Is the President racist against White People?

[zqt3344 21]

After Obama appointed Van Jones as the Green Jobs Czar, he suddenly has him resign only after numerous audio and video speeches of Van Jones come out and all the while proclaiming to be a "Communist " and that "White polluters were killing all the black citizens!" I mean how could someone as smart or omnipotent at Obama be so clueless to this type of reverse racism? And by the way what is he doing associating or even knowing these kind of people? But why should this not suprise anyone he went to church with a racist preacher for over 20 years, had him marry him, and only after he was forced to cut ties with Jermiah Wright did he finally do it, doubt Obama would ever do that if he were not President now. Truly disturbing fact about our Change Agent in the White House!

[Ban Hammer 14,304]

zqt, no one said what kind of change it would be.........

[tmma 467]

i see a mod---I'm IB4TL!

[zqt3344 21]

Good point. Been an eye opener that is for sure. No wonder so many people are upset at these town hall meetings. It is a mess out here in the general populace.

zqt, no one said what kind of change it would be.........

[SMR 368]

Remember Henry Gates and Sergeant Crowley. If you do some research, you'll see that Gates has a lot of pent up racism, too. I don't know about Obama, but he has a lot of questionable friends. You can't chalk it up to growing up in the black community because he didn't. One blatantly racist, radical friend could be explained by chance. 3 is already a pattern.

[onuche 0]

Remember Henry Gates and Sergeant Crowley. If you do some research, you'll see that Gates has a lot of pent up racism, too. I don't know about Obama, but he has a lot of questionable friends. You can't chalk it up to growing up in the black community because he didn't. One blatantly racist, radical friend could be explained by chance. 3 is already a pattern.

You people are so funny, so Presidents now appoint people to positions based on friends? give me a break. Please always keep things in perspective. So is George Bush (whom i still support anyway) responsible for everything those he appointed said or did before he appointed them?

Its laughable when people come here sputting talking points they heard on the TV or radio.

[SMR 368]

Remember Henry Gates and Sergeant Crowley. If you do some research, you'll see that Gates has a lot of pent up racism, too. I don't know about Obama, but he has a lot of questionable friends. You can't chalk it up to growing up in the black community because he didn't. One blatantly racist, radical friend could be explained by chance. 3 is already a pattern.

You people are so funny, so Presidents now appoint people to positions based on friends? give me a break. Please always keep things in perspective. So is George Bush (whom i still support anyway) responsible for everything those he appointed said or did before he appointed them?

Its laughable when people come here sputting talking points they heard on the TV or radio.

I use friend somewhat loosely. Van Jones is an associate of the president. Wright and Gates are/were friends in the direct sense of the word.

By suggesting that I think a President should be responsible for everything that his appointees said in the past, you prove you didn't read and understand my post. If one Bush appointee had turned out to be a former grand wizard, it wouldn't necessarily be telling (especially if his life as a grand wizard had been covered up). But if he also had several friends from his past who spew racist hate speech, it would mean more. Remember that Van Jones past wasn't really covered up (and couldn't be in the days of Google, etc.) So either Obama knew, or he didn't vet him on even an elementary level.

And to the point, it isn't about one person from Obama's past or cabinet. It's the fact that Obama's friends and associates seem to have a much larger concentration of racists and radicals than America at large.

Edited September 9, 2009 by SMR

[The Dude 206]

[PlatyPius 5]

*yawn*

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Notice the libs not addressing the issue, but washing their hands of the situation.

[The Dude 206]

Notice the libs not addressing the issue, but washing their hands of the situation.

Thats rich coming from someone who rarely ever makes a point himself. I see you did get your catchphrase "libruls" in there. Do post more to illustrate your rudimentary language skills.

[Danno 1,228]

Well I suspect Obama just has a huge racial Chip on his shoulder rather than being a full blown racist.

Of course it's a little perplexing to many as "The WHITE SYSTEM" and white people have been pretty good to him.

