McCain predicts Iraq war over by 2013

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

That's all? Please.

This thread is getting tired anyways.

This thread is getting tired? This topic has been discussed to death on here over the last 5 years.

The chestbeating is rather tiresome.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

That's all? Please.

This thread is getting tired anyways.

This thread is getting tired? This topic has been discussed to death on here over the last 5 years.

The chestbeating is rather tiresome.

grumble rumble. (prepares best Tarzan) yeah Aaaaooufff (out of air):tazanbeatingchestsmilie: GAME OVER KO

[GaryC 7]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

Yeah I know, WW2 has no lessons to teach us at all. Lets just forget it happened.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

Yeah I know, WW2 has no lessons to teach us at all. Lets just forget it happened.

If anything it should teach us the dangers of making outrageous, silly and irrelevant comparisons.

Don't you get tired of Hitler, Stalin and Che Guevara being trotted out to describe what are essentially mainstream career politicians?

In short, any discussion of this topic would benefit by cutting out the melodrama.

[GaryC 7]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

Yeah I know, WW2 has no lessons to teach us at all. Lets just forget it happened.

If anything it should teach us the dangers of making outrageous, silly and irrelevant comparisons.

Don't you get tired of Hitler, Stalin and Che Guevara being trotted out to describe what are essentially mainstream career politicians?

In short, any discussion of this topic would benefit by cutting out the melodrama.

The comparisons were not silly, outrageous or irrelevant. They are a direct lesson that can be applied to today. And no, I am not tired of the tyrants being trotted out. They serve as a reminder of what happens when we seek to appease rather than win.

[HAL 9000 96]

HUH?

If it was victory, according to the analogies of power, then all you have to do is drop a nuke or two in the Middle East. Problem solved ironically.

Anyway, this is running on empty on the latest excuse of several that have been shown rather easily to have been unrelated to anything postured in reality, save perhaps the truth that a lie is a lie and Americans are not stupid enough to swallow Bush's lies anymore.

In my opinion any withdrawal from Iraq will not be an overnight event, and Iraquis will have the power to either shape up their democracy or hand it back to the Baath Party as it was before the Illegal war even started. As we are shifting our focus from military occupation to diplomatic support to ally nation. Then again, that is just my opinion and perhaps Gary is completely right in thinking that Obama will do exactly as the Republicans say he will, beyond anything Obama has actually said, which again, is more political BS during a campaign cycle.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

Yeah I know, WW2 has no lessons to teach us at all. Lets just forget it happened.

If anything it should teach us the dangers of making outrageous, silly and irrelevant comparisons.

Don't you get tired of Hitler, Stalin and Che Guevara being trotted out to describe what are essentially mainstream career politicians?

In short, any discussion of this topic would benefit by cutting out the melodrama.

The comparisons were not silly, outrageous or irrelevant. They are a direct lesson that can be applied to today. And no, I am not tired of the tyrants being trotted out. They serve as a reminder of what happens when we seek to appease rather than win.

A direct lesson - how exactly...? The political dimensions here are totally different.

I remember the old chestnut about Saddam being a comparable threat to Hitler being trotted out not so long ago. The uncharismatic leader of a minority secular/communist party in the middle of a region dominated by the ultra-religious. Yep that totally sounds the same, doesn't it...

[GaryC 7]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

Yeah I know, WW2 has no lessons to teach us at all. Lets just forget it happened.

If anything it should teach us the dangers of making outrageous, silly and irrelevant comparisons.

Don't you get tired of Hitler, Stalin and Che Guevara being trotted out to describe what are essentially mainstream career politicians?

In short, any discussion of this topic would benefit by cutting out the melodrama.

The comparisons were not silly, outrageous or irrelevant. They are a direct lesson that can be applied to today. And no, I am not tired of the tyrants being trotted out. They serve as a reminder of what happens when we seek to appease rather than win.

A direct lesson - how exactly...? The political dimensions here are totally different.

I remember the old chestnut about Saddam being a comparable threat to Hitler being trotted out not so long ago. The uncharismatic leader of a minority secular/communist party in the middle of a region dominated by the ultra-religious. Yep that totally sounds the same, doesn't it...

