Another illegal immigrant takes sanctuary at Chicago church

[Peikko 1,575]

Of course there is corruption in the Catholic church. However, I am not sure how this relates to providing succour to an illegal immigrant.

I am not a christian, but if one purports to be one, one should at least stand by certain core principles. Providing succour to one and all is surely one of the main tenets of their creed, no?

Edited January 28, 2008 by Purple_Hibiscus

[no name 1]

Of course there is corruption in the Catholic church. However, I am not sure how this relates to providing succour to an illegal immigrant.

I am not a christian, but if one purports to be one, one should at least stand by certain core principles. Providing succour to one and all is surely one of the main tenets of their creed, no?

Why are you continuing to make assumptions about the(Catholic) church instead of waiting for 'a member of the church will enlighten us'?

Edited January 28, 2008 by devilette

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

Of course there is corruption in the Catholic church. However, I am not sure how this relates to providing succour to an illegal immigrant.

I am not a christian, but if one purports to be one, one should at least stand by certain core principles. Providing succour to one and all is surely one of the main tenets of their creed, no?

Not really. That was added on by the church.

[Peikko 1,575]

The only question here is how exactly the catholic church views illegal immigrants. The fact that christian clergy (including catholic ones) are required to minister to criminals and sinners is not an assumption.

[no name 1]

The only question here is how exactly the catholic church views illegal immigrants. The fact that christian clergy (including catholic ones) are required to minister to criminals and sinners is not an assumption.

They are required to report crimes as well. But I guess you don't care to know the truth about the church when you can continue to assume things.

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I thought part about being a Cristian was about being good to fellow human beings. Correct me if I'm wrong there. This includes the Catholic Church.

[Peikko 1,575]

Well, it's a long time ago, but I understood that Jesus provided succour to all sinners, including those who broke man made laws, and that the ministry of the church was to continue to do so.

[HAL 9000 96]

The only question here is how exactly the catholic church views illegal immigrants. The fact that christian clergy (including catholic ones) are required to minister to criminals and sinners is not an assumption.

They are required to report crimes as well. But I guess you don't care to know the truth about the church when you can continue to assume things.

Not always true. When it comes into the domain of the Church, doctrine takes precedence to secular law within the confines of the hallowed ground.

[no name 1]

The only question here is how exactly the catholic church views illegal immigrants. The fact that christian clergy (including catholic ones) are required to minister to criminals and sinners is not an assumption.

They are required to report crimes as well. But I guess you don't care to know the truth about the church when you can continue to assume things.

Not always true. When it comes into the domain of the Church, doctrine takes precedence to secular law within the confines of the hallowed ground.

Not what I was taught about what happens during confessions.

[HAL 9000 96]

The only question here is how exactly the catholic church views illegal immigrants. The fact that christian clergy (including catholic ones) are required to minister to criminals and sinners is not an assumption.

They are required to report crimes as well. But I guess you don't care to know the truth about the church when you can continue to assume things.

Not always true. When it comes into the domain of the Church, doctrine takes precedence to secular law within the confines of the hallowed ground.

Not what I was taught about what happens during confessions.

Brother in law is a priest-to-be in SSPX. You can't get any more classically Catholic than that...

[no name 1]

The only question here is how exactly the catholic church views illegal immigrants. The fact that christian clergy (including catholic ones) are required to minister to criminals and sinners is not an assumption.

They are required to report crimes as well. But I guess you don't care to know the truth about the church when you can continue to assume things.

Not always true. When it comes into the domain of the Church, doctrine takes precedence to secular law within the confines of the hallowed ground.

Not what I was taught about what happens during confessions.

Brother in law is a priest-to-be in SSPX. You can't get any more classically Catholic than that...

In what country?

[Peikko 1,575]

Well, I have greater knowledge of anglicans and ministers are under no obligation to tell anyone anything which was disclosed during confession, except in cases of child sex abuse.

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I see your logic...

The seminary is in Buenos Aires.

He's already taken the course they have that covers church doctrine when it conflicts with secular law, and I believe it is universal.

I'll try to check with him soon.

[HAL 9000 96]

Well, I have greater knowledge of anglicans and ministers are under no obligation to tell anyone anything which was disclosed during confession, except in cases of child sex abuse.

There are the obvious cases where the priest/minister is probably asked to make a moral judgment in agreement with church beliefs. Maybe that's why they accept sanctuary in the first place and have placed human interests before secular law.

[no name 1]

I'm working my way through this:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11618c.htm