Progressives Want to Track Your Cell Phone

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Even though police are tapping into the locations of mobile phones thousands of times a year, the legal ground rules remain unclear, and federal privacy laws written a generation ago are ambiguous at best. On Friday, the first federal appeals court to consider the topic will hear oral arguments in a case that could establish new standards for locating wireless devices.

In that case, the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

Edited February 11, 2010 by Lone Ranger

[Dan J 277]

Even though police are tapping into the locations of mobile phones thousands of times a year, the legal ground rules remain unclear, and federal privacy laws written a generation ago are ambiguous at best. On Friday, the first federal appeals court to consider the topic will hear oral arguments in a case that could establish new standards for locating wireless devices.

In that case, the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

I think they are correct. Getting location data of a cell phone is not the same as tapping a call. Congress can change that, but i doubt that would happen. I don't think there would be movement on any side to change that.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Even though police are tapping into the locations of mobile phones thousands of times a year, the legal ground rules remain unclear, and federal privacy laws written a generation ago are ambiguous at best. On Friday, the first federal appeals court to consider the topic will hear oral arguments in a case that could establish new standards for locating wireless devices.

In that case, the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts. U.S. Department of Justice lawyers say that "a customer's Fourth Amendment rights are not violated when the phone company reveals to the government its own records" that show where a mobile device placed and received calls.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

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[luckytxn 2,265]

This man truly cares for us so much. He wants to look over us and guide us through this life.

Suffocating love is still love nonetheless.

Was a time to just put a tracking device on a suspects vehicle needed a court order.

[Peikko 1,575]

How do you expect your mobile phone's whereabouts to be private when it's contains gps devicery? Tbh, I can't see any reason that a police person would find my movements in the least bit entertaining either.

[Dan J 277]

Suffocating love is still love nonetheless.

Was a time to just put a tracking device on a suspects vehicle needed a court order.

Two different things.

In your case, that requires invading a persons property. With cell phones, what tower you are connected to and when is all collected by the phone provider. For a lot of data that companies collect about you, there is no obligation by the company to keep that data private, or even require a warrant to had over that data. Often times, companies will comply willingly.

[Ali G. 37]

###### man the government is out to get you guys. You need to get 'off the grid'...

Clowns..

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

How do you expect your mobile phone's whereabouts to be private when it's contains gps devicery? Tbh, I can't see any reason that a police person would find my movements in the least bit entertaining either.

When was the last time you moved?

[Peikko 1,575]

When was the last time you moved?

Want to bet which of us is the more active?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Want to bet which of us is the more active?

At what. chewing the fat or typing?

[Peikko 1,575]

At what. chewing the fat or typing?

Is that all you can manage? No contest then Marc, I win.

[The_Dude 1,142]

This is actually a very useful tool for law enforcement. They cannot listen in on your phone calls without a warrant, and this article, and forthcoming case do NOT address that. It is simply the tracking aspect of it.

[Dan J 277]

This is actually a very useful tool for law enforcement. They cannot listen in on your phone calls without a warrant, and this article, and forthcoming case do NOT address that. It is simply the tracking aspect of it.

It probably won't change because of that. I don't really like it, but i do acknowledge that there currently exists no protection on access to tracking information, and that most companies are willing to give that information way too easily.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Is that all you can manage? No contest then Marc, I win.

Let me know what it costs for the fifty pound bag of bacon rinds and the keyboard. I will pay-pal ya

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

###### man the government is out to get you guys. You need to get 'off the grid'...

Clowns..

My terminator / zombie bunker is nearing completion.

Edited February 11, 2010 by Sousuke