US - Ireland Visa Deal

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Half the white people in NY are Irish anyway, of course they don't care.

[ginger1981 0]

Cool, the craic will be awesome! Just so long as I can still make fun of the ones with flaming red hair and hot tempers!

#### YOU!

Half the white people in NY are Irish anyway, of course they don't care.

Good point...I think I saw somewhere that something like 90 million Americans have some Irish ancestry. I guess it ain't so bad when it is yer own people eh?

I wonder what Property Management firms are over there and how they are doing? I can't imagine it being any better than here in the US right now, but it would be interesting to see if anyone is hiring.

[Peikko 1,575]

Cool, the craic will be awesome! Just so long as I can still make fun of the ones with flaming red hair and hot tempers!

#### YOU!

Half the white people in NY are Irish anyway, of course they don't care.

Good point...I think I saw somewhere that something like 90 million Americans have some Irish ancestry. I guess it ain't so bad when it is yer own people eh?

I wonder what Property Management firms are over there and how they are doing? I can't imagine it being any better than here in the US right now, but it would be interesting to see if anyone is hiring.

Hey, I'm only conforming to my English heritage stereotype

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

That is a very interesting visa.

Usually they require people to be specialized in a field or at the very least have a BA.

Based on stuff I have read in recent months (which I can't find now) this is part of an overhaul of the various visas available to young people to work in certain countries. As I understand it the "blue card" or BUNAC that used to be available for US students (which I used back in the day) to go work in Oz, NZ, UK, Ireland and what not and the commonwealth working holiday visa is being replaced and extended with a new visa classifications.

It's good for US people because it offers them greater opportunities to go live abroad for longer periods of time - as I understand it anyway.

[JelloShotGirl 0]

i guess they want to get more white people here LOL!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

i guess they want to get more white people here LOL!

What's the point, as soon as they make real money they'll move to wherever all the other white people already are.

[ginger1981 0]

Cool, the craic will be awesome! Just so long as I can still make fun of the ones with flaming red hair and hot tempers!

#### YOU!

Half the white people in NY are Irish anyway, of course they don't care.

Good point...I think I saw somewhere that something like 90 million Americans have some Irish ancestry. I guess it ain't so bad when it is yer own people eh?

I wonder what Property Management firms are over there and how they are doing? I can't imagine it being any better than here in the US right now, but it would be interesting to see if anyone is hiring.

Hey, I'm only conforming to my English heritage stereotype

I'm English, Irish, and Welsh...I'm constantly telling myself to #### OFF

[Alex+R 0]

That is a very interesting visa.

Usually they require people to be specialized in a field or at the very least have a BA.

Based on stuff I have read in recent months (which I can't find now) this is part of an overhaul of the various visas available to young people to work in certain countries. As I understand it the "blue card" or BUNAC that used to be available for US students (which I used back in the day) to go work in Oz, NZ, UK, Ireland and what not and the commonwealth working holiday visa is being replaced and extended with a new visa classifications.

It's good for US people because it offers them greater opportunities to go live abroad for longer periods of time - as I understand it anyway.

BUNAC was the company that helped you get one of those visas, right? And you had to be a student or within one semester of graduation? I hope this new visa doesn't have an age cap of 22 or something!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

That is a very interesting visa.

Usually they require people to be specialized in a field or at the very least have a BA.

Based on stuff I have read in recent months (which I can't find now) this is part of an overhaul of the various visas available to young people to work in certain countries. As I understand it the "blue card" or BUNAC that used to be available for US students (which I used back in the day) to go work in Oz, NZ, UK, Ireland and what not and the commonwealth working holiday visa is being replaced and extended with a new visa classifications.

It's good for US people because it offers them greater opportunities to go live abroad for longer periods of time - as I understand it anyway.

BUNAC was the company that helped you get one of those visas, right? And you had to be a student or within one semester of graduation? I hope this new visa doesn't have an age cap of 22 or something!

That's right. I'm trying to find the info I read about this - I think when I was reading what was relevant to the UK, I was under the impression it would be more similar to the Working Holiday visa they have there for commonwealth countries, which was capped at 30, I think.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

found the info I was looking for (as it related to UK):

http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=43463.0

[Nikita2Charles 33]

Being in the sillicon valley, where the area is already like a little asia. Tech Jobs are heavily under pressure with the economy condition and all the H1 working here, Adding those that are on Companies B1, Those on L1 visa with so many visa types out there. Do we really need 20,000 additional workers to this current Job market?

As Bill gate and he'll tell you they should get rid off the status and make it Unlimited

Ask some engineers who had goten the Pink Slip(unemployment)

Ask some engineers whose Jobs been outsourced

Ask some engineers who's been looking for work for the past few months.

Ask some engineers whose been BYPASS not because of his qualification but because the company get one someone for Cheap labor under those different visa scheme.

