B-2 Tourist Visa denials... it's complicated !!

[dereka e dulcim 0]

I am new to this forum, what a great site! After reading through the forum I have answered many questions I had and come up with lots of others! But I digress...

My fiancee is from Brazil. I am a US citizen. We met in July 07 and fell madly in love. We lived together for seven months in Brazil. After that I had to return to the states and the plan was for my girl to visit me. She tried twice for the B-2 Tourist Visa and was denied twice.

I have read other posts on this topic and was pleased to hear that the B-2 denials should not affect the K1 visa. However, during the interviews, my fiancee did not mention that she had a boyfriend in the states. After reading that having a boyfriend/girlfriend in the states means an automatic denial, we decided it would be best for her not to mention this.

My concern is that they will have notes on her previous interview (I know they do keep notes on Visa applicants) and they will see that she did not mention a boyfriend in her interviews. So, she will either have to say that she ommitted this fact (lied! ) in her B-2 interviews, or that we did not actuall know eachother back then.

My sense is that it would be best to be honest if the subject comes up in the interview.... but of course to not mention it if they don't ask! Does anyone have thoughts on the best way for us to approach this? Should she say that she did not mention me because she knew it would mean automatic denial? We were not planning on getting married, just having her visit my folks and hometown... which we will have to do now with a fiancee visa.

Thanks for your help everyone!!

[scandal 951]

I am new to this forum, what a great site! After reading through the forum I have answered many questions I had and come up with lots of others! But I digress...

My fiancee is from Brazil. I am a US citizen. We met in July 07 and fell madly in love. We lived together for seven months in Brazil. After that I had to return to the states and the plan was for my girl to visit me. She tried twice for the B-2 Tourist Visa and was denied twice.

I have read other posts on this topic and was pleased to hear that the B-2 denials should not affect the K1 visa. However, during the interviews, my fiancee did not mention that she had a boyfriend in the states. After reading that having a boyfriend/girlfriend in the states means an automatic denial, we decided it would be best for her not to mention this.

My concern is that they will have notes on her previous interview (I know they do keep notes on Visa applicants) and they will see that she did not mention a boyfriend in her interviews. So, she will either have to say that she ommitted this fact (lied! ) in her B-2 interviews, or that we did not actuall know eachother back then.

My sense is that it would be best to be honest if the subject comes up in the interview.... but of course to not mention it if they don't ask! Does anyone have thoughts on the best way for us to approach this? Should she say that she did not mention me because she knew it would mean automatic denial? We were not planning on getting married, just having her visit my folks and hometown... which we will have to do now with a fiancee visa.

Thanks for your help everyone!!

Welcome to VJ, glad you are finding it useful.

If I understand your concern, it is that on that two B2 attempts for which she was denied, she never voluntarily disclosed that she had a BF in the US (you). Now she will file for a K1 and declare that you have had a relationship dating back through that period of time, and you'll provide evidence to that effect.

You are absolutely correct that you should be entirely honest and truthful about the exact time and nature of your relationship. You should indicate when you first met and the time that you spent together. This should be done when you first file your I-129F, and also later when she applies for the visa and has her interview. Your instinct to be truthful throughout this process is the correct one.. follow that instinct!

As far as I know, she was not required to indicate that she had a relationship with you when she applied for the B-2. A B-2 is not an immigrant intent visa, and does require her to identify those she knows in the US. Hence I doubt they would ask her anything about it at interview for the K1. If she is asked, I think the appropriate reply is that she believed it simply not relevant. She was requesting a B2 to visit the US - nothing wrong with that. The only possible concern would be if she were directly asked a question at the B2 interview for which she lied outright. If she did not lie overtly, but simply never made mention of her relationship to you, then there was no material deception.

Good luck!

[Badgerella 5]

I have a K1 visa in my passport (you can find my embassy/interview review in my timeline) and, prior to that, I had FOUR B2 visa denials. Three out of four times, they didn't know I had a boyfriend/fiance in the US. He was the person (or once his mother) I intended to visit, though), who I had listed on my DS-156. They asked no specific questions and I therefore provided no specific answers. The last time, we had our K1 pending, so we were honest about the purpose of my trip (both of us attended the last B2 interview) - we said I wanted to go to the US during my days off, to simply spend some time with my fiance. This particular denial was outright related to the K1. Others were a lot more random, mostly related to bad luck.

During our K1 interview, the previous B2 denials were mentioned, but they actually served as proof of our relationship.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am new to this forum, what a great site! After reading through the forum I have answered many questions I had and come up with lots of others! But I digress...

My fiancee is from Brazil. I am a US citizen. We met in July 07 and fell madly in love. We lived together for seven months in Brazil. After that I had to return to the states and the plan was for my girl to visit me. She tried twice for the B-2 Tourist Visa and was denied twice.

I have read other posts on this topic and was pleased to hear that the B-2 denials should not affect the K1 visa. However, during the interviews, my fiancee did not mention that she had a boyfriend in the states. After reading that having a boyfriend/girlfriend in the states means an automatic denial, we decided it would be best for her not to mention this.

My concern is that they will have notes on her previous interview (I know they do keep notes on Visa applicants) and they will see that she did not mention a boyfriend in her interviews. So, she will either have to say that she ommitted this fact (lied! ) in her B-2 interviews, or that we did not actuall know eachother back then.

