Situation of migrant workers in Europe

[Danno 1,228]

Here, I will make it easy for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

[britty 1]

Do you know what she posted?

No, I missed it!

Damn!

oh it was good Unfortunately it meant i would have to post again and again and again in response to all the those who like to act outraged. Couldn't be bothered...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Part of my ancestry is Native American. Another part is Irish and another English. The early Irish immigrants were often mistreated by the so-called nativists in their day. Some of them went on strike while the nativists wanted them deported. They came here to escape the potato famine...which was caused because of British colonialism. Imagine that. Know your history....it'll completely change your outlook on all immigration matters.

Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent.

Do you think they were the most sober and hardest working immigrants to arrive (legally I might add)?

Problem is, we are so fixated on the Orthodoxy of believing

every fault found about any group is totally baseless when in fact there is in most instances "at least" a kernel of truth, often times more.

Why do you think people today are so much more willing to hire todays "underdogs" (Mexicans) and not the Irish back then?

Is it because we are a much better people now.... or because the Mexican shows up for work, sober... and on weekends ready to work? (which brings the employer profit)

I'm guessing, it took decades to meld the dysfunctions of the "old country" out of the Irish, and now we point to the modern day Irish and pretend... "this" is how they came off the boat to face baseless prejudice.

What the hell are you talking about? Dysfunctional? The Irish immigrants were dysfunctional and that's why they were mistreated? Where do you get such outlandish ideas, Danno? I'd seriously like to know - when was the last time you read a history book and what was the title of the book? Did you even take any history in college? You did college, yes?

Son, this is not about reading History Books only, if it were.... all history books would agree.

This is about knowing what you are even talking about rather then using a book-mark as your every source.

Travel to Africa travel to the former USSR and other places and you can witness even today "dysfunctional" people in massive numbers. Often their nations history accounting for most or all of it.

Clearly you lack even a basic lesson in Irish history, in the centuries during and prior to the Great Immigration wave to America.

At any rate, you have your Orthodoxy and for anyone to "question" it, is alarming.

Now you're just making yourself look even more foolish. You made historical remarks about the Irish immigrants but refuse to cite your source as to how you became enlightened to such truth. If you didn't learn that from a history book, what's the source, Danno, one of those magic 8 balls?

Still no answer. Why the avoidance, Danno? What are you trying to hide?

[Danno 1,228]

Part of my ancestry is Native American. Another part is Irish and another English. The early Irish immigrants were often mistreated by the so-called nativists in their day. Some of them went on strike while the nativists wanted them deported. They came here to escape the potato famine...which was caused because of British colonialism. Imagine that. Know your history....it'll completely change your outlook on all immigration matters.

Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent.

Do you think they were the most sober and hardest working immigrants to arrive (legally I might add)?

Problem is, we are so fixated on the Orthodoxy of believing

every fault found about any group is totally baseless when in fact there is in most instances "at least" a kernel of truth, often times more.

Why do you think people today are so much more willing to hire todays "underdogs" (Mexicans) and not the Irish back then?

Is it because we are a much better people now.... or because the Mexican shows up for work, sober... and on weekends ready to work? (which brings the employer profit)

I'm guessing, it took decades to meld the dysfunctions of the "old country" out of the Irish, and now we point to the modern day Irish and pretend... "this" is how they came off the boat to face baseless prejudice.

What the hell are you talking about? Dysfunctional? The Irish immigrants were dysfunctional and that's why they were mistreated? Where do you get such outlandish ideas, Danno? I'd seriously like to know - when was the last time you read a history book and what was the title of the book? Did you even take any history in college? You did college, yes?

Son, this is not about reading History Books only, if it were.... all history books would agree.

This is about knowing what you are even talking about rather then using a book-mark as your every source.

Travel to Africa travel to the former USSR and other places and you can witness even today "dysfunctional" people in massive numbers. Often their nations history accounting for most or all of it.

Clearly you lack even a basic lesson in Irish history, in the centuries during and prior to the Great Immigration wave to America.

At any rate, you have your Orthodoxy and for anyone to "question" it, is alarming.

Now you're just making yourself look even more foolish. You made historical remarks about the Irish immigrants but refuse to cite your source as to how you became enlightened to such truth. If you didn't learn that from a history book, what's the source, Danno, one of those magic 8 balls?

