I-129F - Proving relationship

[hahuhobrad 0]

Hello,

I'm sending in the I-129F and I have to talk about meeting in person and show proof of an ongoing relationship.

Here is the situation. I lived in Korea for 2 years during which I met my wife online. She lives in Thailand with is about a 5 hour flight. We visited each other often and for weeks at a time. I have airline receipts for at least 5 visits. My wife is in school in Thailand so she never came to live with me. Now, I am back in the USA and I've been to see her 2 times in the last year.

Here is my question.

What kinds of things should I include in the I-129F to demonstrate our ongoing relationship? Should I tell our story to them? Should I include copies of tickets, ring receipts, or maybe bank statements showing my financial support to her. I applied forand received a Tax Identification number...should I provide them with a copy of that document?

What is the very best type of information to provide, and how much should I include in the I-129F packet? I could send them 50 pages worth of stuff, cards, letters...I mean, you name it, and we have it. Like all couples do, we have lots of momentoes.

thank you!

Brad

[Leland 0]

Hello,

I'm sending in the I-129F and I have to talk about meeting in person and show proof of an ongoing relationship.

Here is the situation. I lived in Korea for 2 years during which I met my wife online. She lives in Thailand with is about a 5 hour flight. We visited each other often and for weeks at a time. I have airline receipts for at least 5 visits. My wife is in school in Thailand so she never came to live with me. Now, I am back in the USA and I've been to see her 2 times in the last year.

Here is my question.

What kinds of things should I include in the I-129F to demonstrate our ongoing relationship? Should I tell our story to them? Should I include copies of tickets, ring receipts, or maybe bank statements showing my financial support to her. I applied forand received a Tax Identification number...should I provide them with a copy of that document?

What is the very best type of information to provide, and how much should I include in the I-129F packet? I could send them 50 pages worth of stuff, cards, letters...I mean, you name it, and we have it. Like all couples do, we have lots of momentoes.

thank you!

Brad

Sawsdee Brad!

I supplied things like the following:

E-mails

Pictures

Plane tickets

yahoo/msn chat printouts

Cards

FedEx receipts for gifts

I submitted about 20-30 pages of the above stuff. I also marked in the copy of my passport all of the entries into Thailand, including the 6 month stay when I met my wife. Keep in mind for the basic submission, you have to supply a lot of stuff, so throwing in a lot of substantiation is just making the thing a bigger & bigger book.

I would say that you have MORE than an adequate amount of stuff. Pick some stuff and send it with the rest of the information requested with the I-129F submission. I'm an enginerd, so I really well organized mine. I had labelled tabs corresponding to the table of contents on the submission letter.

FWIW, I took about 700 pages worth of stuff to Thailand for the interview & didn't need much at all.

Just be well organized & double, triple, quadruple check your work & you'll be ok.

Best of Luck!

Lee

[aussiewench 9]

hahuhobrad

Only those filing the I-129F for a fiance are required to show evidence of having met etc. You are married so you are filing the I-129F for a spouse. Same form but different requirements. Have a read of the instructions with the form from USCIS website and read the section on those filing for a spouse K-3. Have you filed the I-130 yet which is a requirement before filing the I-129F?

Read the K-3 guide which you will find in the Guides Tab at the top of the page.

Lee,

You are/where K-1 for fiance?

Sawsdee Brad!

I supplied things like the following:

E-mails

Pictures

Plane tickets

yahoo/msn chat printouts

Cards

FedEx receipts for gifts

I submitted about 20-30 pages of the above stuff. I also marked in the copy of my passport all of the entries into Thailand, including the 6 month stay when I met my wife. Keep in mind for the basic submission, you have to supply a lot of stuff, so throwing in a lot of substantiation is just making the thing a bigger & bigger book.

I would say that you have MORE than an adequate amount of stuff. Pick some stuff and send it with the rest of the information requested with the I-129F submission. I'm an enginerd, so I really well organized mine. I had labelled tabs corresponding to the table of contents on the submission letter.

FWIW, I took about 700 pages worth of stuff to Thailand for the interview & didn't need much at all.

Just be well organized & double, triple, quadruple check your work & you'll be ok.

Best of Luck!

Lee

Edited June 1, 2006 by aussiewench

[hahuhobrad 0]

yes, have received NOA1 from I-130. Directions for spouse are not seperated from fiance.

hahuhobrad

Only those filing the I-129F for a fiance are required to show evidence of having met etc. You are married so you are filing the I-129F for a spouse. Same form but different requirements. Have a read of the instructions with the form from USCIS website and read the section on those filing for a spouse K-3. Have you filed the I-130 yet which is a requirement before filing the I-129F?

Read the K-3 guide which you will find in the Guides Tab at the top of the page.

Lee,

You are/where K-1 for fiance?

Sawsdee Brad!

I supplied things like the following:

E-mails

Pictures

Plane tickets

yahoo/msn chat printouts

Cards

FedEx receipts for gifts

I submitted about 20-30 pages of the above stuff. I also marked in the copy of my passport all of the entries into Thailand, including the 6 month stay when I met my wife. Keep in mind for the basic submission, you have to supply a lot of stuff, so throwing in a lot of substantiation is just making the thing a bigger & bigger book.

I would say that you have MORE than an adequate amount of stuff. Pick some stuff and send it with the rest of the information requested with the I-129F submission. I'm an enginerd, so I really well organized mine. I had labelled tabs corresponding to the table of contents on the submission letter.

FWIW, I took about 700 pages worth of stuff to Thailand for the interview & didn't need much at all.

Just be well organized & double, triple, quadruple check your work & you'll be ok.

