K1 Filipina abandoned in U.S. Any advice welcomed!

[Chica Yeyé 41]

that's all fine and good --- but does not change the fact that the girl has to leave the country if she does not marry the petitioner. Child support is another story.

[missmissy 38]

In my opinion, the real victims are the parents of the Petitioner and the child, their grandchild. I have children that are most likely the ages of the ones involved here and it's hard to say what I would have done if I had been in the parents situation. No matter what your opinion is of them paying for the ticket ...I am sure that the grandparents motives were out of love for their child and their grandchild. That is the sad part. The rest of it and all the bickering between the various posters here....is unimportant. Len is right - only two solutions, marry or go home.

[MikenKyhen 0]

that's all fine and good --- but does not change the fact that the girl has to leave the country if she does not marry the petitioner. Child support is another story.

Yes, I agree with you. I just hope for the sake of the child that the father has the means to provide that support. If he couldn't afford an airline ticket to get them here and is willing to just take off leaving his job, not to mention his family what are the chances?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

that's all fine and good --- but does not change the fact that the girl has to leave the country if she does not marry the petitioner. Child support is another story.

Yes, I agree with you. I just hope for the sake of the child that the father has the means to provide that support. If he couldn't afford an airline ticket to get them here and is willing to just take off leaving his job, not to mention his family what are the chances?

That is a different ball game. This is an immigration board, not a civil/family law board --- so I would rather not get into that side of things. The child can of course stay as he is a USC. And no, he cannot petition for him mom until he reaches adulthood.

[sjr09 155]

sjr09, What are trying to say here?

I simply pondered the reasons behind the original K-1 petition, whether it was filed out of love & desire or pressure and obligation?

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I hope this women can get home to her country and find support raising her child.

Your Babbling!

How in the world does pondering ad any value or help? Or have anything to do with OP The OP was asking for advice not gibberish talk. None of your posts have anything productive to add to the OP.

Edited July 7, 2009 by sjr09

[Chica Yeyé 41]

sjr09, What are trying to say here?

I simply pondered the reasons behind the original K-1 petition, whether it was filed out of love & desire or pressure and obligation?

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I hope this women can get home to her country and find support raising her child.

Your Babbling!

How in the world does pondering ad any value or help? Or have anything to do with OP The OP was asking for advice not gibberish talk. None of your posts have anything productive to add to the OP.

Ed+Cindy offered good points in his previous post. You are being extremely defensive for something that does not affect you at all --- the advise has been given and it is pretty darn clear: either the girl in question marries the petitioner or she goes back to the PI.

[Ed+Cindy 1]

sjr09, What are trying to say here?

I simply pondered the reasons behind the original K-1 petition, whether it was filed out of love & desire or pressure and obligation?

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I hope this women can get home to her country and find support raising her child.

Your Babbling!

How in the world does pondering ad any value or help? Or have anything to do with OP The OP was asking for advice not gibberish talk. None of your posts have anything productive to add to the OP.

Ed+Cindy offered good points in his previous post. You are being extremely defensive for something that does not affect you at all --- the advise has been given and it is pretty darn clear: either the girl in question marries the petitioner or she goes back to the PI.

Thank you Len.

I'm not sure why others need to be defensive about this. They are not affected by this issue.

[sjr09 155]

sjr09, What are trying to say here?

I simply pondered the reasons behind the original K-1 petition, whether it was filed out of love & desire or pressure and obligation?

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I hope this women can get home to her country and find support raising her child.

Your Babbling!

How in the world does pondering ad any value or help? Or have anything to do with OP The OP was asking for advice not gibberish talk. None of your posts have anything productive to add to the OP.

Ed+Cindy offered good points in his previous post. You are being extremely defensive for something that does not affect you at all --- the advise has been given and it is pretty darn clear: either the girl in question marries the petitioner or she goes back to the PI.

The man did right by not flying her to the US. Its not his fault.

An engagement is not a contract - Marriage is the contract.

And the good point(s) in this post is?

Quote

A) Blame the parents and the girl.

B) I get tired of seeing these types of posts about people not leaving the US.

C) Child support is another issue.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

The man did right by not flying her to the US. Its not his fault.

An engagement is not a contract - Marriage is the contract.

And the good point(s) in this post is?

Quote

A) Blame the parents and the girl.

B) I get tired of seeing these types of posts about people not leaving the US.

C) Child support is another issue.

I still don't see how any of this affects you. And yes, it is pretty damn annoying see people come to the US and remain out of status when they have been told they need to leave. And child support is another issue. You are not bringing one iota of advise, just badgering Ed+Cindy --- reported.

[sjr09 155]

The man did right by not flying her to the US. Its not his fault.

An engagement is not a contract - Marriage is the contract.