Still no answer. Why the avoidance, Danno? What are you trying to hide?

Here let me try again, you seemed to miss the ball the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

Take note of the part where Ireland still has not recovered her losses in population since the 1800.

Do you know of any other European country which has less people now than the 1800's?

Now come on Steve, surely you can post more than one liners and old cartoons on the topic.

If you have something meaningful share it.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Part of my ancestry is Native American. Another part is Irish and another English. The early Irish immigrants were often mistreated by the so-called nativists in their day. Some of them went on strike while the nativists wanted them deported. They came here to escape the potato famine...which was caused because of British colonialism. Imagine that. Know your history....it'll completely change your outlook on all immigration matters.

Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent.

Do you think they were the most sober and hardest working immigrants to arrive (legally I might add)?

Problem is, we are so fixated on the Orthodoxy of believing

every fault found about any group is totally baseless when in fact there is in most instances "at least" a kernel of truth, often times more.

Why do you think people today are so much more willing to hire todays "underdogs" (Mexicans) and not the Irish back then?

Is it because we are a much better people now.... or because the Mexican shows up for work, sober... and on weekends ready to work? (which brings the employer profit)

I'm guessing, it took decades to meld the dysfunctions of the "old country" out of the Irish, and now we point to the modern day Irish and pretend... "this" is how they came off the boat to face baseless prejudice.

What the hell are you talking about? Dysfunctional? The Irish immigrants were dysfunctional and that's why they were mistreated? Where do you get such outlandish ideas, Danno? I'd seriously like to know - when was the last time you read a history book and what was the title of the book? Did you even take any history in college? You did college, yes?

Son, this is not about reading History Books only, if it were.... all history books would agree.

This is about knowing what you are even talking about rather then using a book-mark as your every source.

Travel to Africa travel to the former USSR and other places and you can witness even today "dysfunctional" people in massive numbers. Often their nations history accounting for most or all of it.

Clearly you lack even a basic lesson in Irish history, in the centuries during and prior to the Great Immigration wave to America.

At any rate, you have your Orthodoxy and for anyone to "question" it, is alarming.

Now you're just making yourself look even more foolish. You made historical remarks about the Irish immigrants but refuse to cite your source as to how you became enlightened to such truth. If you didn't learn that from a history book, what's the source, Danno, one of those magic 8 balls?

Still no answer. Why the avoidance, Danno? What are you trying to hide?

Here let me try again, you seemed to miss the ball the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

Take note of the part where Ireland still has not recovered her losses in population since the 1800.

Do you know of any other European country which has less people now than the 1800's?

Now come on Steve, surely you can post more than one liners and old cartoons on the topic.

If you have something meaningful share it.

Danno, it's really not complicated. I asked you where you got your information about Irish immigrants from. What are you hiding? Just tell me the last history course you've taken or history book you've read so we can move on.

Edited October 9, 2009 by Col. 'Bat' Guano

[Danno 1,228]

Part of my ancestry is Native American. Another part is Irish and another English. The early Irish immigrants were often mistreated by the so-called nativists in their day. Some of them went on strike while the nativists wanted them deported. They came here to escape the potato famine...which was caused because of British colonialism. Imagine that. Know your history....it'll completely change your outlook on all immigration matters.

Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent.

Do you think they were the most sober and hardest working immigrants to arrive (legally I might add)?

Problem is, we are so fixated on the Orthodoxy of believing

every fault found about any group is totally baseless when in fact there is in most instances "at least" a kernel of truth, often times more.

Why do you think people today are so much more willing to hire todays "underdogs" (Mexicans) and not the Irish back then?

Is it because we are a much better people now.... or because the Mexican shows up for work, sober... and on weekends ready to work? (which brings the employer profit)

I'm guessing, it took decades to meld the dysfunctions of the "old country" out of the Irish, and now we point to the modern day Irish and pretend... "this" is how they came off the boat to face baseless prejudice.

What the hell are you talking about? Dysfunctional? The Irish immigrants were dysfunctional and that's why they were mistreated? Where do you get such outlandish ideas, Danno? I'd seriously like to know - when was the last time you read a history book and what was the title of the book? Did you even take any history in college? You did college, yes?

Son, this is not about reading History Books only, if it were.... all history books would agree.

