New processing times - is the USCIS lying?

[burs 0]

believe it or not, the nazi thing was a joke... probably should've put a smiley face next to the sentence. whatever. my opinion is the same - before going around calling folks selfish, find out their individual situations (if you are up to it). i've already talked about it, but in summary, my wife is having trouble finding a new job because hr folks in many companies are not convinced that an expired greencard with an extension letter is proof of permanent residence. also, try applying for a tourist visa at a french consulate general with the expired greencard/extension letter. finally, why did i pay for the darn i-751 in the first place if it looks like it's going to be adjudicated automatically when my wife applies for citizenship.

Edited February 12, 2008 by burs

[burs 0]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect. sure our loved ones are with us, but the dollars we spent on the I-751 to processed on time - aren't. believe it or not, these dollars are pretty scarce for some people and wasting them like this is... well if not comparable to not being with your spouse, then comparable to being without a meal. all i am trying to say - calling someone selfish for being frustrated isn't cool.

This is excatly what I am talking about... totally and completely inappropriate.... what if I told you that some my relatives were killed by that regime because they tried to defend the oppressed... how would you feel then... unbelieveable

I have had it...

don't be upset, zyggy. i seriously meant it as a joke. if it makes you feel any better, you are not the first person who found me unbelieveable. my wife thinks so too. that's why she married me (another joke, smile).

[2long 0]

zyggy, i have always been facinated by the picture next to your nickname? is it young hitler or something? anyhow, folks are frustrated and calling them selfish is rhetoric deserving of national socialists in some respect. sure our loved ones are with us, but the dollars we spent on the I-751 to processed on time - aren't. believe it or not, these dollars are pretty scarce for some people and wasting them like this is... well if not comparable to not being with your spouse, then comparable to being without a meal. all i am trying to say - calling someone selfish for being frustrated isn't cool.

This is excatly what I am talking about... totally and completely inappropriate.... what if I told you that some my relatives were killed by that regime because they tried to defend the oppressed... how would you feel then... unbelieveable

I have had it...

don't be upset, zyggy. i seriously meant it as a joke. if it makes you feel any better, you are not the first person who found me unbelieveable. my wife thinks so too. that's why she married me (another joke, smile).

You all have a lot of patience,I already gave up that USCIS will process our !-751.They Probably are waiting for us to apply for citizen.SO that they can kill two birds(I-751 and N-400) with one stone.I know It is wrong whatever USCIs doing with our I-751 but in the situation that USCIS is right now they cannot make everybody happy.I'll still consider them smart If they Process our N-400 on priority

[Captain Ewok 1,859]

Guys please stop the bickering and personal attacks. Thank you.

[initialsusa 0]

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List of I-751 to NSC after the last known approval in 2007 (NOA 06-Dec-06) and before the first known transfer to CSC (29-Jun-07)

UserName...........Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.....Biometrics......Approved.....RFE, Service Request, etc.

onur ............. 06/26/06..........03/15/07........04/13/07........--/--/-- NCS

haozi101...........11/27/06..........12/06/06......01/03/07........09/14/07.....

Bertrand...........12/19/06..........12/27/06......01/20/07........01/29/08.....N-400

sandeepb...........12/26/06..........01/04/07......02/05/07........--/--/--.....service request, N-400

coloradogirl.......12/27/06..........01/04/07......01/30/07........--/--/--.....

echostorm..........12/--/06..........01/05/07......02/16/07........--/--/--.....

CAPG...............01/06/07..........01/16/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....

drawbridgep........01/11/07..........02/02/07......02/15/07........--/--/--.....

jennybirgitta......01/13/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....service request, congressman, N-400

traversm...........01/14/07..........01/18/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

MDandZJ............01/21/07..........01/25/07......02/14/07........--/--/--.....

dee................01/25/07..........01/29/07......02/20/07........--/--/--.....

chus...............01/26/07..........02/03/07......02/23/07........--/--/--.....

Peter T............01/27/07..........02/01/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....

Illinois77.........01/31/07..........02/02/07......03/02/07........--/--/--.....

ives_damian........01/31/07..........02/06/07......03/12/07........--/--/--.....

winterpassing......02/06/07..........02/12/07......03/09/07........--/--/--.....

Illinois...........02/19/07..........02/23/07......04/18/07........--/--/--.....

ace13..............03/22/07..........03/27/07......04/17/07........--/--/--.....

