UK Indian Restaurant turns away blind man's service dogs

[Mags 112]

Does not animals carry diseases and viruses that can transer and be deadly to humans..Ie aids sars etc.Some scientific backing to those outdatd beliefs.

In UK the browns are the terrorists and or workers..seem to be v much down upon. case in point

A guide dog is not classified as a pet in the UK - it's a working dog and it's illegal to not admit one to any premises.

And no, "browns" are not "down upon" in the UK. Overall we're a pretty free thinking country.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Does not animals carry diseases and viruses that can transer and be deadly to humans..Ie aids sars etc.Some scientific backing to those outdatd beliefs.

In UK the browns are the terrorists and or workers..seem to be v much down upon. case in point

A guide dog is not classified as a pet in the UK - it's a working dog and it's illegal to not admit one to any premises.

And no, "browns" are not "down upon" in the UK. Overall we're a pretty free thinking country.

In response to Cindi...browns are popular at least for their cuisine; last-i-checked, UK's national dish is.....curry!

[mRx 16]

I really don't think this warrants a lawsuit. It is, afterall, the Muslim's restaurant. If he is willing to sacrifice business for his religion, then the business will be taken elsewhere.

Would be true if he weren't in violation of the country's laws.

He added that he is pursuing legal action under the Disability Discrimination Act, which has made it unlawful since 1996 for restaurants to refuse to serve a disabled person - including blind people with guide dogs.

Well then it's a senseless law.

The business is essentially "private property", and the government should never force you to accept anyone on your property without your consent.

But you're right, the law is in place, so he can sue away.

[Ban Hammer 12,836]

Agreed, I hate seeing pets near me if I'm in a restaurant eating.

not uncommon to see dogs in german restaurants. i used to take my dog to a few restaurants because they were welcome. plus my dog behaved better than some of the kids there.

[Nagishkaw 510]

That law is messed up.

[Nothing1234 2]

Agreed, I hate seeing pets near me if I'm in a restaurant eating.

not uncommon to see dogs in german restaurants. i used to take my dog to a few restaurants because they were welcome. plus my dog behaved better than some of the kids there.

Or don't visit LA...every other table there is a lap dog!

[bhajishah 4]

ok brown-muslims..hard to build a mosque outside of the barrio "neghborhood"

[Mags 112]

ok brown-muslims..hard to build a mosque outside of the barrio "neghborhood"

Actually no, it isn't. There are Mosques all over the place in the UK. In fact, where I used to live, one of the largest Mosques in the UK was built - and it was way out side of the "barrio".

I really don't think this warrants a lawsuit. It is, afterall, the Muslim's restaurant. If he is willing to sacrifice business for his religion, then the business will be taken elsewhere.

Would be true if he weren't in violation of the country's laws.

He added that he is pursuing legal action under the Disability Discrimination Act, which has made it unlawful since 1996 for restaurants to refuse to serve a disabled person - including blind people with guide dogs.

Well then it's a senseless law.

The business is essentially "private property", and the government should never force you to accept anyone on your property without your consent.

But you're right, the law is in place, so he can sue away.

But think about it from the blind person's POV. They can't do much without this dog, who has become their "fifth limb." To be shunned from businesses because you're blind and use a dog rather than a stick, is wrong.

[bhajishah 4]

Yes and there was a big petition against that mosque started by council members. overall i do believe you. As you are from there/lived there.

To me it seemed that desis were and are treated like Mexicans are here. Workers in this case making curry not chalupas.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

ZOMG! Such ignorant beliefs. Such intolerance should be severly punished.

and ummmm..... since when are muslims automatically 'brown'? ZOMG ####### YFKM

Not exactly common that the owner of an Indian restaurant would be of non-Subcontinental origin.

Actually its pretty common. "Indian" in the UK is a catchall for Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian - at least where restaurants are concerned.

[Jenn! 918]

I'm on the blind people side of this one.

Go seeing-eye dogs!

[mRx 16]

I really don't think this warrants a lawsuit. It is, afterall, the Muslim's restaurant. If he is willing to sacrifice business for his religion, then the business will be taken elsewhere.

Would be true if he weren't in violation of the country's laws.

He added that he is pursuing legal action under the Disability Discrimination Act, which has made it unlawful since 1996 for restaurants to refuse to serve a disabled person - including blind people with guide dogs.

Well then it's a senseless law.

The business is essentially "private property", and the government should never force you to accept anyone on your property without your consent.

But you're right, the law is in place, so he can sue away.

But think about it from the blind person's POV. They can't do much without this dog, who has become their "fifth limb." To be shunned from businesses because you're blind and use a dog rather than a stick, is wrong.

Yes, I consider it morally wrong, but apparently the owner of that restaurant does not. And that's the point.

The only real loser in this case is the restaurant owner. He lost business with a potential customer, and will lose significantly more as this news spreads. If he wishes to limit his customer clientele, he does so at his own detriment.

And I'm fairly certain most restaurants would welcome the business of a blind man with a service animal, even without a law forcing it. Not even out of generosity either. But solely because more customers = more profits. And profits are of utmost concern to businesses.

Edited December 17, 2008 by Matt85

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

ok brown-muslims..hard to build a mosque outside of the barrio "neghborhood"

Actually no, it isn't. There are Mosques all over the place in the UK. In fact, where I used to live, one of the largest Mosques in the UK was built - and it was way out side of the "barrio".

I really don't think this warrants a lawsuit. It is, afterall, the Muslim's restaurant. If he is willing to sacrifice business for his religion, then the business will be taken elsewhere.

Would be true if he weren't in violation of the country's laws.

He added that he is pursuing legal action under the Disability Discrimination Act, which has made it unlawful since 1996 for restaurants to refuse to serve a disabled person - including blind people with guide dogs.

Well then it's a senseless law.

The business is essentially "private property", and the government should never force you to accept anyone on your property without your consent.

But you're right, the law is in place, so he can sue away.

But think about it from the blind person's POV. They can't do much without this dog, who has become their "fifth limb." To be shunned from businesses because you're blind and use a dog rather than a stick, is wrong.

Yes, I consider it morally wrong, but apparently the owner of that restaurant does not. And that's the point.

The only real loser in this case is the restaurant owner. He lost business with a potential customer, and will lose significantly more as this news spreads. If he wishes to limit his customer clientele, he does so at his own detriment.

And I'm fairly certain most restaurants would welcome the business of a blind man with a service animal, even without a law forcing it. Not even out of generosity either. But solely because more customers = more profits. And profits are of utmost concern to businesses.

Yeah - I agree with you there. Its not as though the blind guy is exactly strapped for choice for where to go for Indian food. If the restaurant is selective about its clientele it deserves to lose revenue.

ZOMG! Such ignorant beliefs. Such intolerance should be severly punished.

and ummmm..... since when are muslims automatically 'brown'? ZOMG ####### YFKM

Not exactly common that the owner of an Indian restaurant would be of non-Subcontinental origin.

Actually its pretty common. "Indian" in the UK is a catchall for Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Indian - at least where restaurants are concerned.

Sorry Cherry - I read that wrong. Never mind.

[Jenn! 918]

I'm sure revenue from blind clientele will not make or break the business.

Disabled people need protection under the law.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm sure revenue from blind clientele will not make or break the business.

Disabled people need protection under the law.

Well that is also true. Its not exactly a cause and effect relationship. It would have more of an impact overall if the restaurant had generally bad service.