Deceived,Horror story of marring a foriegn wife

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I may get flamed for saying this but....I'd play the sleeping wolf if she really is a scammer. Agree to help with her ROC (even suggest doing it for her)...then simply let the application sit. Or she does it, either never go to the interview with her or go and proclaim what she is and provide whatever proof is needed. What you shouldn't do is divorce her which removes you from her case entirely. Then she only needs to prove the relationship is in good faith.

Once she is denied and removal proceedings then divorce.

If there is no risk of her being a public charge...just let her go live her life.

Edited September 21, 2009 by lancer1655

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I may get flamed for saying this but....I'd play the sleeping wolf if she really is a scammer. Agree to help with her ROC (even suggest doing it for her)...then simply let the application sit. Or she does it, either never go to the interview with her or go and proclaim what she is and provide whatever proof is needed. What you shouldn't do is divorce her which removes you from her case entirely. Then she only needs to prove the relationship is in good faith.

lancer.... remember that suggesting to do anything against the spirit of the law is against VJ terms of service dude.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I may get flamed for saying this but....I'd play the sleeping wolf if she really is a scammer. Agree to help with her ROC (even suggest doing it for her)...then simply let the application sit. Or she does it, either never go to the interview with her or go and proclaim what she is and provide whatever proof is needed. What you shouldn't do is divorce her which removes you from her case entirely. Then she only needs to prove the relationship is in good faith.

lancer.... remember that suggesting to do anything against the spirit of the law is against VJ terms of service dude.

Where is it against the law? In the interview you must always tell the truth, thats what I am saying should be done.

Edited September 21, 2009 by lancer1655

[TBoneTX 43,060]

lancer.... remember that suggesting to do anything against the spirit of the law is against VJ terms of service dude.

Where is it against the law? In the interview you must always tell the truth, thats what I am saying should be done.

Sister Len -- not sure that I immediately see how Brother Lancer's suggestion is against the law, actually or spiritudinally.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

lancer.... remember that suggesting to do anything against the spirit of the law is against VJ terms of service dude.

Where is it against the law? In the interview you must always tell the truth, thats what I am saying should be done.

Sister Len -- not sure that I immediately see how Brother Lancer's suggestion is against the law, actually or spiritudinally.

Love that one

I know, lancer is my hommie. I was just throwing the reminder there... not cool to advise "well, pretend that you...." whatever else.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Its certainly not the most moral road to take I'll give you that. It really depends on the person's situation. Because we can't see the other side of the coin, I suspect that this is probably not a scamming situation so much as a relationship that was never properly thought out and just went sour.

Edited September 21, 2009 by lancer1655

[TBoneTX 43,060]

a relationship that... just went sour.

Kinda reminds me of Aesop's fable (?) about the fox & the grapes: "Well, the relationship was probably sour anyway, si man." (Not sure if the fox said "si, man," but, spiritudinously, he should've, si man.)

It's certainly not the most moral road to take

Remember, si man: "When you swim in the creek and an eel bites your cheek, that's a-moray...", si man. Edited September 21, 2009 by TBoneTX

[SMR 368]

I believe it is the threat of her being on welfare/medicaid and the associated possibility of the goverment wanting him to repay those services provided which is why witholding her residency is key. Ultimately, one must move on, that is for sure. Thanks for your comment.

Divorced or not, he is on the hook for 10 years. He signed the Affidavit of Support; which is a contract between him and the US Government. And divorce does not make it null.

True, divorce doesn't make it null. But making sure that she doesn't receive the 10-year green card does. She has to leave the country and she loses permanent residency. Her loss of permanent residency nullifies the I-865 unless I am mistaken.

Edited September 21, 2009 by SMR

[3600rs 24]

I may get flamed for saying this but....I'd play the sleeping wolf if she really is a scammer. Agree to help with her ROC (even suggest doing it for her)...then simply let the application sit. Or she does it, either never go to the interview with her or go and proclaim what she is and provide whatever proof is needed. What you shouldn't do is divorce her which removes you from her case entirely. Then she only needs to prove the relationship is in good faith.

