No consensus on who was behind Sept 11 (global poll)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I certainly don't think the plan was "cooked up" as in deliberately orchestrated by the Govt. But I certainly think the 9/11 tragedy was exploited to sell "unfinished" and "unconnected" business to the public (like Iraq).

Edited September 11, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[akdiver 3]

"Cooked up by the Bush Administration"? So you believe Bush ordered the mass-murder of 3000 American citizens? If I believed that, I would be calling for, first, Bush's impeachment, and second, his execution.

Absolutely. 3000 people is really nothing as far as these things go. Aside from that - take Lincoln. As a result of his (unconstitutional) orders waging war against Americans, more than a half million people died and the constitution was irrevocably shattered. Look at what we did during WWII. Rounded up more than 7000 citizens, forced them to leave their homes, abandoned their possessions, and locked them up without due process and without any kind of reasonable suspicion of wrong doing, let alone evidence of any kind. Edited September 11, 2008 by akdiver

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

Whether Bush concieved of the 9/11 attacks or not, far more Americans than those killed on the day have died in it's name. In Iraq. A war that WAS cooked up by the Bush Administration based on nothing at all. So to say that Bush would callously order the deaths of thousands of Americans, American troops even, is factually correct.

[almaty 19]

i am sure the world does not trust Bush....and why should they.,.he has repeatedly proved to all..that he is a boldface lying chopf##k...

[thetreble 19]

I certainly don't think the plan was "cooked up" as in deliberately orchestrated by the Govt. But I certainly think the 9/11 tragedy was exploited to sell "unfinished" and "unconnected" business to the public (like Iraq).

yep

[sara..... 371]

I certainly don't think the plan was "cooked up" as in deliberately orchestrated by the Govt. But I certainly think the 9/11 tragedy was exploited to sell "unfinished" and "unconnected" business to the public (like Iraq).

yep

I think that some how bush was involved.........if u will remember our country was split even after he was appointed pres.........we were a divided country even given the fact that he was appointed by a court i think some how the issue of who really won the race that year would not have been dropped what better way to get the people of our great country to pull together as one? than what was done.....there are just tooooo many unanswered questions for me to make a decision for myself based on the information out there as to who in fact all the players were in this terrible attack on our great nation..........also gave bush the ability to go into iraq or any other country he wanted to............i dont think our country is ready for all the unanswered questions do u?

[thetreble 19]

Well first of all it is not my country; I am just a mere resident here. I am still very involved with my own nation and how it deals with things. I can't vote so I am really not interested in these 2 year political campaigns or conspiracy theories on how the Bush Administration conjured up a mass murder of their own citizens so that we could start a war with Iraq. The war with Iraq was long coming and would have happened eventually any ways as little Bush tried to carry out poppa Bush's legacy.

All I know is, living close to the the towers, taking a lot of rides through ground zero on the Path train from Jersey, how do we deal with the here and now. I can see NYC from my parking lot at work. I know people who have lost family members. Their grief has nothing to do with who was behind everything. Their grief is dealing with the loss of a child or sibling, parent,friend, etc. and how can we bring about change. Dealing with conspiracy theories is not going to actually DO anything.

Any ways, that is my two cents. Thanks.

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

A life is a life. All equal. The events of 9/11 were tragic, but think should not have been deemed to warrent the horrific war costing many hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's, and more American troops than died in the towers in the first place. 9/11 was tragic, what has followed is mass murder also.

[alienlovechild 75]

The poll doesn't surprise me even after 7 years of BS being spewed out about 9/11 and the events afterward. Even almost nothing is mentioned about preceding events as if they never happened.

Whether Bush concieved of the 9/11 attacks or not, far more Americans than those killed on the day have died in it's name. In Iraq. A war that WAS cooked up by the Bush Administration based on nothing at all. So to say that Bush would callously order the deaths of thousands of Americans, American troops even, is factually correct.

Ok, where's the quote where Bush sez "Saddam caused 9/11"?

How were all the major intelligence agencies wrong, Saddam's own generals, the U.S. military, the UN inspectors fooled by Bush as an evil genius? (Usually this where Cheney comes in a la Darth Vader)

Why were there sanctions placed on Iraq for 13 years (8 under Clinton) prior to the U.S. invasion?

Why didn't Saddam allow UN inspections unimpeded access like Ukraine and South Africa did for WMD destruction?

Wouldn't it be billions of dollars cheaper just keep Saddam in power and get the oil that way? (ie the corrupt oil for food program)

The reality is Iraq was a pain in the ### and "smart sanctions" were failing and it looked like Saddam would get away with doing as he pleased. The idea was he could pass off his stockpiles (which were never fully accounted for) to nasty terrorists but at the same time Bush could appear to be doing something and eliminating a U.S. foe at the same time. There's a case for saying into Iraq was a strategic mistake but leaving Iran in charge of the region with Obama's blessing wouldn't be too smart either.

If we must get hit with another major terrorist strike or a big international crisis again I hope Pres. Obama makes sound decisions because if he doesn't he is going to be beaten to a pulp by critics so either way is a positive outcome to me.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I certainly don't think the plan was "cooked up" as in deliberately orchestrated by the Govt. But I certainly think the 9/11 tragedy was exploited to sell "unfinished" and "unconnected" business to the public (like Iraq).

agreed

But 9/11 needs to be remembered and discussed. Look at the holocaust. There are plenty of ignorant chopf#cks that deny it even happened. I'd bet many of those say 9/11 was executed by Bush or the Jews, not by Islamic terrorists.

[akdiver 3]

Dealing with conspiracy theories is not going to actually DO anything.

Those who do not remember and learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

If you think that learning the truth of a matter is unimportant simply because the lost have been lost - well, geez, that's about as naive and head stuck in the ground as it gets.

Edited September 11, 2008 by akdiver

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I certainly don't think the plan was "cooked up" as in deliberately orchestrated by the Govt. But I certainly think the 9/11 tragedy was exploited to sell "unfinished" and "unconnected" business to the public (like Iraq).

agreed

But 9/11 needs to be remembered and discussed. Look at the holocaust. There are plenty of ignorant chopf#cks that deny it even happened. I'd bet many of those say 9/11 was executed by Bush or the Jews, not by Islamic terrorists.

I certainly agree with you there. The conspiracy theories are surprisingly prevalent even today.

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