Words You Won't Hear in Canadian Health Care

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The reason you dont hear many negatives about canadian HC is cuz their all DEAD!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The reason you dont hear many negatives about canadian HC is cuz their all DEAD!

Brainz to go?

[thetreble 19]

liberals are all for "tolerance" and "diversity" until someone disagrees with them or is determined to be different from them.

Thank god I'm not 45. I'm quite happy being in my 20s still, thanks. I don't have the sagging #### and tits yet, you know?

I'm tolerant of your opinion, justashooter. What I'm not tolerant of is taking it as far as you know what it's like to live through the system.

I've worked since I was 16 and I've paid my fair effing share the whole way so far, and I plan to for the rest of my years. I don't give a ###### what the government does to me because I won't change anything so why should I bother. I spend my time thinking about vacation and how I can spend time with my loved ones, not how the government is going to take another "BUCK", and yes, for me individually, if they decided to impliment socialized healthcare in the US it wouldn't be a million dollars a year per person which is what you are making it sound like...

As for what I do for the government, it's really none of your business. I work 50 hours a week in my 35 hour a week position and am over worked and underpaid. So, want to supplement what I Should really be earning in over time?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

liberals are all for "tolerance" and "diversity" until someone disagrees with them or is determined to be different from them.

Yeah and conservatives don't even try to be tolerant, they just like to complain about how suppressed and victimised they are.

There - generalism for generalism. Can we get any more ridiculous or irrelevant?

[HAL 9000 96]

But according to some retards here, your family members don't deserve this because they can't afford it.

Hope all turns out well for you guys.

so you're calling us "retards" because we don't want to pay someone else's bills?

PM me your address and i'll send you my mortgage bill and utility bills for this month. pay them, or STFU.

Oh another one of those.

You can also send me some plane tix and we can square away like on Jeopardy.

Somehow I don't think you skimmed over the part about things not being free but oh well- that is no huge surprise in any light.

So... you can shut thyself with thy owne foot.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

liberals are all for "tolerance" and "diversity" until someone disagrees with them or is determined to be different from them.

Yeah and conservatives don't even try to be tolerant, they just like to complain about how suppressed and victimised they are.

There - generalism for generalism. Can we get any more ridiculous or irrelevant?

Have a cookie. Or better yet! a milkbone doggie treat.

Edited July 22, 2009 by ={Rogue}=

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

liberals are all for "tolerance" and "diversity" until someone disagrees with them or is determined to be different from them.

Yeah and conservatives don't even try to be tolerant, they just like to complain about how suppressed and victimised they are.

There - generalism for generalism. Can we get any more ridiculous or irrelevant?

Have a cookie. Or better yet! a milkbone doggie treat.

Sounds like the conservatives are the ones in need of the cookie. After all they are the ones forever bleating about bias in the media and how their views are always put down by the evil college educated socialist elites.

Edited July 22, 2009 by Private Pike

[Ban Hammer 14,307]

The reason you dont hear many negatives about canadian HC is cuz their all DEAD!

or just maybe, because talking in sub-zero temps can freeze your lungs.

[HAL 9000 96]

The reason you dont hear many negatives about canadian HC is cuz their all DEAD!

or just maybe, because talking in sub-zero temps can freeze your lungs.

or slow down diseases. Charles you might be on to something there ey.

[KarenCee 3]

liberals are all for "tolerance" and "diversity" until someone disagrees with them or is determined to be different from them.

Thank god I'm not 45. I'm quite happy being in my 20s still, thanks. I don't have the sagging #### and tits yet, you know?

I'm tolerant of your opinion, justashooter. What I'm not tolerant of is taking it as far as you know what it's like to live through the system.

I've worked since I was 16 and I've paid my fair effing share the whole way so far, and I plan to for the rest of my years. I don't give a ###### what the government does to me because I won't change anything so why should I bother. I spend my time thinking about vacation and how I can spend time with my loved ones, not how the government is going to take another "BUCK", and yes, for me individually, if they decided to impliment socialized healthcare in the US it wouldn't be a million dollars a year per person which is what you are making it sound like...

As for what I do for the government, it's really none of your business. I work 50 hours a week in my 35 hour a week position and am over worked and underpaid. So, want to supplement what I Should really be earning in over time?

Not to digress here but....what's the deal with being 45...or 46...or whatever? Not every 45 yo woman has sagging tits and azz. Glad you're happy in your 20's...but I've seen some 20 something yo women looking just like you described.