If your not clever enough to see the similarities then I don't know what to tell you.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

HUH?

If it was victory, according to the analogies of power, then all you have to do is drop a nuke or two in the Middle East. Problem solved ironically.

Anyway, this is running on empty on the latest excuse of several that have been shown rather easily to have been unrelated to anything postured in reality, save perhaps the truth that a lie is a lie and Americans are not stupid enough to swallow Bush's lies anymore.

In my opinion any withdrawal from Iraq will not be an overnight event, and Iraquis will have the power to either shape up their democracy or hand it back to the Baath Party as it was before the Illegal war even started. As we are shifting our focus from military occupation to diplomatic support to ally nation. Then again, that is just my opinion and perhaps Gary is completely right in thinking that Obama will do exactly as the Republicans say he will, beyond anything Obama has actually said, which again, is more political BS during a campaign cycle.

i don't recall germany being defeated by a nuke

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Great - the WW2 comparison gets wheeled out again.

How "B" Movie can you get.

Yeah I know, WW2 has no lessons to teach us at all. Lets just forget it happened.

If anything it should teach us the dangers of making outrageous, silly and irrelevant comparisons.

Don't you get tired of Hitler, Stalin and Che Guevara being trotted out to describe what are essentially mainstream career politicians?

In short, any discussion of this topic would benefit by cutting out the melodrama.

The comparisons were not silly, outrageous or irrelevant. They are a direct lesson that can be applied to today. And no, I am not tired of the tyrants being trotted out. They serve as a reminder of what happens when we seek to appease rather than win.

A direct lesson - how exactly...? The political dimensions here are totally different.

I remember the old chestnut about Saddam being a comparable threat to Hitler being trotted out not so long ago. The uncharismatic leader of a minority secular/communist party in the middle of a region dominated by the ultra-religious. Yep that totally sounds the same, doesn't it...

If your not clever enough to see the similarities then I don't know what to tell you.

Similarities so general as to be worthless in this specific context - other than as a means of chestbeating the righteousness of this particular cause, of course.

I get why you're doing it - I just don't agree with it.

[HAL 9000 96]

HUH?

If it was victory, according to the analogies of power, then all you have to do is drop a nuke or two in the Middle East. Problem solved ironically.

Anyway, this is running on empty on the latest excuse of several that have been shown rather easily to have been unrelated to anything postured in reality, save perhaps the truth that a lie is a lie and Americans are not stupid enough to swallow Bush's lies anymore.

In my opinion any withdrawal from Iraq will not be an overnight event, and Iraquis will have the power to either shape up their democracy or hand it back to the Baath Party as it was before the Illegal war even started. As we are shifting our focus from military occupation to diplomatic support to ally nation. Then again, that is just my opinion and perhaps Gary is completely right in thinking that Obama will do exactly as the Republicans say he will, beyond anything Obama has actually said, which again, is more political BS during a campaign cycle.

i don't recall germany being defeated by a nuke

Ask the Japanese.

[Ban Hammer 12,842]

HUH?

If it was victory, according to the analogies of power, then all you have to do is drop a nuke or two in the Middle East. Problem solved ironically.

Anyway, this is running on empty on the latest excuse of several that have been shown rather easily to have been unrelated to anything postured in reality, save perhaps the truth that a lie is a lie and Americans are not stupid enough to swallow Bush's lies anymore.

In my opinion any withdrawal from Iraq will not be an overnight event, and Iraquis will have the power to either shape up their democracy or hand it back to the Baath Party as it was before the Illegal war even started. As we are shifting our focus from military occupation to diplomatic support to ally nation. Then again, that is just my opinion and perhaps Gary is completely right in thinking that Obama will do exactly as the Republicans say he will, beyond anything Obama has actually said, which again, is more political BS during a campaign cycle.

i don't recall germany being defeated by a nuke

Ask the Japanese.

obviously, but they were just one of 3 in that fiasco.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

We should have just minded our own business when Hitler invaded.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

We should have just minded our own business when Hitler invaded.

I'm sure you would have.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

We should have just minded our own business when Hitler invaded.

I'm sure you would have.

That would be correct if I had the forethought you were on the way.