do you?

well. be careful when you reply next time, your reply would have caused her to check letter "e" on her I-864 which she shouldn't.

To be clear, the husband is a household member with respect to the petitioner (relative, lives in the same household) but from the point of view of the beneficiary, he is her "joint sponsor" -- not HER household member as she doesn't live in the same household yet.

isn't that obvious? duh?!


11/05/09 - Sent I-130 for mother via snail mail

11/13/09 - Received NOA1

03/05/10 - Received NOA2

03/11/10 - Case entered into NVC system, MNL case # assigned

03/18/10 - Sent DS3032 via E-mail

03/24/10 - DS3032 entered into NVC system

03/25/10 - Received IV Fee bill by E-mail, PAID both IV and AOS Fees on-line

03/26/10 - AOS Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for 2009 Tax Transcript from IRS)

03/29/10 - IV Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for mother's documents from the Philippines)

04/09/10 - Sent AOS Package by snail mail

04/12/10 - NVC received AOS package

04/19/10 - Sent IV Package by snail mail

04/21/10 - NVC received IV package

04/28/10 - AOS accepted (received checklist re:IV package even if NVC received it already)

05/03/10 - Sign In FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!

05/05/10 - AVR message: "CASE COMPLETED ON 05/04/10"

05/12/10 - Received interview letter via e-mail

05/17-18/10 - Medical Exam

06/16/10 - Interview Appointment @ the Embassy (Canceled because of sputum and culture test, 2 months waiting)

08/05/10 - New Interview Appointment

08/07/10 - Visa delivered 2 days after interview

08/27/10 - LAX P.O.E.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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Why would she check off "E?" She is clearly the petitioner who has applied for the immigration of an alien relative. That's "a."

If one is unable to read English and interpret literally, then they should not be filling up the forms by themselves, in the first place.

The husband will mark "I'm not the intending immigrant and I'm related to the petitioner as their spouse" on his I-864A.

The instructions are clear on the I-864/I-864A.

There is no need for the "DUH" -- you just told me that I was "WRONG" when I wasn't, actually. The household member (of the petitioner) IS the joint sponsor or co-sponsor (for the beneficiary) and like I said, those terms are used interchangeably. I was just making the distinction about how the husband was a household member from the petitioner's point of view and the joint sponsor from the beneficiary's. Thus, making me not "wrong" when I made my original statement.

The petitioner is always the primary sponsor and the second individual who signs the I-864 or I-864A (if they are a household member) is always the joint sponsor.


03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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sure sir whatever you say. you're the "veteran" here, we're just "noobs" as you've said in the other thread. :)


11/05/09 - Sent I-130 for mother via snail mail

11/13/09 - Received NOA1

03/05/10 - Received NOA2

03/11/10 - Case entered into NVC system, MNL case # assigned

03/18/10 - Sent DS3032 via E-mail

03/24/10 - DS3032 entered into NVC system

03/25/10 - Received IV Fee bill by E-mail, PAID both IV and AOS Fees on-line

03/26/10 - AOS Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for 2009 Tax Transcript from IRS)

03/29/10 - IV Bill showed as PAID (still waiting for mother's documents from the Philippines)

04/09/10 - Sent AOS Package by snail mail

04/12/10 - NVC received AOS package

04/19/10 - Sent IV Package by snail mail

04/21/10 - NVC received IV package

04/28/10 - AOS accepted (received checklist re:IV package even if NVC received it already)

05/03/10 - Sign In FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!

05/05/10 - AVR message: "CASE COMPLETED ON 05/04/10"

05/12/10 - Received interview letter via e-mail

05/17-18/10 - Medical Exam

06/16/10 - Interview Appointment @ the Embassy (Canceled because of sputum and culture test, 2 months waiting)

08/05/10 - New Interview Appointment

08/07/10 - Visa delivered 2 days after interview

08/27/10 - LAX P.O.E.

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