My sense is that it would be best to be honest if the subject comes up in the interview.... but of course to not mention it if they don't ask! Does anyone have thoughts on the best way for us to approach this? Should she say that she did not mention me because she knew it would mean automatic denial? We were not planning on getting married, just having her visit my folks and hometown... which we will have to do now with a fiancee visa.

Thanks for your help everyone!!

I do not see this coming up in interviews. B2 denials really have nothing to do with the process. She is not required to "mention" waht they do not ask about. I would not worry about this.

[dereka e dulcim 0]

I have a K1 visa in my passport (you can find my embassy/interview review in my timeline) and, prior to that, I had FOUR B2 visa denials. Three out of four times, they didn't know I had a boyfriend/fiance in the US. He was the person (or once his mother) I intended to visit, though), who I had listed on my DS-156. They asked no specific questions and I therefore provided no specific answers. The last time, we had our K1 pending, so we were honest about the purpose of my trip (both of us attended the last B2 interview) - we said I wanted to go to the US during my days off, to simply spend some time with my fiance. This particular denial was outright related to the K1. Others were a lot more random, mostly related to bad luck.

During our K1 interview, the previous B2 denials were mentioned, but they actually served as proof of our relationship.

Thank you everyone for your responses! I feel much less anxious now. I agree, that the B2 denials will serve as proof of the relationship. Once she said she was visiting my sister and the other time my mother I believe.

So our approach will be to say that they did not ask her specifically if she had a boyfriend in the US, so she just told them who she wanted to visit (my sister and mom) so that she could get to know them. She will also say that she wanted to visit me, even though I was not mentioned in the D-156 or interview.

[Kathlyn and Tim 0]

I am new to this forum, what a great site! After reading through the forum I have answered many questions I had and come up with lots of others! But I digress...

My fiancee is from Brazil. I am a US citizen. We met in July 07 and fell madly in love. We lived together for seven months in Brazil. After that I had to return to the states and the plan was for my girl to visit me. She tried twice for the B-2 Tourist Visa and was denied twice.

I have read other posts on this topic and was pleased to hear that the B-2 denials should not affect the K1 visa. However, during the interviews, my fiancee did not mention that she had a boyfriend in the states. After reading that having a boyfriend/girlfriend in the states means an automatic denial, we decided it would be best for her not to mention this.

My concern is that they will have notes on her previous interview (I know they do keep notes on Visa applicants) and they will see that she did not mention a boyfriend in her interviews. So, she will either have to say that she ommitted this fact (lied! ) in her B-2 interviews, or that we did not actuall know eachother back then.

My sense is that it would be best to be honest if the subject comes up in the interview.... but of course to not mention it if they don't ask! Does anyone have thoughts on the best way for us to approach this? Should she say that she did not mention me because she knew it would mean automatic denial? We were not planning on getting married, just having her visit my folks and hometown... which we will have to do now with a fiancee visa

Thanks for your help everyone!!

Lets just hope that the USCIS doesn't monitor this site (Forum). lol

[Deborah M 0]

I am new to this forum, what a great site! After reading through the forum I have answered many questions I had and come up with lots of others! But I digress...

My fiancee is from Brazil. I am a US citizen. We met in July 07 and fell madly in love. We lived together for seven months in Brazil. After that I had to return to the states and the plan was for my girl to visit me. She tried twice for the B-2 Tourist Visa and was denied twice.

I have read other posts on this topic and was pleased to hear that the B-2 denials should not affect the K1 visa. However, during the interviews, my fiancee did not mention that she had a boyfriend in the states. After reading that having a boyfriend/girlfriend in the states means an automatic denial, we decided it would be best for her not to mention this.

My concern is that they will have notes on her previous interview (I know they do keep notes on Visa applicants) and they will see that she did not mention a boyfriend in her interviews. So, she will either have to say that she ommitted this fact (lied! ) in her B-2 interviews, or that we did not actuall know eachother back then.

My sense is that it would be best to be honest if the subject comes up in the interview.... but of course to not mention it if they don't ask! Does anyone have thoughts on the best way for us to approach this? Should she say that she did not mention me because she knew it would mean automatic denial? We were not planning on getting married, just having her visit my folks and hometown... which we will have to do now with a fiancee visa.

Thanks for your help everyone!!

Welcome to VJ, glad you are finding it useful.

If I understand your concern, it is that on that two B2 attempts for which she was denied, she never voluntarily disclosed that she had a BF in the US (you). Now she will file for a K1 and declare that you have had a relationship dating back through that period of time, and you'll provide evidence to that effect.

You are absolutely correct that you should be entirely honest and truthful about the exact time and nature of your relationship. You should indicate when you first met and the time that you spent together. This should be done when you first file your I-129F, and also later when she applies for the visa and has her interview. Your instinct to be truthful throughout this process is the correct one.. follow that instinct!

As far as I know, she was not required to indicate that she had a relationship with you when she applied for the B-2. A B-2 is not an immigrant intent visa, and does require her to identify those she knows in the US. Hence I doubt they would ask her anything about it at interview for the K1. If she is asked, I think the appropriate reply is that she believed it simply not relevant. She was requesting a B2 to visit the US - nothing wrong with that. The only possible concern would be if she were directly asked a question at the B2 interview for which she lied outright. If she did not lie overtly, but simply never made mention of her relationship to you, then there was no material deception.

Good luck!

Here is a question. As an US citizen, I can travel to Morocco to visit my fiancee with my current passport. Would if I stay there long enough to marry him? I know that we will have to withdrwal the K-1 visa and aply for a k-3 visa. I wonder if we can marry if we are in the k-1 visa status there in Morocco?