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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Turkey
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My fiance and I are planning on doing a courthouse wedding in the next couple of weeks and having our traditional wedding ceremony/reception several months later. I have a few questions:

- Will we be able to have a second civil ceremony when we have our traditional wedding, even if we get legally married at the courthouse first?

- For those who have done this, did you do anything to celebrate your "legal" wedding? Did your wedding day still feel just as special even though you were already married by law?

- What is the civil ceremony at the courthouse like? What are the procedures?

Thanks for your input! :)

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AOS Timeline:

- 06/30/2009: Filed for AOS/EAD/AP

- 07/02/2009: AOS packet received

- 07/08/2009: Check cashed

- 07/10/2009: Received all 3 NOA1s

- 07/14/2009: Received biometrics appt.

- 07/29/2009: Case transferred to CSC

- 08/01/2009: Advanced Parole Documents Issued

- 08/06/2009: Biometrics appointment completed

- 08/11/2009: EAD issued (received 8/14)

- 11/12/2009: AOS approved

- 11/20/2009: Green Card in hand!

* Complete timeline in profile under "Signature and Story"

Posted

Umit and I are doing something similar to this.

Get the "legal" marriage out of the way to satisfy the K-1 requirements, then plan wedding parties in Turkey and the USA.

Everytime we are together - it's like the "first" time - so :)

We will show up to the courthouse, with 2 friends, talk to the clerk, get sworn in, get license - then go find a person that will give us the marriage certificate.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ethiopia
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My fiance and I are planning on doing a courthouse wedding in the next couple of weeks and having our traditional wedding ceremony/reception several months later. I have a few questions:

- Will we be able to have a second civil ceremony when we have our traditional wedding, even if we get legally married at the courthouse first?

Yes, but why? Once you are married at the courthouse (this is the same as saying civil ceremony) you are married. I understand wanting a ceremony that is done by a religious figure or something larger where more family can attend, but why repeat the civil marriage?

- For those who have done this, did you do anything to celebrate your "legal" wedding? Did your wedding day still feel just as special even though you were already married by law?

We only had the civil service. I would imagine your 2nd wedding would still be special in a different way, having friends and family celebrate with you too. You can celebrate them both, or not, its really up to you and your hubby to be.

- What is the civil ceremony at the courthouse like? What are the procedures?

Call the office that issues marriage licenses and ask what their procedures are. Don't go on the internet but actually call....the web will list requirements, but many requirements (SSN, wait period) can be waived at the courthouse if you ask. We actually got married at a justice of the peace, near the courthouse. We got to the courthouse around 11 or so, filled the paperwork, got a waiver for SSN and 72-hour wait period (it took an extra 10 minutes, most of which were spend looking for the correct room at the courthouse), we got the license, drove the JP, got married. We hand delivered signed marriage certificate so that we could get the certified copies in our hand that day.

Thanks for your input! :)

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: England
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My fiance came over in December and we married at the end of the month at the courthouse. We did this since they give you 90 days, there is no way I could plan the wedding I wanted in 90 days! Once we got engaged, I booked a swanky hotel for our "real" wedding at the end of this year.

When we have the second wedding we will tell whomever we choose to be the officiant, that we are already wed so no need for the paper work, but we still want the ceremony since everyone didn't see it the first time around.

We haven't had our first anniversary yet, but I plan to do something for both wedding dates. Maybe dinner on our real date, then gifts for our second date?

I made an appointment to get the marriage license a couple days in advance, showed id and passports, we filled out some paper work, they put it in the computer, had our witness sign a waiver, waited a few minutes, then got married outside in the garden. It was nice and quick, and had a little party back at home.

My fiance and I are planning on doing a courthouse wedding in the next couple of weeks and having our traditional wedding ceremony/reception several months later. I have a few questions:

- Will we be able to have a second civil ceremony when we have our traditional wedding, even if we get legally married at the courthouse first?

- For those who have done this, did you do anything to celebrate your "legal" wedding? Did your wedding day still feel just as special even though you were already married by law?

- What is the civil ceremony at the courthouse like? What are the procedures?

