Zarqawi Killed In Air Raid

[almaty 19]

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Yeah that's just dirty. The people they drop those bombs on would NEVER consider dropping a bomb in the middle of a crowd of innocent people.

Yeah everyone brings that into the equation, but thats not really the point.

The fact is the Israeli army is a direct 'official' extension of the Israeli government, and by definition the Israeli people. Compare that to the Palestinian authority which is arguably in charge of its people, and the many militant groups and unaffiliated militant individuals

Putting a government agency in the exact same position as the terrorists is at best, unethical.

yeap..true...then the gov't is rogue

[dalegg 143]

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Yeah that's just dirty. The people they drop those bombs on would NEVER consider dropping a bomb in the middle of a crowd of innocent people.

Yeah everyone brings that into the equation, but thats not really the point.

The fact is the Israeli army is a direct 'official' extension of the Israeli government, and by definition the Israeli people. Compare that to the Palestinian authority which is arguably in charge of its people, and the many militant groups and unaffiliated militant individuals

Putting a government agency in the exact same position as the terrorists is at best, unethical.

So..what should they do? And don't say leave the west bank.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Yeah that's just dirty. The people they drop those bombs on would NEVER consider dropping a bomb in the middle of a crowd of innocent people.

Yeah everyone brings that into the equation, but thats not really the point.

The fact is the Israeli army is a direct 'official' extension of the Israeli government, and by definition the Israeli people. Compare that to the Palestinian authority which is arguably in charge of its people, and the many militant groups and unaffiliated militant individuals

Putting a government agency in the exact same position as the terrorists is at best, unethical.

So..what should they do? And don't say leave the west bank.

Why not?

I don't know the solution - but it seems clear to me that repaying blood for blood over decades is not viable and isn't going to make the problem go away until one side has wiped out the other.

Actually if they are true to the principles of most developed nations, they wouldn't allow terrorists to intimidate them (and neither would we for that matter).

[bhajishah 4]

Just curious to know how two 500 lb bombs can pinpoint one man and decide who he was and where he was and then kill him, manage to leave his face in one piece and destroy the building he was in. Oh and how do you know he wasn`t surrounded by totally good decent human beings who just happened to be nearby?

This really doesn`t add up sorry. It is another black op methinks.

Personally i never rejoice in death no matter who it is. No murder can make the world a better place for me even if he was as evil as THEY say. He is probably just another asset of the CIA.

Maybe he was "thrown clear"

Nice to see ya brother Dean, here here, how many deaths are we up too 2500 american, its too many not to mention the children and women of Iraq, Saddam was an a$$hole , but he had hospitals, universities, jobs for his people, what do they have now.. this war is putting Iraq into a bloody civil war, and civil wars are known to tear up a country(internally) worse than any invading external opponet could muster

As for Zarqawi, now he will be a glorified martyr for the radical sects,and the dishearted youth. got a bomb dropped on him(way to go) . special ops should have went in pulled his sorry butt out for a one on one ### kicking live on CNN.

they should have hid him or ignored his bs like Osama.. he would have lost his credibility sooner or later.

NOw there will probably be a Zarqawi replacement

fish dude brother is right, the ####### will never end as long as no one listens to reaso,history, andkeeps on carrying on the same games as usual

[almaty 19]

Just curious to know how two 500 lb bombs can pinpoint one man and decide who he was and where he was and then kill him, manage to leave his face in one piece and destroy the building he was in. Oh and how do you know he wasn`t surrounded by totally good decent human beings who just happened to be nearby?

This really doesn`t add up sorry. It is another black op methinks.

Personally i never rejoice in death no matter who it is. No murder can make the world a better place for me even if he was as evil as THEY say. He is probably just another asset of the CIA.

Maybe he was "thrown clear"

Nice to see ya brother Dean, here here, how many deaths are we up too 2500 american, its too many not to mention the children and women of Iraq, Saddam was an a$$hole , but he had hospitals, universities, jobs for his people, what do they have now.. this war is putting Iraq into a bloody civil war, and civil wars are known to tear up a country(internally) worse than any invading external opponet could muster

As for Zarqawi, now he will be a glorified martyr for the radical sects,and the dishearted youth. got a bomb dropped on him(way to go) . special ops should have went in pulled his sorry butt out for a one on one ### kicking live on CNN.

they should have hid him or ignored his bs like Osama.. he would have lost his credibility sooner or later.