This topic reminds me of the old saying "Tell me about your friends and I will tell you about yourself"

No one joins a Church whose focus is so keen on race by accident, as Obamer did.

For those who havn't seen it, here is the Value system they adhere to.

Replace "Black for "white" and tell me how acceptable it would be.

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http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?op...view&id=114

THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981.

Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ. Prayerfully, we have called upon the wisdom of all past generations of suffering Blacks for guidance in fashioning an instrument of Black self-determination, the Black Value System.

Beginning in 1982, an annual Black Value System - Educational Scholarship in the name of Dr. Byrd was instituted. The first recipient of the Dr. Manford Byrd Award, which is given annually to the man or woman who best exemplifies the Black Value System, was our brother, Dr. Manford Byrd.

These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They consist of the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God. "The God of our weary years" will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind. Matthew 22:37 - Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

2. Commitment to the Black Community. The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of strength and continuity of the Black Community. I John 4:20 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother [or his sister], he is a liar; for he that loveth not his brother or sister whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

3. Commitment to the Black Family. The Black family circle must generate strength, stability and love, despite the uncertainty of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to withstand warping by our racist competitive society. Those Blacks who are blessed with membership in a strong family unit must reach out and expand that blessing to the less fortunate. Deuteronomy 6:6-8 - And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education. We must forswear anti-intellectualism. Continued survival demands that each Black person be developed to the utmost of his/her mental potential despite the inadequacies of the formal education process. “Real education” fosters understanding of ourselves as well as every aspect of our environment. Also, it develops within us the ability to fashion concepts and tools for better utilization of our resources, and more effective solutions to our problems. Since the majority of Blacks have been denied such learning, Black Education must include elements that produce high school graduates with marketable skills, a trade or qualifications for apprenticeships, or proper preparation for college. Basic education for all Blacks should include Mathematics, Science, Logic, General Semantics, Participative Politics, Economics and Finance, and the Care and Nurture of Black minds. Matthew 22:37 - Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul and with all thy mind.

5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence. To the extent that we individually reach for, even strain for excellence, we increase, geometrically, the value and resourcefulness of the Black Community. We must recognize the relativity of one’s best; this year’s best can be bettered next year. Such is the language of growth and development. We must seek to excel in every endeavor. Ecclesiastes 9:10 - Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic. "It is becoming harder to find qualified people to work in Chicago." Whether this is true or not, it represents one of the many reasons given by businesses and industries for deserting the Chicago area. We must realize that a location with good facilities, adequate transportation and a reputation for producing skilled workers will attract industry. We are in competition with other cities, states and nations for jobs. High productivity must be a goal of the Black workforce. II Thessalonians 3:7-12 - For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labor and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect. To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources, instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self-discipline, coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of Black Progress and a model for Black Youth. I Peter 1:4-7 - To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.

8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness." Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the "talented tenth" of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor's control. Proverbs 3:13-14 - Happy are those who find wisdom and those who gain understanding, for her income is better than silver and her revenue better than gold.

Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:

* Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

* Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.

* Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of "we" and "they" instead of "us."

* So, while it is permissible to chase "middleclassness" with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method - the psychological entrapment of Black "middleclassness." If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our "voluntary" contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.

9. Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the Black Community.

10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions.

11. Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System.

12. Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom.

[PlatyPius 5]

Notice the libs not addressing the issue, but washing their hands of the situation.

It's a non-issue. Hence, no need to address.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Notice the libs not addressing the issue, but washing their hands of the situation.

Thats rich coming from someone who rarely ever makes a point himself. I see you did get your catchphrase "libruls" in there. Do post more to illustrate your rudimentary language skills.

Will do. Thanks for admitting to being the kettle though.

Notice the libs not addressing the issue, but washing their hands of the situation.

It's a non-issue. Hence, no need to address.

Thats your excuse for anything you can't answer for.

[The Dude 206]

If only the real issues were truely as controvercial in reality as they are in your mind Danno.