Thanks for your input! :)

Our timeline-

February 6 2008- Mailed 129f

February 8 2008- 129f was received

February 12 2008- Check was cashed

February 13 2008- Received NOA1 hardcopy

June 20 2008- First touch

June 21 2008- Touch

June 21 2008- Received NOA2 hardcopy

September 17 2008- Touch

September 25 2008- Touch

September 26 2008- Touch

September 27 2008- Received second NOA2 hardcopy (hopefully this time it will actually get sent to NVC)

October 13 2008- Received packet 3

October 15 2008- Sent packet 3

October 29 2008- Packet 4 received

November 28 2008- Interview date

December 4 2008- Visa Received

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jamaica
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Posted (edited)
Umit and I are doing something similar to this.

Get the "legal" marriage out of the way to satisfy the K-1 requirements, then plan wedding parties in Turkey and the USA.

Everytime we are together - it's like the "first" time - so :)

We will show up to the courthouse, with 2 friends, talk to the clerk, get sworn in, get license - then go find a person that will give us the marriage certificate.

The courthouse wedding is not really a "talk" to the clerk. You say the same things that is said at a church wedding except they cut to the chase and get straight to the point. You hold hands, look into each others eyes and make your vow to each other. The officiating person says the same things that are said at a church wedding about loving each other etc and tells you to look into the eyes of the person you are planning to spend your whole life with and just let all the love inside envelop you. Well at least mine did. You are also presented with the marriage certificate after you have signed it, pronounced husband and wife and you have "kissed your bride" so you don't need to go and find the person who will give it to you.

I don't know but mine was 10 minutes and spicy. I guess it was because I was very concerned when I saw the other couples popping in and out and were married. I prayed that mine would have substance and it surely did. We plan to have a church wedding but sickness has delayed it. Now we are planning other things like buying a home. We will renew our vows in a couple of years and then we can have the excitement that we planned.

Edited by kcoyclay1

STANLEY & KAREN
01/15/2009 - Fedex I-130, I-485, I-693, I-864, I-765, G-325A
01/20/2009 - Received in mail-room and signed for by J CHYBA
01/28/2009 - Checks cashed by Homeland Security
02/02/2009 - Received in mail 3 pcs of NOA1 one each for I-485, I-130, I-765 dated 01/28/2009
02/03/2009 - Received email RFE. What did I not send now, whew!
02/09/2009 - Received mails for initial evidence and Biometric appointment (02/19/2009); mailed evidence
02/19/2009 - biometrics done - in a out in 45 minutes
03/14/2009 - Receive NOA2 dated 03/10/2009. AOS interview April 29, 2009
03/18/2009 - Touched. EAD Card production ordered
03/25/2009 - Touched. EAD approval sent
03/27/2009 - EAD card received in the mail; applied for SS# immediately (office is across the street from my home)
04/02/2009 - Received SS# in the mail
04/29/2009 - Interviewed. I- 130 approved, I-485 pending IO's review
05/05/2009 - Received NOA2. Welcome letter for Permanent Residency. I-130 and I-485 approved 04/30/2009
05/08/2009 - Touched. I-485 approval letter sent
05/11/2009 - GC received in the mail. Expires 2019
05/11/2009 - Applied to remove restrictions on my SS Card
05/18/2009 - Received unrestricted SS card

10/13/2009 - My darling husband of 2 yrs 5 months 3 weeks 3 days passed away :(

Naturalization Process (5 Yrs Later) :goofy:

Mar 28, 2014 - Mailed N-400
Apr 08, 2014 - Check cashed
Apr 09, 2014 - Receive Notice letter Priority date April 3, 2014
Apr 11, 2014 - Touched - Email - Biometrics letter mailed
May 08, 2014 - Biometrics done
May 12, 2014 - Touched - Email - In line for interview scheduling
July 12, 2014 - Pre-interview letter (Yellow letter) received in mail
Aug 20, 2014 - Touched - Email - Interview scheduled
Aug 25, 2014 - Interview scheduled for Sept. 24, 2014
Sept 24, 2014 - Passed interview
Oct 06, 2014 - Touched - Email - In oath scheduling que
Oct 08, 2014 - Touched - Text - Oath ceremony scheduled
Oct 14, 2014 - Received letter - Oath ceremony Oct 28, 2014
Oct 28, 2014 - I AM A US CITIZEN! :joy: :joy: :joy:
Nov 12, 2014 - Updated my status from permanent resident to citizen at Social Security
Nov 14, 2014 - Applied for US passport
Nov 29, 2014 - Received US passport book
Dec 01, 2014 - Received Passport card
Dec 04, 2014 - Received Naturalization Certificate

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KayCee

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Posted
Umit and I are doing something similar to this.