NOw there will probably be a Zarqawi replacement

fish dude brother is right, the ####### will never end as long as no one listens to reaso,history, andkeeps on carrying on the same games as usual

greetings to my sister cindi..missed by me...your brother dean

Edited June 9, 2006 by almaty2004

[incanada1234 0]

yes... I've always noticed that the U.S. doesnt help solve the lack of democracy in countries where we wont make any useful gains.

What are we gaining in Iraq again? I know you aren't going to say oil, right? Because if that were so, we wouldn't be paying the astronomical prices we're paying.

[Razor 0]

yes... I've always noticed that the U.S. doesnt help solve the lack of democracy in countries where we wont make any useful gains.

What are we gaining in Iraq again? I know you aren't going to say oil, right? Because if that were so, we wouldn't be paying the astronomical prices we're paying.

We are not gaining a thing but the corporations are scoreing record profits someone always gains at the end.

[rclouse 0]

Just curious to know how two 500 lb bombs can pinpoint one man and decide who he was and where he was and then kill him, manage to leave his face in one piece and destroy the building he was in. Oh and how do you know he wasn`t surrounded by totally good decent human beings who just happened to be nearby?

This really doesn`t add up sorry. It is another black op methinks.

This morning they're reporting that he was still alive when US military arrived, but died later. Linky!

[yabasta 0]

This morning they're reporting that he was still alive when US military arrived, but died later. Linky!

Yes hardly a scratch despite two. Not one but two 500lb bombs being dropped in his not so safe house. Maybe he had the same safe house where they find the Osama confession tapes.

p.s. just look at the building in the pictures fromt he link you posted. That building is rubble and it seems a bit like the capture of Saddam to me. Ask yourself what was kept off the front page and how much this boosted the approval rating of mr Bush. Total black op.

[slim 1,533]

"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."

I have to ask... why is beheading someone or setting off a carbomb a terrorist action, but dropping laser guided bombs from jets on them while they sleep not?

Bad analogy.

A person being killed by a car bomb is usually just some passerby and innocent victim, very often a woman or child . Same with the unfortunate people who were savagely beheaded. (they were truck drivers, ....news reporters etc...such as Daniel Pearl.....and had absolutely nothing to do with what Zarqawi and the others were fighting against).

You`re going to compare a person like Zarqawi and equate him to an innocent victim like the others?

He was a militant and very much involved with the insurgency in Iraq. He also supposedly was the one who personally beheaded Nick Berg and others.

To equate someone like him to some innocent victim being blown up by a car bomb is nonsense.

Not to mention the fact that it`s a heckuva lot more humane to kill someone the way Zarqawi died..(####### probably didn`t even feel a thing).......than to slowly cut away at someone`s neck for several agonizing minutes while he is screaming in pain......all while he is methodically beheaded on film.

Thanks Joe America! Thank you for proving my point. You and all those other "the dirty terrorists are so bad becuase they kill innocent people" posters out there.

Today the military press conference from the Pentagon released a new statement saying that Al-Zarqawi was killed shortly after the airstrike on his safehouse along with his spiritual advisor (now if that's not a military target.... I don't know what is (SARCASM NOTED?)) another man, and 3 women.

Innocent victims???

To further make my point..... Al-Zarqawi and other Al-Qaeda members allegedly beheaded US military members and contracted truck drivers. A person wearing the uniform of the military force that's occupying your country IS A MILITARY TARGET!!! A civilian... while driving a truck full of supplies for the military force that's occupying your country IS A MILITARY TARGET!!! Beheading those personnel engaged in occupying your country IS A MILITARY ACTION!!!

Now, before you start grumbling about "unarmed personnel aren't actually military targets because under LOAC, if they're unarmed or injured, or if they're not actually combatants engaging in a military action at the time, they're protected under LOAC...." ask yourself why those 3 women killed at the Al-Zarqawi residence yesterday weren't protected under LOAC either?

