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TBoneTX Grand Master

TBoneTX   48,130

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Dunno how you can take exception w/ someone using the word piss...but there you go. :blink:

Vulgarity versus profanity. Dangerous to use any vulgarity-or-more when arguing with someone here; it's quite another matter (meaning quite appropriate) to use it when referring to USCIS, though! :)

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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rebeccajo Grand Master

rebeccajo   14

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Dunno how you can take exception w/ someone using the word piss...but there you go. :blink:

Vulgarity versus profanity. Dangerous to use any vulgarity-or-more when arguing with someone here; it's quite another matter (meaning quite appropriate) to use it when referring to USCIS, though! :)

As I said, I wasn't even vulgar.

The unfortunate mistake is thinking this was an 'argument' on my part. It was not.

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TBoneTX   48,130

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As I said, I wasn't even vulgar.

The unfortunate mistake is thinking this was an 'argument' on my part. It was not.

"An exchanging of ideas."

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

sara..... Mentor

sara.....   371

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WOW two great days in a row yesterday was the best day i have had in a long time cuz of the touch and im sure that was from my call........and low and behold i looked again after returning from class and i was touched again today.....i dont know if this will work to get an approval but it sure is giving me something to smile about and i also feel that all of this is going on because of the phone call as my case was only touched once in all the time they had it before yesterday...... :yes: would be a great b.day present to have an approval on that day for us lol

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WOW two great days in a row yesterday was the best day i have had in a long time cuz of the touch and im sure that was from my call........and low and behold i looked again after returning from class and i was touched again today.....i dont know if this will work to get an approval but it sure is giving me something to smile about and i also feel that all of this is going on because of the phone call as my case was only touched once in all the time they had it before yesterday...... :yes: would be a great b.day present to have an approval on that day for us lol

You surely have the prettiest of smiles, Sara! :)

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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rebeccajo   14

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Well, I might be an 'old timer' but - I do have a pending receipt notice (you see, even once the VisaJourney is over, the ImmigrationJourney is not).

At any rate, I decided to give this a whirl by following the prompts in TBone's original post.

I haven't reached the conclusion of my experiment yet (and won't be able to until tomorrow) but I have already learned that attempting this in the hopes of reaching an Immigration Officer will not work unless you try during normal business hours. My call was directed to the Information Line.

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Minya's wife   25

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Well, I might be an 'old timer' but - I do have a pending receipt notice (you see, even once the VisaJourney is over, the ImmigrationJourney is not).

At any rate, I decided to give this a whirl by following the prompts in TBone's original post.

I haven't reached the conclusion of my experiment yet (and won't be able to until tomorrow) but I have already learned that attempting this in the hopes of reaching an Immigration Officer will not work unless you try during normal business hours. My call was directed to the Information Line.

;):thumbs:

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TBoneTX Grand Master

TBoneTX   48,130

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I have already learned that attempting this in the hopes of reaching an Immigration Officer will not work unless you try during normal business hours. My call was directed to the Information Line.

That's helpful to know, RJ -- I never tried at any other time, so it didn't occur to me that time could be a factor.

Everyone: If interested, see the thread "I-129F June Filers" for the response letter that I got (on 24-hour turnaround) from the Guayaquil consulate.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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THIS TIPS WERE GREAT. I CALLED TODAY EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID AND I SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER. THEY SAID THAT AT THE MOMENT THEY ARE REVIEWING OUR K-1 VISA. AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE A RESPONSE PROBABBLY AT THE END OF MARCH.

MABEL AND ME ARE A LITTLE MORE EXITED BECAUSE THE WEBSITE DOES NOT SAY THAT OR THE MESSAGES AT THE 1-800 NUMBER. SO NOW WE GET A RESPONSE.

THANK YOU FOR GREAT INFORMATION.

AND HOPEFULLY IT IS ALL POSITIVE FOR ME AND EVERYONE ELSE.

CARLOS Y MABEL

sara..... Mentor

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THIS TIPS WERE GREAT. I CALLED TODAY EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID AND I SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER. THEY SAID THAT AT THE MOMENT THEY ARE REVIEWING OUR K-1 VISA. AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE A RESPONSE PROBABBLY AT THE END OF MARCH.