Get the "legal" marriage out of the way to satisfy the K-1 requirements, then plan wedding parties in Turkey and the USA.

Everytime we are together - it's like the "first" time - so :)

We will show up to the courthouse, with 2 friends, talk to the clerk, get sworn in, get license - then go find a person that will give us the marriage certificate.

The courthouse wedding is not really a "talk" to the clerk. You say the same things that is said at a church wedding except they cut to the chase and get straight to the point. You hold hands, look into each others eyes and make your vow to each other. The officiating person says the same things that are said at a church wedding about loving each other etc and tells you to look into the eyes of the person you are planning to spend your whole life with and just let all the love inside envelop you. Well at least mine did. You are also presented with the marriage certificate after you have signed it, pronounced husband and wife and you have "kissed your bride" so you don't need to go and find the person who will give it to you.

I don't know but mine was 10 minutes and spicy. I guess it was because I was very concerned when I saw the other couples popping in and out and were married. I prayed that mine would have substance and it surely did. We plan to have a church wedding but sickness has delayed it. Now we are planning other things like buying a home. We will renew our vows in a couple of years and then we can have the excitement that we planned.

No - talking to clerk only gets you the license in Ohio - you have to do the mumble jumble with the person that signs your marriage certificate to make it all "official" - (ordained or licensed minister of any religious society or congregation within this state may perform marriages - that is when you do the mumble jumble.)

You have 60 days after that license to get married.

Your state law may vary...

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Jamaica
Timeline
Posted (edited)
Umit and I are doing something similar to this.

Get the "legal" marriage out of the way to satisfy the K-1 requirements, then plan wedding parties in Turkey and the USA.

Everytime we are together - it's like the "first" time - so :)

We will show up to the courthouse, with 2 friends, talk to the clerk, get sworn in, get license - then go find a person that will give us the marriage certificate.

The courthouse wedding is not really a "talk" to the clerk. You say the same things that is said at a church wedding except they cut to the chase and get straight to the point. You hold hands, look into each others eyes and make your vow to each other. The officiating person says the same things that are said at a church wedding about loving each other etc and tells you to look into the eyes of the person you are planning to spend your whole life with and just let all the love inside envelop you. Well at least mine did. You are also presented with the marriage certificate after you have signed it, pronounced husband and wife and you have "kissed your bride" so you don't need to go and find the person who will give it to you.

I don't know but mine was 10 minutes and spicy. I guess it was because I was very concerned when I saw the other couples popping in and out and were married. I prayed that mine would have substance and it surely did. We plan to have a church wedding but sickness has delayed it. Now we are planning other things like buying a home. We will renew our vows in a couple of years and then we can have the excitement that we planned.

No - talking to clerk only gets you the license in Ohio - you have to do the mumble jumble with the person that signs your marriage certificate to make it all "official" - (ordained or licensed minister of any religious society or congregation within this state may perform marriages - that is when you do the mumble jumble.)

You have 60 days after that license to get married.

Your state law may vary...

Okay, I got the impression from what you wrote when you stated after you get the license -THEN you go find the person that will give us the marriage certificate as quoted.

In NY we fill out the application, talk to the clerk, get the license and then we have I think a month or three months to get married ( I can't remember). I was just thrown off by the statement when you said ... get the license THEN go find the person that will give us the marriage certificate. I guess I get what you are saying.