Just sayin.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Despite the wide gaps, higher spending on health care does not necessarily prolong lives. In 2000, theUnited States spent more on health care than any other country in the world: an average of $ 4,500 per person. Switzerland was second highest, at $3,300 or 71% of the US. Nevertheless, average US life expectancy ranks 27^th in the world, at 77 years. Many countries achieve higher life expectancy rates with significantly lower spending. The chart below shows the top 30 countries in the world ranked by life expectancy. The red line indicates per-capita health expenditure (right axis), and shows that many countries outperform the US with approximately half the spending.

The chart (right) also highlights the sharp contrast between the US and Cuba. With a life expectancy of 76.9 years, Cuba ranks 28^th in the world, just behind the US. However, its spending per person on health care is one of the lowest in the world, at $186, or about 1/25 the spending of the United States. There are other cases where high life expectancies are achieved with low spending on health care. The scattergraph (below) shows the relation between per-capita health care expenditure and average life expectancy for 2000. Countries with higher spending generally have longer life expectancy rates, but there are also many countries that perform nearly as well with much lower spending.

source: http://ucatlas.ucsc.edu/spend.php

USA #1... In spending only. What we get for it appears to be negligible.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Policy Priorities Have a Large Influence Beyond Per-Capita Spending
One reason for the discrepancy between spending and longevity is that these numbers are average life expectancies and per-capita spending rates, which mask inequalities. For example, the US Health and Human Services department found that people with lower incomes and less education tended to die younger. Life expectancy also varied by ethnicity. In 1998 life expectancy among white Americans was 76.8 years, while African Americans lived an average of 70.2 years. (See Intracountry Inequality). Another reason some countries achieve high life expectancy with low health spending is that clean drinking water and preventive health care can be provided with little spending. If there is near universal clean water and preventive care, life expectancy rates can be high. In the US, however, nearly 40 million Americans lack basic health insurance, and are therefore less likely to receive preventive care. In contrast, Cuba has universal health care and one of the highest doctor-to-patient ratios in the world (See Physicians). Although Cuba has limited resources and many economic problems, it has made health care a priority. It is not alone. Sri Lanka, China and the Indian State of Kerala are considered "low-income, high well-being" countries, which have adopted policies that not only reduce inequality but also increase overall health and well-being. The results of these policy priorities are significant, and can be measured in survival indicators, such as average life expectancy.

[same source as above post]

I guess the damn dirty liberals would be better off insisting on clean water, how dare they insist on that! This is America, and if the powers that be want us to drink swill, drink swill we shall! Always wanting someone else to provide clean water for them...

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Also note, per the OP, we spend nearly twice as much per capita for medical care as Canada. So the whole, Canada sucks and the system would be too costly for Americans to stomach argument is just as bogus as the false claims that Canada's health care system is a nightmare.

Roll on right wing zealots with nothing in terms of actual, factual reality to back your fear mongering!

[SomberCat 0]

liberals are all for "tolerance" and "diversity" until someone disagrees with them or is determined to be different from them.

Thank god I'm not 45. I'm quite happy being in my 20s still, thanks. I don't have the sagging #### and tits yet, you know?

I'm tolerant of your opinion, justashooter. What I'm not tolerant of is taking it as far as you know what it's like to live through the system.

I've worked since I was 16 and I've paid my fair effing share the whole way so far, and I plan to for the rest of my years. I don't give a ###### what the government does to me because I won't change anything so why should I bother. I spend my time thinking about vacation and how I can spend time with my loved ones, not how the government is going to take another "BUCK", and yes, for me individually, if they decided to impliment socialized healthcare in the US it wouldn't be a million dollars a year per person which is what you are making it sound like...

As for what I do for the government, it's really none of your business. I work 50 hours a week in my 35 hour a week position and am over worked and underpaid. So, want to supplement what I Should really be earning in over time?

Not to digress here but....what's the deal with being 45...or 46...or whatever? Not every 45 yo woman has sagging tits and azz. Glad you're happy in your 20's...but I've seen some 20 something yo women looking just like you described.

Just sayin.

Well said BertieMae. I was wondering if I was the only woman around that found that comment interesting. Maybe because 40's right around the corner, for me, but what did the ageism remark have to do with healthcare? Is the new US system going to pay for an a$$ and ####### lift so I can look better in my old age?

[HAL 9000 96]

Also note, per the OP, we spend nearly twice as much per capita for medical care as Canada. So the whole, Canada sucks and the system would be too costly for Americans to stomach argument is just as bogus as the false claims that Canada's health care system is a nightmare.

Roll on right wing zealots with nothing in terms of actual, factual reality to back your fear mongering!

Sadly, fear mongering works on and for many Americans.