MABEL AND ME ARE A LITTLE MORE EXITED BECAUSE THE WEBSITE DOES NOT SAY THAT OR THE MESSAGES AT THE 1-800 NUMBER. SO NOW WE GET A RESPONSE.

THANK YOU FOR GREAT INFORMATION.

AND HOPEFULLY IT IS ALL POSITIVE FOR ME AND EVERYONE ELSE.

CARLOS Y MABEL

Thats wonderful......... :) :)

TBoneTX Grand Master

TBoneTX   48,130

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THIS TIPS WERE GREAT. I CALLED TODAY EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID AND I SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER. THEY SAID THAT AT THE MOMENT THEY ARE REVIEWING OUR K-1 VISA. AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE A RESPONSE PROBABBLY AT THE END OF MARCH.

MABEL AND ME ARE A LITTLE MORE EXITED BECAUSE THE WEBSITE DOES NOT SAY THAT OR THE MESSAGES AT THE 1-800 NUMBER. SO NOW WE GET A RESPONSE.

THANK YOU FOR GREAT INFORMATION.

AND HOPEFULLY IT IS ALL POSITIVE FOR ME AND EVERYONE ELSE.

CARLOS Y MABEL

Muy bueno, Carlos! You might want to call again in earlier March just to learn exactly where your file is, and to find out if someone can carry it from its current place to the next station. By the way, I looked at your fotos, and you and Mabel are guapo/guapa together!

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

TBoneTX Grand Master

TBoneTX   48,130

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Eagerly awaiting your report, Rebeccajo. :)

I'm working all day today and I left my freaking I797 at home. It'll have to wait till tomorrow. Sorry.

Meanwhile, we can eagerly await others who might try. It will be interesting to learn if the approach works for both CSC and VSC (I'm guessing so), and for any case (I-797s, etc.) that an Immigration Officer could provide an answer on (not just K-1s).

Mox, what data points would it be valuable/valid to measure? For discussion purposes, I suggest these: [1] Whether the caller successfully reached an actual ImmigOff (not just a contracted screener); [2] Caller's evaluation of whether the information provided was helpful; [3] Caller's self-evaluation of his/her own satisfaction (e.g., "feeling much better now") after completing the exercise; and [4] Measurement of the number of days after the first (second, third...) such call before NOA2 (or non-K1 fulfillment) is granted (this could be deduced by the promptness or number of touches after the call).

I am not an engineer or statistician, so it's unclear how to most effectively evaluate the subjective reports or how to adjust for variables, margins of error, etc., because people will not all be performing the exercise on the same time frame or even using the exact script (because not everyone's timeline or situation would be the same).

As a test of what to look for and how, we could use those who have reported so far -- me, you if you're sure that you reached an actual ImmigOff, John & Maria from the "Waiting for an NOA2" thread, estadia, CarlosYMabel, and anyone else. Your thoughts, si man? Thoughts from others, si men?

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I tried the tips and got some info. I filed for 1-129F in August and hadn't heard anything...called yesterday and they said my case had not been assigned to an officer yet??????????? That kinda pissed me off but I was very polite to the lady on the phone. After I got off the phone I checked my case status and it there was a touch on my case and again another touch today Feb 21st!!! I hope this is a good sign?? Any thoughts????

AOS

Sent package - 3 Nov 11

NOA 1 - 18 Nov 11

NOA 2 - 23 Apr 11

sara..... Mentor

sara.....   371

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I tried the tips and got some info. I filed for 1-129F in August and hadn't heard anything...called yesterday and they said my case had not been assigned to an officer yet??????????? That kinda pissed me off but I was very polite to the lady on the phone. After I got off the phone I checked my case status and it there was a touch on my case and again another touch today Feb 21st!!! I hope this is a good sign?? Any thoughts????

I got two touches also after calling and we also filed in aug but we got our noa1 in sept 24th......im feeling pretty good about it i mean is more than i had before..........

 
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