This is about knowing what you are even talking about rather then using a book-mark as your every source.

Travel to Africa travel to the former USSR and other places and you can witness even today "dysfunctional" people in massive numbers. Often their nations history accounting for most or all of it.

Clearly you lack even a basic lesson in Irish history, in the centuries during and prior to the Great Immigration wave to America.

At any rate, you have your Orthodoxy and for anyone to "question" it, is alarming.

Now you're just making yourself look even more foolish. You made historical remarks about the Irish immigrants but refuse to cite your source as to how you became enlightened to such truth. If you didn't learn that from a history book, what's the source, Danno, one of those magic 8 balls?

Still no answer. Why the avoidance, Danno? What are you trying to hide?

Here let me try again, you seemed to miss the ball the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

Take note of the part where Ireland still has not recovered her losses in population since the 1800.

Do you know of any other European country which has less people now than the 1800's?

Now come on Steve, surely you can post more than one liners and old cartoons on the topic.

If you have something meaningful share it.

Danno, it's really not complicated. I asked you where you got your information about Irish immigrants from. What are you hiding? Just tell me the last history course you've taken or history book you've read so we can move on.

IF you are questioning my comments about the Irish "in" America and the possible reasons which lead to discrimination... That was all conjecture based on what I know to be true today.

How did you conclude anything else when I wrote:

"Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent."

The only thing I have represented as fact is the prolonged period of Starvation, domination, powerlessness war and poverty which can cause dysfunction in people on the wholesale level.

As for my book list and courses of study,

[one...two...tree 2,762]

IF you are questioning my comments about the Irish "in" America and the possible reasons which lead to discrimination... That was all conjecture based on what I know to be true today.

How did you conclude anything else when I wrote:

"Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent."

The only thing I have represented as fact is the prolonged period of Starvation, domination, powerlessness war and poverty which can cause dysfunction in people on the wholesale level.

As for my book list and courses of study,

So you feel content making wild generalizations about the Irish immigrants based on your own simple observations? That's very academic of you. No wonder you keep hiding your educational background in history because you don't have one. I guess some people are content with being ignorant, making ignorant statements about the Irish. You might want to save yourself the embarrassment by not actually expressing your ignorance about the Irish to others in real life.

Edited October 10, 2009 by Col. 'Bat' Guano

[spookyturtle 9,466]

IF you are questioning my comments about the Irish "in" America and the possible reasons which lead to discrimination... That was all conjecture based on what I know to be true today.

How did you conclude anything else when I wrote:

"Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent."

The only thing I have represented as fact is the prolonged period of Starvation, domination, powerlessness war and poverty which can cause dysfunction in people on the wholesale level.

As for my book list and courses of study,

So you feel content making wild generalizations about the Irish immigrants based on your own simple observations? That's very academic of you. No wonder you keep hiding your educational background in history because you don't have one. I guess some people are content with being ignorant, making ignorant statements about the Irish. You might want to save yourself the embarrassment by not actually expressing your ignorance about the Irish to others in real life.

Let me think, there is another user here who makes wild generalizations about various races and nationalities too, but I can't remember who it is.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

IF you are questioning my comments about the Irish "in" America and the possible reasons which lead to discrimination... That was all conjecture based on what I know to be true today.

How did you conclude anything else when I wrote:

"Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent."

The only thing I have represented as fact is the prolonged period of Starvation, domination, powerlessness war and poverty which can cause dysfunction in people on the wholesale level.

As for my book list and courses of study,

So you feel content making wild generalizations about the Irish immigrants based on your own simple observations? That's very academic of you. No wonder you keep hiding your educational background in history because you don't have one. I guess some people are content with being ignorant, making ignorant statements about the Irish. You might want to save yourself the embarrassment by not actually expressing your ignorance about the Irish to others in real life.

Why dont you change your name to the wild general? After all its what you do best, besides sticking up for guys with abnormally small penises!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

IF you are questioning my comments about the Irish "in" America and the possible reasons which lead to discrimination... That was all conjecture based on what I know to be true today.

How did you conclude anything else when I wrote:

"Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent."

The only thing I have represented as fact is the prolonged period of Starvation, domination, powerlessness war and poverty which can cause dysfunction in people on the wholesale level.