Lyuba..............--/--/--..........04/17/07......05/07/07........--/--/--.....

Frances............04/02/07..........05/05/07......05/24/07........--/--/--.....

Kearinne...........04/09/07..........04/30/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

gyuwono............04/17/07..........04/20/07......05/18/07........--/--/--.....

charlie & yeng.....4/27/07(resubm.)..05/01/07......06/02/07........--/--/--.....

Badgerbabe.........05/10/07..........05/24/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

Kanadka............05/12/23..........05/23/07......06/11/07........--/--/--.....

debeselizz.........05/24/07..........05/31/07......06/21/07........--/--/--.....

sandy2000..........06/--/07..........06/12/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

laura19angel.......--/--/--..........06/15/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

pkmk...............06/18/07..........07/02/07......07/13/07........--/--/--.....

wifiman............06/29/07..........08/05/07......08/15/07........08/25/07..... NSC > CSC

NSC claimed accomplishments for processing I-751s:

Posting date......Processing timeframe

12/14/07..........02/09/07

01/15/08..........02/10/07

Please check your data for correctness.

[Sister Fracas 5]

I'm frustrated at the USCIS because there seems to be no process in place as to how they go about approving applications, and if like some people state, the I751 isn't important to USCIS because we are in the States with our loved ones already... well, then they shouldn't have the process at all. We should just be able to apply for naturalization at 3 years, or renew our GC after 10 years, or 5 years.

Or why not give the option of removing conditions OR applying for naturalization at 3 years. One decision, one set of paperwork, one fee.... hmmm, right...it's not about offering a service, it's about getting as much money from us as possible.

[MDZJ 0]

I have been wondering about that myself...

My 1 yr extension expires in mid-April. So I plan to make an Infopass appointment in March to get another extension. Will that be too early since my extension hasn't expired yet? Also I notice the I-130 that my hubby filed for me back in Jan 2005 (sent to National Benefits Center) hasn't been approved yet. But how can my I-485 (filed at the same time) get approved. The website indicates the status of I-130 was last updated Sept 30 2007 as being processed. The whole thing seems really weird to me. Will the I-130 status block my I-751 processing? We haven't heard anything from USCIS about whether they need any more things from us for the I-130 and we went to the AOS interview like 2 years ago when my I-485 was approved.

I agreed that USCIS doesn't seem to have any process. The only thing that got my hope up before was I knew two acquaintances who filed I-751 in 2003 got their cases approved within 3-4 months time frame. So I was expecting this to be shorter wait. I am trying not to sound whiny but this is so frustrating...

I'm frustrated at the USCIS because there seems to be no process in place as to how they go about approving applications, and if like some people state, the I751 isn't important to USCIS because we are in the States with our loved ones already... well, then they shouldn't have the process at all. We should just be able to apply for naturalization at 3 years, or renew our GC after 10 years, or 5 years.

Or why not give the option of removing conditions OR applying for naturalization at 3 years. One decision, one set of paperwork, one fee.... hmmm, right...it's not about offering a service, it's about getting as much money from us as possible.

[iansig40 1]

I am going to speak one last time on this issue because it appears that some of you don't want to hear the truth about what is going on... and that is at your option...

Lily... I have always been fair to you and have tried to provide you with insight on the events in your past in order to help you and others who may have found themselves in your stuation. I find you continued vitriol towards me to be extremely dissapointing and counterproductive. I thought we had moved beyond this childishness.

It is growing number of people like you and iansig who increasingly don't want to hear the truth about what is happening on the inside that has cause me to post less and less here and to share my knowledge and perspective with those who have the desire to learn the reasns for what is going on with their journeyat other places. The fact of the matter is that there is a priority order on how and which petitions are processed and which times based on the differing needs of the service. The fact of that matter is that I-751's are one of the lowest priority petitions, especially at Nebraska which processes a lot of what are considered high priority petitions such as employment petitions and asylum petitions.

It is also a fact that I-751's used to take in excess of two to three years to process until very recently. When I first started my journey, it used to be common knowledge that filing an N-400 was the only way to expedite a I-751 since granting of citizenship is a rather high priority for the service.

