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Alternative (**) marriage opens the door to many changes in our society which impact basic freedoms we have grown accustomed too.

One of the most intimate is the right to a public education.

Schools will be taxed with the job of training youngsters (I like that word) .... to embrace life styles which are contrary to many people of faith.

The only option will be private or home school.

Businesses which are run by people with traditional values will be forced by legal action to accept people whose very behavior or lifestyle they object too.

Such as if someone owns a bed-and-breakfast business or offers marriage services such as photography or limo.

If the homos legally hounded the BoyScouts, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, I doubt they will show mercy to anyone else who has a similar opinion on their lifestyle.

The cost of Gay-marriage both direct and indirect could be sizable.

I'm sorry but this is the most asinine thing I've ever read. "Training youngsters to embrace life styles which are contrary to many people of faith?" Oh, you mean a embracing tolerance? Yeah, I agree with you on that one. Lord knows you can't embrace tolerance. Let's leave that whole tolerance thing to Jesus.

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But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

There are a lot of "long standing...social, religious and traditional values" that should be rejected and eradicated from the face of the Earth. And sometimes we need the government to do that. Slavery, for example, was long standing, socially acceptable if not promoted, justified and or promoted by religious leaders. Should there still be slavery?

Sorry for the extra post. Ran out of time.

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Alternative (**) marriage opens the door to many changes in our society which impact basic freedoms we have grown accustomed too.

One of the most intimate is the right to a public education.

Schools will be taxed with the job of training youngsters (I like that word) .... to embrace life styles which are contrary to many people of faith.

The only option will be private or home school.

Businesses which are run by people with traditional values will be forced by legal action to accept people whose very behavior or lifestyle they object too.

Such as if someone owns a bed-and-breakfast business or offers marriage services such as photography or limo.

If the homos legally hounded the BoyScouts, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, I doubt they will show mercy to anyone else who has a similar opinion on their lifestyle.

The cost of Gay-marriage both direct and indirect could be sizable.

I'm sorry but this is the most asinine thing I've ever read. "Training youngsters to embrace life styles which are contrary to many people of faith?" Oh, you mean a embracing tolerance? Yeah, I agree with you on that one. Lord knows you can't embrace tolerance. Let's leave that whole tolerance thing to Jesus.

Well said, EZ!!! :thumbs:

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But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

There are a lot of "long standing...social, religious and traditional values" that should be rejected and eradicated from the face of the Earth. And sometimes we need the government to do that. Slavery, for example, was long standing, socially acceptable if not promoted, justified and or promoted by religious leaders. Should there still be slavery?

Sorry for the extra post. Ran out of time.

I noticed that Danno hasn't answered your question...hmmmm.

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I saw this vid yesterday. When I have children, I'll tell them the same thing my mother told me about the 2 women who ran the local video store...

"They're lesbians. Now go pick out which video you want."

:whistle: Seriously, the point is... people are different, so......?

Same sex marriage is not taking away my freedom. :dance:

Thanks for helping my with my point.

- "Parents" should teach the child on these issues, not the State.

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But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

There are a lot of "long standing...social, religious and traditional values" that should be rejected and eradicated from the face of the Earth. And sometimes we need the government to do that. Slavery, for example, was long standing, socially acceptable if not promoted, justified and or promoted by religious leaders. Should there still be slavery?

Sorry for the extra post. Ran out of time.

Slavery? not only are your comments way far removed from anything relevant, but (as usual) Historically inaccurate.

It was the religious leaders, whose voices condemning Slavery had the greatest impact.

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Teach it? Making people aware that being gay is ok, is quite different to teaching one how to be one Danno. I am sure a gay person could try forever to 'teach you' to be gay, but you would always fail :)

Unfortunately it wouldn't be the first class I failed :)

But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

You equate teaching a child to be nonjudgmental towards gays as indoctrinating them? What is the proper way to teach your children about gay people?

The proper way to teach children about these issues would vary from family to family.

You might teach your children different values than your neighbor. We all have diverse views and values and the State should respect that.

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Teach it? Making people aware that being gay is ok, is quite different to teaching one how to be one Danno. I am sure a gay person could try forever to 'teach you' to be gay, but you would always fail :)

Unfortunately it wouldn't be the first class I failed :)

But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

You equate teaching a child to be nonjudgmental towards gays as indoctrinating them? What is the proper way to teach your children about gay people?

The proper way to teach children about these issues would vary from family to family.

You might teach your children different values than your neighbor. We all have diverse views and values and the State should respect that.

Would the State be able to define a set of core values that all members should adher to, say, that rape should not be permitted in a peaceful society?

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I saw this vid yesterday. When I have children, I'll tell them the same thing my mother told me about the 2 women who ran the local video store...

"They're lesbians. Now go pick out which video you want."

:whistle: Seriously, the point is... people are different, so......?

Same sex marriage is not taking away my freedom. :dance:

Thanks for helping my with my point.

- "Parents" should teach the child on these issues, not the State.

Same sex marriage isn't "teaching" kids. The Constitution isn't "teaching" me anything. It's about rights.

The above is not legal advice.

It is either from research or merely my opinion.

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Teach it? Making people aware that being gay is ok, is quite different to teaching one how to be one Danno. I am sure a gay person could try forever to 'teach you' to be gay, but you would always fail :)

Unfortunately it wouldn't be the first class I failed :)

But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

You equate teaching a child to be nonjudgmental towards gays as indoctrinating them? What is the proper way to teach your children about gay people?

The proper way to teach children about these issues would vary from family to family.

You might teach your children different values than your neighbor. We all have diverse views and values and the State should respect that.

Danno - if you had a grade school child and his friend's parents were a gay couple, would you forbid your child to play with his friend? What about your child's friends whose parents are divorced? Living with someone (straight)?

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Teach it? Making people aware that being gay is ok, is quite different to teaching one how to be one Danno. I am sure a gay person could try forever to 'teach you' to be gay, but you would always fail :)

Unfortunately it wouldn't be the first class I failed :)

But the "teaching" in not so much about 'how to be gay' but rather "indoctrinating" (and I don't think that word is inaccurate) children to reject long standing.... social, religious and traditional values that should be protected even if they were not in the mainstream.

Clearly this is not the role of Government.

You equate teaching a child to be nonjudgmental towards gays as indoctrinating them? What is the proper way to teach your children about gay people?

The proper way to teach children about these issues would vary from family to family.

You might teach your children different values than your neighbor. We all have diverse views and values and the State should respect that.

Would the State be able to define a set of core values that all members should adher to, say, that rape should not be permitted in a peaceful society?

Core values are not necessarily laws.

Lets not stray here, I posted about Public schools not criminal law.

I don't recall ever learning about "rape" in school.

I don't ever recall time being given to teaching me about the virtue of respecting anyones sexual practices.

Don't schools have enough work to do without extending into this type of stuff?

It's a little startling that some of you are so willing to give this power of "Social pioneering" to the School system.

All I can say is.... DON"T THINK YOU CAN CONTROL IT.

At different times and different places, a wide variance of views are found in school-boards.

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