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[SteveColo 0]

In Ukraine, in order for a child of a divorced couple to leave the country, the non-custodial parent must sign a release, allowing child to leave the country. At one time I guess this form was good for 90 days. Recently that’s changed and now the document is only good for 30 days.

The x-husband of my wife had agreed to give us this form so that she and my 5-year-old stepdaughter can come home after the interview and the visas are received.

This man is involved with illegal activities in Ukraine. I don’t know the full extent of his actions, but to say the least, if he is ever caught, he is going away for a while. So while working, he is obviously “in hiding”. It some sort of theft/espionage thing from the government ...

Today, he informs my wife that at the end of March, he will be going to “work” clear across the country and will be gone for 6-8 months. He will simply disappear and she will have no way to contact him.

He will sign the form before he leaves, which gives us until the end of April to get my wife and stepdaughter out of the country.

That means we have to get our NOA2 (not here yet), get through the NVC to Kiev, interview, get her visa, then get her out of the country in a little less than 10 weeks. I don’t know if it is even feasible.

Basically, if we don’t accomplish this, she is stuck there (even with an approved visa) until he shows up again in 6-8 months to give her another document to let my stepdaughter out of the country. I can’t believe this.

This man will not make himself available so that my wife can reach him and help us out. This man is re-married, and will be having a child soon, and will not even come back to see his child born because of his “work”. He certainly would not make any special arrangements to meet my wife to give her the needed paperwork.

Does anyone know how long K3 is good for before it is used? I don’t want to go through all this, get the visa but miss out on the paperwork for my stepdaughter not allowing her to leave, wait until he decides to show up again, only to have the K3 expire and have to start this mess all over again.

I don’t know what to do. I feel like I am totally screwed. I am seriously losing it …

[jboy119 0]

Will he sign an undated copy? or post dated copies?

[SteveColo 0]

Will he sign an undated copy? or post dated copies?

I suggested this to her. That won't work, they have to be notarized and a notary won't stamp the document unless it's dated ...

[pushbrk 12,149]

In Ukraine, in order for a child of a divorced couple to leave the country, the non-custodial parent must sign a release, allowing child to leave the country. At one time I guess this form was good for 90 days. Recently that’s changed and now the document is only good for 30 days.

The x-husband of my wife had agreed to give us this form so that she and my 5-year-old stepdaughter can come home after the interview and the visas are received.

This man is involved with illegal activities in Ukraine. I don’t know the full extent of his actions, but to say the least, if he is ever caught, he is going away for a while. So while working, he is obviously “in hiding”. It some sort of theft/espionage thing from the government ...

Today, he informs my wife that at the end of March, he will be going to “work” clear across the country and will be gone for 6-8 months. He will simply disappear and she will have no way to contact him.

He will sign the form before he leaves, which gives us until the end of April to get my wife and stepdaughter out of the country.

That means we have to get our NOA2 (not here yet), get through the NVC to Kiev, interview, get her visa, then get her out of the country in a little less than 10 weeks. I don’t know if it is even feasible.

Basically, if we don’t accomplish this, she is stuck there (even with an approved visa) until he shows up again in 6-8 months to give her another document to let my stepdaughter out of the country. I can’t believe this.

This man will not make himself available so that my wife can reach him and help us out. This man is re-married, and will be having a child soon, and will not even come back to see his child born because of his “work”. He certainly would not make any special arrangements to meet my wife to give her the needed paperwork.

Does anyone know how long K3 is good for before it is used? I don’t want to go through all this, get the visa but miss out on the paperwork for my stepdaughter not allowing her to leave, wait until he decides to show up again, only to have the K3 expire and have to start this mess all over again.

I don’t know what to do. I feel like I am totally screwed. I am seriously losing it …

K3 and K4 visas from most countries including Ukraine, are valid for 24 months after issue date and for multiple entries. Does this letter require the signature be witnessed by a Notary Public or equivalent? If not, just type several with dates a month apart and have him sign them all.

[rebeccajo 14]

In Ukraine, in order for a child of a divorced couple to leave the country, the non-custodial parent must sign a release, allowing child to leave the country. At one time I guess this form was good for 90 days. Recently that’s changed and now the document is only good for 30 days.

The x-husband of my wife had agreed to give us this form so that she and my 5-year-old stepdaughter can come home after the interview and the visas are received.

This man is involved with illegal activities in Ukraine. I don’t know the full extent of his actions, but to say the least, if he is ever caught, he is going away for a while. So while working, he is obviously “in hiding”. It some sort of theft/espionage thing from the government ...

Today, he informs my wife that at the end of March, he will be going to “work” clear across the country and will be gone for 6-8 months. He will simply disappear and she will have no way to contact him.

He will sign the form before he leaves, which gives us until the end of April to get my wife and stepdaughter out of the country.

That means we have to get our NOA2 (not here yet), get through the NVC to Kiev, interview, get her visa, then get her out of the country in a little less than 10 weeks. I don’t know if it is even feasible.

Basically, if we don’t accomplish this, she is stuck there (even with an approved visa) until he shows up again in 6-8 months to give her another document to let my stepdaughter out of the country. I can’t believe this.