And since we're on the subject... take a trip down to Cuba and ask the 350+ Muslim men who were kidnapped and held without charges or trial why they aren't covered under LOAC either.

Then since you're still saying to yourself "what the hell is slim's problem? Terrorists need to all die!" Ask yourself one last question....

Why does President Bush drop a bomb on a house and kill 6 people and it's a military action, but a man defending his homeland and way of life who beheads a military member of the enemy's occupying force get labeled as a terrorist?

Now you're going to answer: "Because... they kill innocent people.... and they're dirty Islamic fundamentalist terrorists." Well, keep on watching CNN because they're going to keep on telling you that as long as you still believe it.

(Bonus..... why won't we ever capture Osama?... my father yesterday was saying how "we got Zakahira or whatever his name is... Bin Ladin is next!" My response: "But dad.... without Bin Ladin, who is Bush going to point the finger at for all of our problems? Without a great nemesis, all of our problems can't be blamed on "the dirty Isalmic terrorists" but HAVE TO BE BLAMED ON BUSH!!!" Don't believe me still.... ask Kim Jong-Il. (If you even know who he is.))

PROPAGANDA!!!! Don't lose sight of what's really important in this country... what that piece of paper signed on July 4th, 1776 says. Remember why America is the best nation in the world, don't let CNN confuse you. Keep your eyes on the prize.

[yabasta 0]

(Bonus..... why won't we ever capture Osama?... my father yesterday was saying how "we got Zakahira or whatever his name is... Bin Ladin is next!" My response: "But dad.... without Bin Ladin, who is Bush going to point the finger at for all of our problems? Without a great nemesis, all of our problems can't be blamed on "the dirty Isalmic terrorists" but HAVE TO BE BLAMED ON BUSH!!!" Don't believe me still.... ask Kim Jong-Il. (If you even know who he is.))

PROPAGANDA!!!! Don't lose sight of what's really important in this country... what that piece of paper signed on July 4th, 1776 says. Remember why America is the best nation in the world, don't let CNN confuse you. Keep your eyes on the prize.

True and he might already be dead of course.

[000OOO000 0]

How else was the military suppose to get him? Wait til hes alone and zoom in and bomb only him? Bologna! The man is always gonna be surrounded and those ppl who surround him are no good as well to associate themselves with him.. .those women too. Yes, Zaraqwi was a terrorist and should we let him get away cuz he was "defending his country" heck no! (He was a native of Jordan anyhow) His ppl masterminded 9/11 they initiated this behaviour and America isnt gonna stand by and let him and his entire organization get away with it. Slim I dont understand how you can feel this way I think its absurd and I dont watch CNN and I can make my own judgements.

[yabasta 0]

How else was the military suppose to get him? Wait til hes alone and zoom in and bomb only him? Bologna! The man is always gonna be surrounded and those ppl who surround him are no good as well to associate themselves with him.. .those women too. Yes, Zaraqwi was a terrorist and should we let him get away cuz he was "defending his country" heck no! (He was a native of Jordan anyhow) His ppl masterminded 9/11 they initiated this behaviour and America isnt gonna stand by and let him and his entire organization get away with it. Slim I dont understand how you can feel this way I think its absurd and I dont watch CNN and I can make my own judgements.

How can you speak with such authority on the people around him? People near you at any time could be anybody. Also how much do you even know about Zarqawi and where did you get that information. When information is fed to people it becomes very hard to really be sure of anything yet you have this man involved in 9/11. What is your basis for this may i ask?

Also the miltary has more than bombs that could be used. This bomb has just created more anger towards the occupying forces.

[mawilson 2,133]

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Except they don't do that. The Israeli army goes to great lengths to

avoid civilian casualties and, in many cases, have put their soldiers in

harm's way in the process.

One good example is the battle of Jenin of 2002, when 20 or so Israeli

soldiers were ambushed and killed, Israel's greatest combat loss in years.

They could have bombed the ####### out of that place instead of sending

soldiers in to be slaughtered but they didn't.

[000OOO000 0]

Oh yea Im sure those "innnocent" ppl didnt know who he was in that house.