What we're going through is a reorganization on how petitions are processed. At the begining of our journey, petitions were adjudicated on a entirely geographic based system. All petitions were processed at a center based on where you lived. In the past 18 months or so, the service has been slowly moving toward a system where centain service centers process certain classes of petitions. For instance, CSC has been moving toward processing all family types of petitions. Which is why in in June or so, family types of peittions such as I-485's, I-129F's and also I-751 have been transferred to CSC. We have been caught in the gap of this transition... It would have been better for NSC to transfer all of our petitions at the same time that started transferring new ones to CSC... but for some odd reason they didn't. They chose to keep them for some reason, but there's nothing we can do about that other than let some people know what is going on. We have written letters to our congressman, our senators, and USCIS ombudsman and the DHS Inspector General, and the chair and ranking members of the Immigration Subcommittees of both Houses of Congress alerting them to the point of the inequity in approval of our types of petitions. Obviously nothing has been done about it yet nor do I expect it to, but at least I said something about it and feel better for doing so.

ANd for information, the reason I have been posting here is because we are in the same boat as all of you. My wife filed her I-751 peititon in April 2007 in Nebraska and we are still waiting and are just as frustrated as the rest of you are. But at least we are together and are living our dream... We for one are more that willing to give up our place in the perceived adjudication line so that those who are still waiting to be with their loved one can finally be together, or can fianlly feel safe for probably the first time in years because they have been granted asylum, or have been granted to chance to start their own American dream by being given approval to get employment in the US. If the rest of you are so selfish to wail about keeping your perceived "first come first served" precious place in line... well, more power to you. But the fact is, you're not going to get what you want and you might as well be resolved to the fact that all the complaining and stomping in the world is not going to change the reality.

That is all I am going to say on this topic... VJ used to be a place where hearing different perspectives and reasoning on immigration topics were welcomed and discussed in a civil and reasonable way. Now it is a place where you either preach to the choir or be shouted down and attacked. It is truly sad...

Well...lets make this clear as I see that some people got quite offended by our arguments related to I-751 processing time and the lousy job USCIS is doing processing these I-751 applications

I came to this country on a K-1 visa from Canada and from the beginning I got stuck with Nebraska ,same old story ,processing time for my first petition around 600 days .I thought that was the worst and everything after will go a lot faster .It didn't happen !

Am I supposed to be happy and pretend that nothing is wrong now that I'm going through the same BS with Nebraska ? I'm sorry but I can pretend that everything is OK and I should wait one year maybe two before someone will bother to discover actually my application laying down God knows where .Lousy job ,plenty of incompetence and mismanaging of the founds received for processing all these applications .

Zyggy- the slogan "first come first served " was not put on the USCIS website by me and if that's a lie then, they should REMOVE it right away ,don't you think so ? Do I have the right to be upset that after 12 months I still don't have any updates ? How much more patience do I need to have ???

There just seems to be a lot of unfairness in the way these applications are processed and just forcing us to dig dipper in our pockets and submit another application for Citizenship I think is totally wrong ,looks more like a money grab not to mention that maybe some of us do not want to become American Citizens ....anything wrong with that ?????

[MDZJ 0]

Since I didn't any reply to my previous post, I went ahead and called USCIS customer service. The lady was polite but didn't seem to have any further information than the website. She told me NOT to worry yet as my case is still within the "NORMAL" processing dates of NSC and I should wait till the posted processing date to be "2/25/08" to call. Then she thought that the cases 30 days ahead of the currently posted 2/10/07 date are being processed. Also she told me my I-130 is still marked pending in the system doesn't affect my other petions. I have no clue why though. This is confusing... But you know what, after dealing with NSC for the past 5 years, I resigned to my fate.

I'm frustrated at the USCIS because there seems to be no process in place as to how they go about approving applications, and if like some people state, the I751 isn't important to USCIS because we are in the States with our loved ones already... well, then they shouldn't have the process at all. We should just be able to apply for naturalization at 3 years, or renew our GC after 10 years, or 5 years.

Or why not give the option of removing conditions OR applying for naturalization at 3 years. One decision, one set of paperwork, one fee.... hmmm, right...it's not about offering a service, it's about getting as much money from us as possible.

[iansig40 1]

Since I didn't any reply to my previous post, I went ahead and called USCIS customer service. The lady was polite but didn't seem to have any further information than the website. She told me NOT to worry yet as my case is still within the "NORMAL" processing dates of NSC and I should wait till the posted processing date to be "2/25/08" to call. Then she thought that the cases 30 days ahead of the currently posted 2/10/07 date are being processed. Also she told me my I-130 is still marked pending in the system doesn't affect my other petions. I have no clue why though. This is confusing... But you know what, after dealing with NSC for the past 5 years, I resigned to my fate.