WORSE one ask someone whose been denied a Job because they are here LEGALLY, being penalized for being AMERICAN, BEING HERE in the country Legally with a green Card.

Exact word from an HR person whose tongue got slipped" If the person was in XXXXX country she would have goten hired, this Job is reserved for someone with an H1 from XXXXX. But yet the Job listing is under a US location. NOBODY IS MONITORING THOSE VISA JOBS REQUIREMENT<

HAS ANY OF THOSE COMPANIES EVER SHOW PROOF THEY HAVE TRIED IN GOOD FAITH TO HIRE LOCALLY/USA? and they are going to bring someone from overseas because they couldn't find the necessary skill set?

Ask any of those folks and they will give you a piece of their mind regarding adding 20,000 more visas.

Edited September 19, 2008 by Nikita2Charles

[aidan80 9]

Unless I'm mistaken the minimum requirements that I've read were:

1. High School Education

2. OR Trade School Certification

If most of those 20,000 where at the bottom of the pile I'd say your engineers don't have anything to worry about. Don't forget that 20,000 runs both ways, they'll allow 20,000 US Citizens into Ireland as well. I think from what I've read in the past one of the reasons behind this was to help find a way to adjust those who overstayed their visas and being "illegal" or "undocumented" and to help those US Citizens that went to Ireland and stayed as well.. My wife was one of em for a wee while lol.

I am shocked there hasn't been more of an uproar about this but it does look in a lot of ways like people here they basically don't give a shite if a rich white western nation gets extra visas?

The only thing that sickens me more than those that blame everything on the big bad "Mexicans" is those of my own that come over, overstay then complain about it! I read in the paper back home a few months ago, this guy comes to the US, overstays, setup's a business, marries another "illegal/undocumented" irish girl then has the nerve to complain to the press that he can't go back home if someone was stick/dying because they won't let him back into the US.. Well Duh!!.. you overstayed your welcome you idiot! You where not exactly starving or living in third world conditions before you left? You didn't have to sneak or pay some lowlife to smuggle you over the border? He could have stayed back home and setup business made a good life? The guy came over here broke all the rules!.. that really annoys me. That to me is wrong more wrong than someone coming in without inspection and working like a slave in the hopes of making something better than what they had back home. I know it's not always like this but still..

I'm very 50/50 on that visa it could be good but.. there are others that need something more than we do! It's nice to try and maybe legalize the "illegal irish" but what about the "illegal" everyone else?

[NickyMcMillan 0]

Unless I'm mistaken the minimum requirements that I've read were:

1. High School Education

2. OR Trade School Certification

If most of those 20,000 where at the bottom of the pile I'd say your engineers don't have anything to worry about. Don't forget that 20,000 runs both ways, they'll allow 20,000 US Citizens into Ireland as well. I think from what I've read in the past one of the reasons behind this was to help find a way to adjust those who overstayed their visas and being "illegal" or "undocumented" and to help those US Citizens that went to Ireland and stayed as well.. My wife was one of em for a wee while lol.

I am shocked there hasn't been more of an uproar about this but it does look in a lot of ways like people here they basically don't give a shite if a rich white western nation gets extra visas?

The only thing that sickens me more than those that blame everything on the big bad "Mexicans" is those of my own that come over, overstay then complain about it! I read in the paper back home a few months ago, this guy comes to the US, overstays, setup's a business, marries another "illegal/undocumented" irish girl then has the nerve to complain to the press that he can't go back home if someone was stick/dying because they won't let him back into the US.. Well Duh!!.. you overstayed your welcome you idiot! You where not exactly starving or living in third world conditions before you left? You didn't have to sneak or pay some lowlife to smuggle you over the border? He could have stayed back home and setup business made a good life? The guy came over here broke all the rules!.. that really annoys me. That to me is wrong more wrong than someone coming in without inspection and working like a slave in the hopes of making something better than what they had back home. I know it's not always like this but still..

I'm very 50/50 on that visa it could be good but.. there are others that need something more than we do! It's nice to try and maybe legalize the "illegal irish" but what about the "illegal" everyone else?

How old is this bloke you read about? I'm hardly an expert, but isn't the current 20-something generation of Irish the first where large numbers didn't have to emigrate to US/UK/OZ?

[rebeccajo 14]

How old is this bloke you read about? I'm hardly an expert, but isn't the current 20-something generation of Irish the first where large numbers didn't have to emigrate to US/UK/OZ?

What do you mean, 'have' to emigrate?

[jundp 191]

When I was younger, all my nightmares involved ghosts in white sheets. Like Casper.

Now, my nightmares all involve menacing looking brown people :o

You were afraid of the KKK? Weird.

This would be an awesome chance to work in Ireland, which I've wanted to do via Rhodes Exchange for a while now. Can't do any of that now until P gets his US Citizenship...if he does.