And the good point(s) in this post is?

Quote

A) Blame the parents and the girl.

B) I get tired of seeing these types of posts about people not leaving the US.

C) Child support is another issue.

I still don't see how any of this affects you. And yes, it is pretty damn annoying see people come to the US and remain out of status when they have been told they need to leave. And child support is another issue. You are not bringing one iota of advise, just badgering Ed+Cindy --- reported.

She's not out of status

[Chica Yeyé 41]

The man did right by not flying her to the US. Its not his fault.

An engagement is not a contract - Marriage is the contract.

And the good point(s) in this post is?

Quote

A) Blame the parents and the girl.

B) I get tired of seeing these types of posts about people not leaving the US.

C) Child support is another issue.

I still don't see how any of this affects you. And yes, it is pretty damn annoying see people come to the US and remain out of status when they have been told they need to leave. And child support is another issue. You are not bringing one iota of advise, just badgering Ed+Cindy --- reported.

She's not out of status

Huh? If she does not marry withing 90 days, she is out of status. --what's it to you anyway?

[Ed+Cindy 1]

sjr09, What are trying to say here?

I simply pondered the reasons behind the original K-1 petition, whether it was filed out of love & desire or pressure and obligation?

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I hope this women can get home to her country and find support raising her child.

Your Babbling!

How in the world does pondering ad any value or help? Or have anything to do with OP The OP was asking for advice not gibberish talk. None of your posts have anything productive to add to the OP.

How much value and help have you added here?

My comments in my posts were replies to other posts in the thread.

BTW, I have noticed some Filipinos on VJ tend to be very defensive about any post towards another Filipinos. I suspect sjr09 is one of those types. Please keep in mind this thread is directed at the OP, who is at risk of doing something illegal in the United States. should she not leave the country soon. Any replies by myself and others are not an attack on a particular country. Please don't defend people who 'may' be trying to skirt around the law.

[sjr09 155]

sjr09, What are trying to say here?

I simply pondered the reasons behind the original K-1 petition, whether it was filed out of love & desire or pressure and obligation?

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I hope this women can get home to her country and find support raising her child.

Your Babbling!

How in the world does pondering ad any value or help? Or have anything to do with OP The OP was asking for advice not gibberish talk. None of your posts have anything productive to add to the OP.

How much value and help have you added here?

My comments in my posts were replies to other posts in the thread.

BTW, I have noticed some Filipinos on VJ tend to be very defensive about any post towards another Filipinos. I suspect sjr09 is one of those types. Please keep in mind this thread is directed at the OP, who is at risk of doing something illegal in the United States. should she not leave the country soon. Any replies by myself and others are not an attack on a particular country. Please don't defend people who 'may' be trying to skirt around the law.

Lets clear this up, Tell me at what point in the OP do you see anything about trying to skirt around the law? Or risk of doing something illegal? Or out of status? I really don'y care what country she from your statements have not been fair.

My wife's cousin from the Philippines finally made it to the U.S. 4 weeks ago on her K1 visa with her son (biological son of the petitioner) and is in quite a dilemma. Long story short, the U.S. petitioner has run away. He left his cell phone and belongings and drove off in the night, no one knows where he is or how to contact him. He has been gone over 3 weeks now. The Filipina and child are living with his parents but what will happen next is anyone's guess. We have a strong feeling that he will not return before the 90 days is up and have been wondering what's the best advice we can give to her if that occurs. The in laws have said that they don't have the money to send her back home if he doesn't marry her. I assume at some point the government will come looking for her if she were to try and stay past the deadline.

My advice to her already has been to not go TNT and try to dodge the government, but instead contact the embassy here and let them know the situation (once it's close to the 90 day mark) so that she won't have any bad marks against her should she ever find another U.S. petitioner in the future.

I would like to hear some comments on:

1. What will happen if the petitioner doesn't come back and she tries to stay here. Also what consequences could the in-laws face by allowing her to live there.

2. What are her options for returning home. Will the US government pay her way back (and who would pay for the child who holds a US passport)? Can she get some kind of aid from the PI consulate here?

Thanks in advance for any advice. She faces a very sad situation and we are trying to support her emotionally as best we can.

A little more info.... the parents paid for the tickets because that's what the USC told them he wanted. He just lost a job and couldn't pay for it, and her visa was about to expire. I won't post all the little details because it's not my place to do so without their knowledge or approval. That's why I've only given the basic overall facts of the situation. We just wanted to have some good advice to give her about her options should he not come back. We went through the K1 process and made sure to follow every letter of the law and we don't want to see her do anything illegal which would prevent her any future visas.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

FFS

[Ed+Cindy 1]

sjr09, why are you so defensive?

(this is just getting funny)

Edited July 7, 2009 by Ed+Cindy