Once she is denied and removal proceedings then divorce.

If there is no risk of her being a public charge...just let her go live her life.

Educate me lancer. She can very well divorce the USC by herself right? Even if the USC tries to delay the divorce waiting for a denial and subsequent removal..thanks

Len: good advice.

Edited September 21, 2009 by 3600rs

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I may get flamed for saying this but....I'd play the sleeping wolf if she really is a scammer. Agree to help with her ROC (even suggest doing it for her)...then simply let the application sit. Or she does it, either never go to the interview with her or go and proclaim what she is and provide whatever proof is needed. What you shouldn't do is divorce her which removes you from her case entirely. Then she only needs to prove the relationship is in good faith.

Once she is denied and removal proceedings then divorce.

If there is no risk of her being a public charge...just let her go live her life.

Educate me lancer. She can very well divorce the USC by herself right? Even if the USC tries to delay the divorce waiting for a denial and subsequent removal..thanks

Len: good advice.

Well it depends on the state. To say that someone can just get a divorce on their own is true but takes time. Also some states require waiting periods. Either way it appears she needs to file relatively soon and with no divorce and no waivers he is very much still a part of her process at this point in time.

Edited September 21, 2009 by lancer1655

[rika60607 215]

If they are not divorced by the time she needs to file I751, removal proceedings will begin. She will go in front of Immigration Judge and ask for continueancy of status until divorce is complete. If she shows enough evidence of bona fide marriage, IJ will grant her that. Eventually divorce will become final and she will be able to file I751 by herself with a perfect excuse for late filing (uncooperative spouse delaying divorce).

Procrustination with divorce will only create more costs (lawyer fees) and aggravation for both parties involved.

[3600rs 24]

If they are not divorced by the time she needs to file I751, removal proceedings will begin. She will go in front of Immigration Judge and ask for continueancy of status until divorce is complete. If she shows enough evidence of bona fide marriage, IJ will grant her that. Eventually divorce will become final and she will be able to file I751 by herself with a perfect excuse for late filing (uncooperative spouse delaying divorce).

Procrustination with divorce will only create more costs (lawyer fees) and aggravation for both parties involved.

right on! 5 star answer. Bottom line - there is nothing the USC can do without hard evidence of fraud.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

If they are not divorced by the time she needs to file I751, removal proceedings will begin. She will go in front of Immigration Judge and ask for continueancy of status until divorce is complete. If she shows enough evidence of bona fide marriage, IJ will grant her that. Eventually divorce will become final and she will be able to file I751 by herself with a perfect excuse for late filing (uncooperative spouse delaying divorce).

Procrustination with divorce will only create more costs (lawyer fees) and aggravation for both parties involved.

That's not what I was suggesting anyway.

Edited September 21, 2009 by lancer1655

[3600rs 24]

If they are not divorced by the time she needs to file I751, removal proceedings will begin. She will go in front of Immigration Judge and ask for continueancy of status until divorce is complete. If she shows enough evidence of bona fide marriage, IJ will grant her that. Eventually divorce will become final and she will be able to file I751 by herself with a perfect excuse for late filing (uncooperative spouse delaying divorce).

Procrustination with divorce will only create more costs (lawyer fees) and aggravation for both parties involved.

That's not what I was suggesting anyway.

Well, that may not be your suggestion, but that can very well be the outcome!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

If they are not divorced by the time she needs to file I751, removal proceedings will begin. She will go in front of Immigration Judge and ask for continueancy of status until divorce is complete. If she shows enough evidence of bona fide marriage, IJ will grant her that. Eventually divorce will become final and she will be able to file I751 by herself with a perfect excuse for late filing (uncooperative spouse delaying divorce).

Procrustination with divorce will only create more costs (lawyer fees) and aggravation for both parties involved.

That's not what I was suggesting anyway.

Well, that may not be your suggestion, but that can very well be the outcome!

Obviously if she wants a divorce my idea won't work now will it......