This man will not make himself available so that my wife can reach him and help us out. This man is re-married, and will be having a child soon, and will not even come back to see his child born because of his “work”. He certainly would not make any special arrangements to meet my wife to give her the needed paperwork.

Does anyone know how long K3 is good for before it is used? I don’t want to go through all this, get the visa but miss out on the paperwork for my stepdaughter not allowing her to leave, wait until he decides to show up again, only to have the K3 expire and have to start this mess all over again.

I don’t know what to do. I feel like I am totally screwed. I am seriously losing it …

K3 and K4 visas from most countries including Ukraine, are valid for 24 months after issue date and for multiple entries. Does this letter require the signature be witnessed by a Notary Public or equivalent? If not, just type several with dates a month apart and have him sign them all.

I doubt a notary would sign a forward dated document.

Are you CERTAIN of the requirements for such a letter for that consulate?

Edited February 19, 2009 by rebeccajo

[jboy119 0]

You'd be surprised what a notary will and won't do for $100 under the table.

Will he sign an undated copy? or post dated copies?

I suggested this to her. That won't work, they have to be notarized and a notary won't stamp the document unless it's dated ...

[SteveColo 0]

Are you CERTAIN of the requirements for such a letter for that consulate?

It's not for the consulate, but rather for customs. At the airport, they won't let my step-daughter get on the plane without this letter ...

[rebeccajo 14]

Is it for Customs or an airline requirement?

[SteveColo 0]

Customs. The government won't let her leave the country without this paperwork. There has been talk in the news over there about children being taken from Ukraine and sold elsewhere, so they are really cracking down on anyone taking a child out of the country.

[pushbrk 12,149]

In Ukraine, in order for a child of a divorced couple to leave the country, the non-custodial parent must sign a release, allowing child to leave the country. At one time I guess this form was good for 90 days. Recently that’s changed and now the document is only good for 30 days.

The x-husband of my wife had agreed to give us this form so that she and my 5-year-old stepdaughter can come home after the interview and the visas are received.

This man is involved with illegal activities in Ukraine. I don’t know the full extent of his actions, but to say the least, if he is ever caught, he is going away for a while. So while working, he is obviously “in hiding”. It some sort of theft/espionage thing from the government ...

Today, he informs my wife that at the end of March, he will be going to “work” clear across the country and will be gone for 6-8 months. He will simply disappear and she will have no way to contact him.

He will sign the form before he leaves, which gives us until the end of April to get my wife and stepdaughter out of the country.

That means we have to get our NOA2 (not here yet), get through the NVC to Kiev, interview, get her visa, then get her out of the country in a little less than 10 weeks. I don’t know if it is even feasible.

Basically, if we don’t accomplish this, she is stuck there (even with an approved visa) until he shows up again in 6-8 months to give her another document to let my stepdaughter out of the country. I can’t believe this.

This man will not make himself available so that my wife can reach him and help us out. This man is re-married, and will be having a child soon, and will not even come back to see his child born because of his “work”. He certainly would not make any special arrangements to meet my wife to give her the needed paperwork.

Does anyone know how long K3 is good for before it is used? I don’t want to go through all this, get the visa but miss out on the paperwork for my stepdaughter not allowing her to leave, wait until he decides to show up again, only to have the K3 expire and have to start this mess all over again.

I don’t know what to do. I feel like I am totally screwed. I am seriously losing it …

K3 and K4 visas from most countries including Ukraine, are valid for 24 months after issue date and for multiple entries. Does this letter require the signature be witnessed by a Notary Public or equivalent? If not, just type several with dates a month apart and have him sign them all.

I doubt a notary would sign a forward dated document.

Are you CERTAIN of the requirements for such a letter for that consulate?

No ethical Notary would. That's why I wrote, "If not....".

[rebeccajo 14]

Customs. The government won't let her leave the country without this paperwork. There has been talk in the news over there about children being taken from Ukraine and sold elsewhere, so they are really cracking down on anyone taking a child out of the country.

Ok.

I'd still be getting it from the horses mouth though, instead of news reports. Is there a source you can verify exactly what will be required?

I'm not trying to be 'picky'. I'm just suggesting you be certain what mountain you have to climb before you panic.

Oh wait, I just had a thought.....

Would this 'note' still be required even if the child has her K4 visa in her passport?

Edited February 19, 2009 by rebeccajo

[diadromous mermaid 36]

Does the biological father have an attorney? It might be possible for him to execute various documents with a range of dates before a notary (most attorney's have them on staff) at his attorney's office that could be "issued" to you when the time comes?

[rebeccajo 14]

Does the biological father have an attorney? It might be possible for him to execute various documents with a range of dates before a notary (most attorney's have them on staff) at his attorney's office that could be "issued" to you when the time comes?

*waves to the mermaid*

[Y's_habibitk 2]

I think you have some good suggestions.

find out EXACTLY what the law requires for her to clear customs. Do ask if the k4 establishes the fact that the father gave consent.

Try not to freak until you have all of the facts. I would ask your wife to get postdated affidavits from him, before he leaves anyway.

Keep us posted.

Lisa

[diadromous mermaid 36]

Does the biological father have an attorney? It might be possible for him to execute various documents with a range of dates before a notary (most attorney's have them on staff) at his attorney's office that could be "issued" to you when the time comes?

*waves to the mermaid*

*waves back. Hi there!*