I'm frustrated at the USCIS because there seems to be no process in place as to how they go about approving applications, and if like some people state, the I751 isn't important to USCIS because we are in the States with our loved ones already... well, then they shouldn't have the process at all. We should just be able to apply for naturalization at 3 years, or renew our GC after 10 years, or 5 years.

Or why not give the option of removing conditions OR applying for naturalization at 3 years. One decision, one set of paperwork, one fee.... hmmm, right...it's not about offering a service, it's about getting as much money from us as possible.

I called them numerous time also but I wasn't able to find anything new and to make the matter even worst the person that I spoke to suggested that I should look on their website for the processing time .WHAT A JOKE !!!!

They must believe that we have no clue at all about what's going on with these processing time updates .

I don't want to sound sarcastic but you can find more informations browsing through the internet from X and Y then from their website and again ......WE PAID $$$$$ for their service

Edited February 15, 2008 by iansig40

[iansig40 1]

Since I didn't any reply to my previous post, I went ahead and called USCIS customer service. The lady was polite but didn't seem to have any further information than the website. She told me NOT to worry yet as my case is still within the "NORMAL" processing dates of NSC and I should wait till the posted processing date to be "2/25/08" to call. Then she thought that the cases 30 days ahead of the currently posted 2/10/07 date are being processed. Also she told me my I-130 is still marked pending in the system doesn't affect my other petions. I have no clue why though. This is confusing... But you know what, after dealing with NSC for the past 5 years, I resigned to my fate.

I'm frustrated at the USCIS because there seems to be no process in place as to how they go about approving applications, and if like some people state, the I751 isn't important to USCIS because we are in the States with our loved ones already... well, then they shouldn't have the process at all. We should just be able to apply for naturalization at 3 years, or renew our GC after 10 years, or 5 years.

Or why not give the option of removing conditions OR applying for naturalization at 3 years. One decision, one set of paperwork, one fee.... hmmm, right...it's not about offering a service, it's about getting as much money from us as possible.

I called them numerous time also but I wasn't able to find anything new and to make the matter even worst the person that I spoke to suggested that I should look on their website for the processing time .WHAT A JOKE !!!!

They must believe that we have no clue at all about what's going on with these processing time updates .

I don't want to sound sarcastic but you can find more informations browsing through the internet from X and Y then from their website and again ......WE PAID $$$$$ for their service

Once again I called USCIS today just to get the same answer "call in 30 days " I totally feel that after these 30 days I will get the same answer so what do you guys think..... Shall we start a law suit against them? Who wants to subscribe?

[drawbridgep 8]

I see a lot of threads about starting a law suit. I'm just curious what the basis of it would be. Did the USCIS guarantee when (and if) an application would be processed? We can't really sue them for taking their sweet time. Can we?

I just feel that even if a hundred of us went up against the USCIS, we would waste years in court and have nothing to show for it other than huge legal bills.

[Peter T 0]

I see a lot of threads about starting a law suit. I'm just curious what the basis of it would be. Did the USCIS guarantee when (and if) an application would be processed? We can't really sue them for taking their sweet time. Can we?

I just feel that even if a hundred of us went up against the USCIS, we would waste years in court and have nothing to show for it other than huge legal bills.

The main criticism of the USCIS seems to be that the USCIS has officially a first-come-first served policy, but that later applications from the second half of 2007with the higher fee were processed long before many applications from the first half of 2007 have even been touched. (If the USCIS had expedited applications, this would be expected, because you could choose your timeline with your price.)

It has been argued that I-751 applicants are in a comfortable position, because they can work and travel. Others have commented that the delayed card means difficulties in getting or keeping some jobs, delays in travelling, and generally an uncertainty about your future. I doubt that anything useful would come out of a lawsuits by I-751 applicants, and I would probably not participate, but I wouldn't advice anyone against it either.

[drawbridgep 8]

Ah, yes, I know that is annoying. I see people who went through NSC after me who now have their 10yr. So the suit is really based on the fact that the USCIS aren't sticking to their own policy. It seems unlikely to be a case that would win. I think I'll just wait.

Your NOA is just a day before mine, so I'm watching your timeline with great interest.

[gyuwono 0]

New Processing Times for NSC: July 05, 2006.

Are they serious????? I hope that's a typo.