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Comic draws charges of racism

Customers ask Wal-Mart stores to remove book

By LESLIE CASIMIR

2008 Houston Chronicle

Beloved by Mexicans for his dim wits, street smarts and playful disposition, long-running comic book character Memín Pinguín — a little black boy whose face resembles a monkey — is at it again.

His zany adventures chronicled in a hugely popular book series for decades are up for sale at your neighborhood Wal-Mart store in the Libros en Español section, right next to the store's cadre of African-American books.

The latest issue: Memín para presidente.

By Shawnedria McGinty's American standards, the image was shocking. The African-American woman who was shopping at the store on South Post Oak over the weekend immediately asked a store manager to remove the books from the shelves. A manager told her he would comply.

"I said, wait a minute: Is this a monkey or a little black boy?" said McGinty, 34, of Meyerland. "I was so upset. This is 2008."

But as of Monday afternoon, the books were still on the shelves at many Houston stores, prompting community activist Quanell X to demand that Wal-Mart apologize for selling the racially charged books.

"Even Hispanics of conscious minds sense this is racist and that to sell this is totally unacceptable," said Quanell X, who spoke in front of the Wal-Mart on South Post Oak and demanded officials issue an apology. "It is a disgrace — it's an insult to all African-Americans."

Quanell X, who was contacted by McGinty, requested a meeting with regional Wal-Mart officials.

A Wal-Mart spokesman said the books were removed late Monday at the Meyerland location, but would not say if the comic books would be pulled at other Houston locations. A Houston Chronicle reporter bought three Memín comic books for $7.44 each at another Wal-Mart on Dunvale.

"We will be evaluating the best course of action," said Phillip Keene, a company spokesman.

Memín is no stranger to controversy. In 2005, the Mexican postal service released a series of new stamps commemorating the comic book character, who debuted in the 1940s. The stamps sold out quickly, but the debate endured and swirled between the U.S. White House and the Mexican White House.

To some in America, Memín's stereotypical image of exaggerated lips and ape-like characteristics represents a racist period in the nation's history when black-face characters were popular.

The stamps were deemed offensive by President Bush and a number of American leaders, including civil rights icon Jesse Jackson. Former Mexican President Vicente Fox said he didn't understand what all the fuss was about and insisted that Memín's image was not racist, but a beloved character embraced by all Mexicans.

"When you read the stories, he's always the hero — he saves the day," said Raul Ramos, professor of Mexican-American history at the University of Houston, who added that the racial dynamics in Mexico — where stereotypical "Sambo" characters do not exist — are far more complex than in the U.S. "He's kind of the Charlie Chaplin figure, the rascal who is able to overcome the difficult situations. So he's a very populist character in that way."

Omar G., 45, who was shopping at the Meyerland Wal-Mart with his four American-born children, said he did not want his children to read it.

"I grew up reading the comic book as a kid in Mexico, but for here, it is offensive for some people," said Omar, who did not want his last name published. "To see it here in Wal-Mart, I am surprised."

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oh lord.. why did they bring that comic here... PC police is gonna freak...

the comic was really nice, my mom used to read it to me when I was little

El Presidente of VJ

regalame una sonrisita con sabor a viento

tu eres mi vitamina del pecho mi fibra

tu eres todo lo que me equilibra,

un balance, lo que me conplementa

un masajito con sabor a menta,

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oh lord.. why did they bring that comic here... PC police is gonna freak...

the comic was really nice, my mom used to read it to me when I was little

:lol: I had a golliwog when I was a kid. I can only imagine the furore if Walmart were to sell those...

oh lord.. why did they bring that comic here... PC police is gonna freak...

the comic was really nice, my mom used to read it to me when I was little

Do I take it that the reaction is about the imagery of the character, rather than the content of the stories?

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yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

oh lord.. why did they bring that comic here... PC police is gonna freak...

the comic was really nice, my mom used to read it to me when I was little

:lol: I had a golliwog when I was a kid. I can only imagine the furore if Walmart were to sell those...

oh lord.. why did they bring that comic here... PC police is gonna freak...

the comic was really nice, my mom used to read it to me when I was little

Do I take it that the reaction is about the imagery of the character, rather than the content of the stories?