As for my book list and courses of study,

So you feel content making wild generalizations about the Irish immigrants based on your own simple observations? That's very academic of you. No wonder you keep hiding your educational background in history because you don't have one. I guess some people are content with being ignorant, making ignorant statements about the Irish. You might want to save yourself the embarrassment by not actually expressing your ignorance about the Irish to others in real life.

And you sure are an expert on

Why dont you change your name to the wild general? After all its what you do best, besides sticking up for guys with abnormally small penises!

And you sure are an expert on penises.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

IF you are questioning my comments about the Irish "in" America and the possible reasons which lead to discrimination... That was all conjecture based on what I know to be true today.

How did you conclude anything else when I wrote:

"Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent."

The only thing I have represented as fact is the prolonged period of Starvation, domination, powerlessness war and poverty which can cause dysfunction in people on the wholesale level.

As for my book list and courses of study,

So you feel content making wild generalizations about the Irish immigrants based on your own simple observations? That's very academic of you. No wonder you keep hiding your educational background in history because you don't have one. I guess some people are content with being ignorant, making ignorant statements about the Irish. You might want to save yourself the embarrassment by not actually expressing your ignorance about the Irish to others in real life.

And you sure are an expert on

Why dont you change your name to the wild general? After all its what you do best, besides sticking up for guys with abnormally small penises!

And you sure are an expert on penises.

Thanks Professor!

[HYENA 4]

Part of my ancestry is Native American. Another part is Irish and another English. The early Irish immigrants were often mistreated by the so-called nativists in their day. Some of them went on strike while the nativists wanted them deported. They came here to escape the potato famine...which was caused because of British colonialism. Imagine that. Know your history....it'll completely change your outlook on all immigration matters.

Steve I have "Irish" in me as well, but I would bet "The Irish" were a dysfunctional lot when they got here.

I find it hard to believe no one liked them simply because of their accent.

Do you think they were the most sober and hardest working immigrants to arrive (legally I might add)?

Problem is, we are so fixated on the Orthodoxy of believing

every fault found about any group is totally baseless when in fact there is in most instances "at least" a kernel of truth, often times more.

Why do you think people today are so much more willing to hire todays "underdogs" (Mexicans) and not the Irish back then?

Is it because we are a much better people now.... or because the Mexican shows up for work, sober... and on weekends ready to work? (which brings the employer profit)

I'm guessing, it took decades to meld the dysfunctions of the "old country" out of the Irish, and now we point to the modern day Irish and pretend... "this" is how they came off the boat to face baseless prejudice.

What the hell are you talking about? Dysfunctional? The Irish immigrants were dysfunctional and that's why they were mistreated? Where do you get such outlandish ideas, Danno? I'd seriously like to know - when was the last time you read a history book and what was the title of the book? Did you even take any history in college? You did college, yes?

Son, this is not about reading History Books only, if it were.... all history books would agree.

This is about knowing what you are even talking about rather then using a book-mark as your every source.

Travel to Africa travel to the former USSR and other places and you can witness even today "dysfunctional" people in massive numbers. Often their nations history accounting for most or all of it.

Clearly you lack even a basic lesson in Irish history, in the centuries during and prior to the Great Immigration wave to America.

At any rate, you have your Orthodoxy and for anyone to "question" it, is alarming.

Now you're just making yourself look even more foolish. You made historical remarks about the Irish immigrants but refuse to cite your source as to how you became enlightened to such truth. If you didn't learn that from a history book, what's the source, Danno, one of those magic 8 balls?

Still no answer. Why the avoidance, Danno? What are you trying to hide?

Here let me try again, you seemed to miss the ball the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

Take note of the part where Ireland still has not recovered her losses in population since the 1800.

Do you know of any other European country which has less people now than the 1800's?

Now come on Steve, surely you can post more than one liners and old cartoons on the topic.

If you have something meaningful share it.

I'd say because the UK made Ireland it's ###### so it's no fun being there anymore....

[Pooky 3,876]

I'd say because the UK made Ireland it's ###### so it's no fun being there anymore....

I think the Irish themselves, the Scots, the Spanish and a whole bundle of leprechauns had a touch more to do with it than the UK, which didn't even exist until the partitioning of Ireland into Eire and the North.

Now the English may have driven Ireland to where they are now, but they certainly did not do it alone.