Best of Luck!

Lee

Lee,

It's so nice to hear from someone who went through the process in Thailand. I'm worried about several things. First of all, my wife, smart as she is, has not really fully engaged in this process. she is very busy and since I am doing everything at this point, she has not put in the effort to read and understand the whole process. heck, I'm not sure if she could ever understand the whole process unless she could read it in Thai.

She is going to have to do a few things eventually. Get her medical and police records, and then, she will probably interview by herself. Can you tell me about the medical and police report process? And, knowing Thai culture, any other input as to how you made the process easier for you wife would be awsome.

thanks

Brad

[aussiewench 9]

yes, have received NOA1 from I-130. Directions for spouse are not seperated from fiance.

From the I-129F Instructions that accompany the form.

11. How Do You Use This Form for Your Spouse or Child Seeking Entry With a K-3/K-4 Visa?

This form may be used to obtain a K-3/K-4 visa for your alien spouse and her or his child. Fill out the form as directed, except assume that "fiancé" or "fiancé(e)" means"spouse." answer Questions B.17 and B.18 by stating "N/A." Note that filing this form is only necessary to facilitate the entry of your spouse and her or his child as a nonimmigrant.

You must submit the documents required in Questions 3, 4 and 6 of the instructions, but may omit the documents required in Question 5. In addition, U.S. citizens petitioning for K-3 visas for their alien spouses must also include evidence that they have filed Form I-130, Petitionfor Alien Relative, on behalf of the alien spouse listed on this form, and a marriage certificate evidencing the legal marriage between the citizen and alien.

The LIFE Act requires applicants to apply for a K-3/K-4 visa in the country where their marriage to the U.S. citizen petitioner occurred. Petitioners should make sure to identify the appropriate consulate, in the same country where they married the alien for whom they are petitioning, in block 19 to avoid lengthy delays. In the event the petitioner and alien were married in the United States, they should list the country of the alien's current residence.

[hahuhobrad 0]

Thank you so much for giving me information that I have read 100 times already. I even have a copy right in front of me, on my desk. The documents required for 3, 4 and 6 are.....THE MAIN THINGS IN THE PACKET. Birth cert. Biographical info. I did not asked how to put the I-129 packet together...I asked what is the best information for proving an ongoing relationship. I was looking for 'ground truth' information from people with experience; not the USCIS.

[lucyrich 19]

Thank you so much for giving me information that I have read 100 times already. I even have a copy right in front of me, on my desk. The documents required for 3, 4 and 6 are.....THE MAIN THINGS IN THE PACKET. Birth cert. Biographical info. I did not asked how to put the I-129 packet together...I asked what is the best information for proving an ongoing relationship. I was looking for 'ground truth' information from people with experience; not the USCIS.

That information that you read 100 times is correct. We provided absolutely no relationship evidence with our I-130 or I-129F, other than our marriage certificate. We were approved with no RFEs. While providing a little bit of relationship evidence at the petition stage is almost certainly harmless, I've been watching this board for quite awhile now, and I still haven't heard of anyone being denied or RFE'd at the petition stage for not providing relationship proof. RFE's at the petition stage are usually due to not providing the things explicitly required (proof of meeting in person within the two years prior to petition filing gets a lot of K-1'ers).

The relationship thing is normally checked at the interview stage. That's where you should have the proof ready. Many times, the interviewer doesn't ask for it, but often enough, it is requested.

[aussiewench 9]

Thank you so much for giving me information that I have read 100 times already. I even have a copy right in front of me, on my desk. The documents required for 3, 4 and 6 are.....THE MAIN THINGS IN THE PACKET. Birth cert. Biographical info. I did not asked how to put the I-129 packet together...I asked what is the best information for proving an ongoing relationship. I was looking for 'ground truth' information from people with experience; not the USCIS.

Excuse me I gave you experience already darlin'

Then go ahead and submit it the same as a fiance does hahahaha Talk about rude

You asked about providing evidence of having met and ongoing relationship to submit with the I-129F

THAT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR SPOUSES

Edited June 1, 2006 by aussiewench

[hahuhobrad 0]

Awsome! Thanks for the information. Everything I read before talked about submitting pictures and letters and chat sessions. When your trying to be so meticulous about these packets, that can really throw you. I could spend weeks putting together a proven timeline of events. Now, I can just send it! Thanks you.

[Yodrak 7]

hahuhobrad,

Better read it 100 more times. The relationship that you need to document for I-129f for spouse is that you are married. A certificate of marriage is all it takes.

Yodrak

Thank you so much for giving me information that I have read 100 times already. I even have a copy right in front of me, on my desk. The documents required for 3, 4 and 6 are.....THE MAIN THINGS IN THE PACKET. Birth cert. Biographical info. I did not asked how to put the I-129 packet together...I asked what is the best information for proving an ongoing relationship. I was looking for 'ground truth' information from people with experience; not the USCIS.

[M+S 0]

of course you don't have to submit any evidence of ongoig relationship when you apply for K3 only your marriage papers ..My husband did that and my paper now is in the Embassy ..no RFE at all ..

these evidences you may need to send to her at the time of the inteview so she can prove there is ongoing marriage going on..that's it

Good luck and best wishes

[girl 37 7]

Everything I read before talked about submitting pictures and letters and chat sessions.

Maybe you were reading the wrong forum.

[jazzy 0]

Hahuhobrad,

The instructions can be confusing for alot of people....i think most people have read them 100 times or more...your not alone. What others have said here is correct...all you need is the marraige certificate...we also submitted some pictures of us and the wedding...but even that isnt needed. No need to read it 100 more times....

Good luck, Jazzy