Landed in JFK after 10 months of absence from the US and with a Conditional Green Card still valid for a day only.

[3600rs 24]

Sorry to add to this loathsome bitter cranky thread which restricts freedom. Roses for all. . I am going to enjoy my weekend with a bottle of Grey Goose. Thats why I love weekends.

[dutchmatt 1]

Becoming a USC doesn't mean you lose citizenship of your home country automatically. You'd have to denounce it yourself.

[wexford65 0]

It is a little more complex than that and unfortunately different based upon a country by country basis.

Canada for example does not recognize the US oath and therefore they consider you to remain a Canadian citizen unless, as you state, you denounce it. This is not so for all countries.

Anyway, this was not my point. I personally would not want to follow the USC path for other reasons in my prior post which don't relate to this issue.

Becoming a USC doesn't mean you lose citizenship of your home country automatically. You'd have to denounce it yourself.

Edited July 17, 2009 by wexford65

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

I think we got sidetracked here. Nonetheless, what happens to the "old" citizenship of a newly naturalized USC varies from country to country. Some countries do not even recognize the US citizenship and the citizen automatically remains citizen of that country. Other coutries automatically consider the original citizenship renounced once somebody becomes a US citizen. Some countries allow dual citizenship, others don't.

I think, becoming citizen of another country is a big step. It all depend on whether somebody wants to live in the US for the rest of their lives and considers it home.

When I read people posting here about flying "home" and then coming back to the US, I don't think they are ready to become US citizens at heart. They might become it for practical reasons, though, and if their "home" country allows dual citizenship, more power to them.

Otherwise, it's okay to be a permanent resident of the US, and remain citizen of the country one calls "home." Remember, home is where the heart is . . .

Edited July 17, 2009 by Just Bob

[dagnytaggart 0]

I never really understand why people don't want US citizenship unless their home country does not recognize it. I'd get it just for the ease of travel, imagine you can home for 6 years and then come back to the US no questions asked.

My husband dose not plan to go for citizenship. There are many reasons why someone might not want to. His family owns farm land and if he becomes a USC than he has absolutely no rights to it at all and is not allowed to purchase agricultural land. So he is going for permanent residency.

Is this because India recognizes the ceremony in the US where you "renounce" your former citizenship? I'm just curious really as I only know about the UK on this. The UK government does not recognize the oath and therefore its possible to keep both.

You know I am not really sure why they won't allow dual citizenship I could never get a true explanation for it. I know once you become a USC you lose all rights other than ease of travel and restrictions on length of stay. So no voting, your not allowed to hold any government post and no agricultural land ownership. I'm pretty sure they just don't want foreign ownership of land to keep their country intact.

Edited July 17, 2009 by dagnytaggart

[msdelila 1]

3600rs, my real home is not Israel, I'm not sure where you got that from.

To those who say I haven't studied in the US....I've paid more than 50K towards my American Education and my BS degree is from the USA, as will be my phD.

Again, for those who don't understand, I'm not against leaving the US for periods of time, no I don't think one should wear a ankle bracelet, but I think that many people get around the rules of a GC. That's not it's true purpose.

Where ever maybe your REAL home, your NOT Native American

Getting all the US Phd's and paying your own tuition does not make you more American, you are from the place you came.

People are FREE to leave for as much time they need even during the green card as long as they are in the limits set by USCIS. True purpose is determined by the CIS, and there are rules in place. And no one gets around the rules. When you become a citizen it means the rules of the GC have been satisfied. period! If you don't have any interest in your home country during the time of your GC that's understandable, but don't attack others who have long term interests or commitments in their home countries. Remember they still are within the rules of the GC.

Thanks mermaid

How do you know I'm NOT Native American? Actually I am.

Edited July 17, 2009 by msdelila

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Becoming a USC doesn't mean you lose citizenship of your home country automatically. You'd have to denounce it yourself.

This is not completely true. Depends on the country.

[wexford65 0]

Which tribe do you belong to? My wife is part cherokee.

Paul

How do you know I'm NOT Native American? Actually I am.

[msdelila 1]

Which tribe do you belong to? My wife is part cherokee.

Paul

How do you know I'm NOT Native American? Actually I am.

Ojibwe

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Erhm, no my M.S is not in English Comprehension, it's in Neurobiology, what about you? And to the other lady, yes actually people do want me to study in Israel, as I contribute to their economy. Thanks.

You've displayed some less than impressive data collection and analysis in this thread, Dr. Scientist.

[SimoFati 0]

Why all the bother over filing to remove conditions? He could have already done that (one can if one is out of the country, you know) , in fact, if you look at his signature, he notes he did on June 29. 2009.

True. If he files by express mail he will be on time.

Actually, he can file today (by express mail) and still be on time.

If he does not file today and he is a few days late, he will likely be forgiven, because he was out of the country (better reason for being late than many).

Also, one can be outside of the US for up to 1 year and not lose the PR status (depending on other circumstances, and once he's in - he's in, he already did not lose his status). He will have to wait another 3 years before he becomes eligible to file for naturalization, but hey, may be he does not even want to naturalize.

Well, don't sing victory. You obviously didn't apply in time for Removing the conditions of your residence; plus have remained outside of the country for more time than allowed in order to maintain your status.

I would not be surprised if you were soon notified of failure to comply and your GC revoked.

very Important fact

[3600rs 24]

Which tribe do you belong to? My wife is part cherokee.

Paul

How do you know I'm NOT Native American? Actually I am.

Ojibwe

That answers it all. Your all around American! Unlike the rest who are first immigrants and then American citizens. That also explains why we spend time back home as and when required. Peace

[jundp 191]

Becoming a USC doesn't mean you lose citizenship of your home country automatically. You'd have to denounce it yourself.

Not necessary. It depends on the country.

As well, many people, as stated previously, would prefer to remain LPRs rather than become a USC.