El Presidente of VJ

regalame una sonrisita con sabor a viento

tu eres mi vitamina del pecho mi fibra

tu eres todo lo que me equilibra,

un balance, lo que me conplementa

un masajito con sabor a menta,

Deutsch: Du machst das richtig

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yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

a mouse vs a person ?

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The Golliwog was in English children's literature for nearly 100 years...

yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

a mouse vs a person ?

Person or no - it is a cartoon character that reflects obvious stereotypes of Mexican people.

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good point brother 6....

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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The Golliwog was in English children's literature for nearly 100 years...

yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

a mouse vs a person ?

Person or no - it is a cartoon character that reflects obvious stereotypes of Mexican people.

sambo ... a once common slave name

speedy gonzales ... a fast mouse named gonzales who got the girls and saved the day

speedy is not the one in the cartoon to be upset about. the depiction of the other characters (lazy, womanizing, drinking mice) should be of more concern.

Visit Speedy Gonzales. The League of United Latin American Citizens has an interesting POV about the "stereotype" for which you're concerned.

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but in the comic the character doesn't act as a Sambo, despite the way he's drawn..

and I agree, it's not speedy himself, but his amigos, who are stereotipically depicted

El Presidente of VJ

regalame una sonrisita con sabor a viento

tu eres mi vitamina del pecho mi fibra

tu eres todo lo que me equilibra,

un balance, lo que me conplementa

un masajito con sabor a menta,

Deutsch: Du machst das richtig

Wohnen Heute

3678632315_87c29a1112_m.jpgdancing-bear.gif

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The Golliwog was in English children's literature for nearly 100 years...

yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

a mouse vs a person ?

Person or no - it is a cartoon character that reflects obvious stereotypes of Mexican people.

sambo ... a once common slave name

speedy gonzales ... a fast mouse named gonzales who got the girls and saved the day

speedy is not the one in the cartoon to be upset about. the depiction of the other characters (lazy, womanizing, drinking mice) should be of more concern.

Visit Speedy Gonzales. The League of United Latin American Citizens has an interesting POV about the "stereotype" for which you're concerned.

I'm not concerned about it - I'm just pointing out what is clearly obvious. As I say though - I'm less bothered by imagery than if the general portrayal is negative.

You need only look at some of the old 50's Hollywood westerns to see that - where Native Americans were almost always made out to be the villains.

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yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

sure was a problem with the frito bandito though...... :whistle:

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The Golliwog was in English children's literature for nearly 100 years...

yes,, as the article says, we don't have a 'sambo' character in Mexico, nor the derogatory connotation of it.. Memin Pinguin (his name) is a rogueish street smart character, but always with a morale at the end of the story, promoting good values and such..

I agree that nowadays and specially in the US, it's not a good idea, but fukc.. people don't see a problem with speedy gonzalez, I don't see a problem with Memin Pinguin either..

a mouse vs a person ?

Person or no - it is a cartoon character that reflects obvious stereotypes of Mexican people.

sambo ... a once common slave name

speedy gonzales ... a fast mouse named gonzales who got the girls and saved the day

speedy is not the one in the cartoon to be upset about. the depiction of the other characters (lazy, womanizing, drinking mice) should be of more concern.

Visit Speedy Gonzales. The League of United Latin American Citizens has an interesting POV about the "stereotype" for which you're concerned.

I'm not concerned about it - I'm just pointing out what is clearly obvious. As I say though - I'm less bothered by imagery than if the general portrayal is negative.

You need only look at some of the old 50's Hollywood westerns to see that - where Native Americans were almost always made out to be the villains.

Person or no - it is a cartoon character that reflects obvious stereotypes of Mexican people.

Obvious stereotype ... "Speedy's cleverness and energetic personality was a positive depiction of Mexicans" Speedy Gonzales

 

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