Edited by kcoyclay1

STANLEY & KAREN
01/15/2009 - Fedex I-130, I-485, I-693, I-864, I-765, G-325A
01/20/2009 - Received in mail-room and signed for by J CHYBA
01/28/2009 - Checks cashed by Homeland Security
02/02/2009 - Received in mail 3 pcs of NOA1 one each for I-485, I-130, I-765 dated 01/28/2009
02/03/2009 - Received email RFE. What did I not send now, whew!
02/09/2009 - Received mails for initial evidence and Biometric appointment (02/19/2009); mailed evidence
02/19/2009 - biometrics done - in a out in 45 minutes
03/14/2009 - Receive NOA2 dated 03/10/2009. AOS interview April 29, 2009
03/18/2009 - Touched. EAD Card production ordered
03/25/2009 - Touched. EAD approval sent
03/27/2009 - EAD card received in the mail; applied for SS# immediately (office is across the street from my home)
04/02/2009 - Received SS# in the mail
04/29/2009 - Interviewed. I- 130 approved, I-485 pending IO's review
05/05/2009 - Received NOA2. Welcome letter for Permanent Residency. I-130 and I-485 approved 04/30/2009
05/08/2009 - Touched. I-485 approval letter sent
05/11/2009 - GC received in the mail. Expires 2019
05/11/2009 - Applied to remove restrictions on my SS Card
05/18/2009 - Received unrestricted SS card

10/13/2009 - My darling husband of 2 yrs 5 months 3 weeks 3 days passed away :(

Naturalization Process (5 Yrs Later) :goofy:

Mar 28, 2014 - Mailed N-400
Apr 08, 2014 - Check cashed
Apr 09, 2014 - Receive Notice letter Priority date April 3, 2014
Apr 11, 2014 - Touched - Email - Biometrics letter mailed
May 08, 2014 - Biometrics done
May 12, 2014 - Touched - Email - In line for interview scheduling
July 12, 2014 - Pre-interview letter (Yellow letter) received in mail
Aug 20, 2014 - Touched - Email - Interview scheduled
Aug 25, 2014 - Interview scheduled for Sept. 24, 2014
Sept 24, 2014 - Passed interview
Oct 06, 2014 - Touched - Email - In oath scheduling que
Oct 08, 2014 - Touched - Text - Oath ceremony scheduled
Oct 14, 2014 - Received letter - Oath ceremony Oct 28, 2014
Oct 28, 2014 - I AM A US CITIZEN! :joy: :joy: :joy:
Nov 12, 2014 - Updated my status from permanent resident to citizen at Social Security
Nov 14, 2014 - Applied for US passport
Nov 29, 2014 - Received US passport book
Dec 01, 2014 - Received Passport card
Dec 04, 2014 - Received Naturalization Certificate

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KayCee

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Something to think about AFTER the ceremony: If you're being married (say, by a Justice of the Peace) away from the chief courthouse, ask if you can personally take the just-signed marriage license to the courthouse yourself so that you can receive your marriage certificate while there. You'll almost never run into an objection.

Then, once at the courthouse, order MULTIPLE copies of your marriage certificates. We ordered seven (at $7 each). The clerk had never had a single order for so many, but she prepared them without complaint. After expending them on AOS, for the bank account, as a keepsake for Mom, etc., we have ONE remaining, si man!

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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Posted
My fiance and I are planning on doing a courthouse wedding in the next couple of weeks and having our traditional wedding ceremony/reception several months later. I have a few questions:

- Will we be able to have a second civil ceremony when we have our traditional wedding, even if we get legally married at the courthouse first?

- For those who have done this, did you do anything to celebrate your "legal" wedding? Did your wedding day still feel just as special even though you were already married by law?

- What is the civil ceremony at the courthouse like? What are the procedures?

Thanks for your input! :)

We had a "lakefront" at-our-house wedding (same as a courthouse wedding by a JP but in the front yard as the JP is our neighbor) It can be as fancy or not fancy as you want. We did not have a fancy wedding but Alla did have a white wedding dress made. It is more a "procedure" than a "wedding" but it IS legal and meets the requirements of the immigration law.

The follow on "ceremony" can also be as elaborate as you want and you are free to consider it your "true wedding" if you want. You can celebrate whichever as your "anniversary", most women choosing to celebrate BOTH especially if it involves more gifts. You will not be able to get a license (and won't need one) The cool thing is, you also don't need an "official" person to perform the ceremony (though you may want one) you could have the ceremony performed by parents, siblings or a friend. Use your imagination, make it your day without anyone having to be "official"

VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

Gary And Alla

 
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